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Boyfriend searching for massage parlours!!

106 replies

mollybbb · 05/06/2024 14:25

Need some advice, I have been with my partner for 6 years and have recently had a baby who is currently 3 months old. Have felt as though out sex life has reduced a lot since we have had our son but I have been feeling like he hasn't been bothered about sex since having him and he didn't find me attractive anymore. So I went on his phone just to be sure there wasn't anyone else. I found on his search history that he had been searching for massage parlours in our area and for prostate massages near us. I feel comepletely confused I confront him and he said he searched it as he was curious. Just want to know what other people would do and how they would feel as I am unsure. He was also watching a lot of porn with "Thai lady boys" :/

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Copperoliverbear · 21/11/2024 05:47

Tell him to leave he's weird as fuck he is also lying and a cheat if he's been for one of these massages to me that's cheating.
Also is he really gay if he wants things up his bum.

Mali133 · 21/11/2024 05:52

Check his location history on his phone from google maps. My phone tracks everywhere I go. Maybe his will too and you will know for sure then if he visited the massage parlour.

RedHelenB · 21/11/2024 07:34

shuggles · 21/11/2024 01:01

You're not attracted to other people based on categories. You're attracted to people based on how they look. If a man is attracted to someone who looks like a woman, that means they are straight.

?????

user1492757084 · 21/11/2024 07:41

Yuck.
I would find his behaviour totally off putting sexually and like to break up.
He is not considerate of you.

shuggles · 21/11/2024 20:08

@MrsTerryPratchett No that's not how it works. Smell is a much better indicator of who we find sexually attractive. Men smell like men.

And yet, we feel sexual attraction for people we see in photographs and videos. You know, people we can't actually smell.

I know some lovely butch women. I don't find them attractive because they aren't men.

That's because butch women do not look anything like men.

OliviaWould · 21/11/2024 20:15

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MrsTerryPratchett · 21/11/2024 20:29

shuggles · 21/11/2024 20:08

@MrsTerryPratchett No that's not how it works. Smell is a much better indicator of who we find sexually attractive. Men smell like men.

And yet, we feel sexual attraction for people we see in photographs and videos. You know, people we can't actually smell.

I know some lovely butch women. I don't find them attractive because they aren't men.

That's because butch women do not look anything like men.

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It's OK to be bi, BTW. I don't know why you're arguing so strenuously for bi men to be straight.

shuggles · 21/11/2024 20:48

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Looks nothing like a man.

XiCi · 22/11/2024 09:27

shuggles · 21/11/2024 01:01

You're not attracted to other people based on categories. You're attracted to people based on how they look. If a man is attracted to someone who looks like a woman, that means they are straight.

If a man is attracted to someone that looks like a woman but has a cock i.e a man, then they are gay/bi. Straight men don't fancy other men just because they look effeminate just as straight women don't fancy other women just because they look masculine.

shuggles · 22/11/2024 20:42

@XiCi If a man is attracted to someone that looks like a woman but has a cock i.e a man, then they are gay/bi.

Attraction isn't based on genitalia. This should be self-evident because obviously we feel attracted to people without having seen their genitalia.

Straight men don't fancy other men just because they look effeminate just as straight women don't fancy other women just because they look masculine.

Effeminate men don't look anything like women.
Masculine women don't look anything like men.
There are many Thai ladyboys that do look like women.

whathaveiforgotten · 23/11/2024 11:43

@shuggles

Attraction isn't based on genitalia. This should be self-evident because obviously we feel attracted to people without having seen their genitalia.

But if someone is proactively seeking out a 'Thai ladyboy' which is the example you were discussing, then they are proactively seeking out someone with a penis. I'm unsure as to how you can think a man proactively seeking out someone with feminine features who has a penis is heterosexual?

XiCi · 23/11/2024 12:11

whathaveiforgotten · 23/11/2024 11:43

@shuggles

Attraction isn't based on genitalia. This should be self-evident because obviously we feel attracted to people without having seen their genitalia.

But if someone is proactively seeking out a 'Thai ladyboy' which is the example you were discussing, then they are proactively seeking out someone with a penis. I'm unsure as to how you can think a man proactively seeking out someone with feminine features who has a penis is heterosexual?

Exactly. This man knows that ladyboys have male genitalia as he's searching for them on porn sites. shuggles arguments are just ridiculous and not sure what their motivation is

Twoshoesnewshoes · 23/11/2024 12:15

the male and female -ness of someone is not just about there genitalia! That’s such an objectifying argument! Someone’s maleness is in their smell, their pheromones, their stance, body ratios, bone structure…so much of our attraction process is completely unconscious.
if it was just on genitalia, what would that mean for people who have experienced injury or mutilation? Are they no longer viable to be attractive?

XiCi · 23/11/2024 12:53

Where has anyone said that it's only about genitalia? Love the sock puppeting though 😂

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/11/2024 15:36

XiCi · 23/11/2024 12:53

Where has anyone said that it's only about genitalia? Love the sock puppeting though 😂

Grin
SmileEachDay · 23/11/2024 15:51

shuggles · 21/11/2024 01:01

You're not attracted to other people based on categories. You're attracted to people based on how they look. If a man is attracted to someone who looks like a woman, that means they are straight.

This is bonkers. That’s not how sexual orientation works 😂

Stargazer00 · 23/11/2024 16:46

Ok so, I know 99% of MN’ers will disagree with this post but it’s just my opinion….

You only had your baby three months ago. If this was a man moaning that he wasn’t getting much sex so soon after his OH had a baby , he’d get absolutely destroyed, and this is confirmed with multiple similar posts in the last month or two. He is probably aware that it takes time for a woman’s libido to increase so I wouldn’t be taking this personally. have you actually broached this subject with him?

The porn - let’s not go into whether watching porn is or isn’t acceptable in a relationship but focus on the type of porn.

i am of the opinion that there are two very different types of ladyboy / trans porn. If it’s a ladyboy that is having sex with a man, then that to me shows gay or at least bi tendencies. If it’s a ladyboy having sex with a woman then I don’t see much difference to it being heterosexual porn. In fact, it is similar in some respects to lesbian porn with a strap on- if he was watching that then no one would accuse a man into lesbian porn being gay….or vice versa - a woman into lesbian porn would never be seen as gay or bi.

I have never heard of a massage parlour that does prostrate massages but a quick google actually shows a number of health benefits. I don’t know of any ‘sexually orientated ‘ massage parlours anywhere near me but I have had a number of massages when I feel tired and run down and they are only massages, mostly done by men. ( this also does not mean I am gay…)

also, if he wanted sexual gratification from someone else, a massage parlour is not anyone’s first choice or thought….there are many more options that would meet that need if he really wanted it.

Finally, I have ‘researched ‘ escorts and such like- I would never use one but I was genuinely watching secret diary of a call girl a few months ago ( such a good series! ) and was honestly just curious. I know it’s not often there is an honest explanation but it does happen.

However, my biggest issue would be why you snooped on his phone. This would be a near deal breaker for me and shows a complete lack of trust and in your situation it would only be because of the baby that I would contemplate staying.

SmileEachDay · 23/11/2024 16:49

Stargazer00 · 23/11/2024 16:46

Ok so, I know 99% of MN’ers will disagree with this post but it’s just my opinion….

You only had your baby three months ago. If this was a man moaning that he wasn’t getting much sex so soon after his OH had a baby , he’d get absolutely destroyed, and this is confirmed with multiple similar posts in the last month or two. He is probably aware that it takes time for a woman’s libido to increase so I wouldn’t be taking this personally. have you actually broached this subject with him?

The porn - let’s not go into whether watching porn is or isn’t acceptable in a relationship but focus on the type of porn.

i am of the opinion that there are two very different types of ladyboy / trans porn. If it’s a ladyboy that is having sex with a man, then that to me shows gay or at least bi tendencies. If it’s a ladyboy having sex with a woman then I don’t see much difference to it being heterosexual porn. In fact, it is similar in some respects to lesbian porn with a strap on- if he was watching that then no one would accuse a man into lesbian porn being gay….or vice versa - a woman into lesbian porn would never be seen as gay or bi.

I have never heard of a massage parlour that does prostrate massages but a quick google actually shows a number of health benefits. I don’t know of any ‘sexually orientated ‘ massage parlours anywhere near me but I have had a number of massages when I feel tired and run down and they are only massages, mostly done by men. ( this also does not mean I am gay…)

also, if he wanted sexual gratification from someone else, a massage parlour is not anyone’s first choice or thought….there are many more options that would meet that need if he really wanted it.

Finally, I have ‘researched ‘ escorts and such like- I would never use one but I was genuinely watching secret diary of a call girl a few months ago ( such a good series! ) and was honestly just curious. I know it’s not often there is an honest explanation but it does happen.

However, my biggest issue would be why you snooped on his phone. This would be a near deal breaker for me and shows a complete lack of trust and in your situation it would only be because of the baby that I would contemplate staying.

Oh my.

You have managed to excuse all the man’s behaviour, and the biggest issue for you - the deal breaker is that she lookedat his phone?

<face palm>

shuggles · 23/11/2024 16:58

@whathaveiforgotten But if someone is proactively seeking out a 'Thai ladyboy' which is the example you were discussing, then they are proactively seeking out someone with a penis. I'm unsure as to how you can think a man proactively seeking out someone with feminine features who has a penis is heterosexual?

Because many heterosexual men, whether or not they like to admit it, like to see penises in pornography. Hence why they can get aroused by seeing people who look like women that have penises.

One of the most common searches in porn sites is for big dicks. Who do you think is typing big dicks into the search bar? I'll give you a hint- it's not women.

shuggles · 23/11/2024 16:59

SmileEachDay · 23/11/2024 15:51

This is bonkers. That’s not how sexual orientation works 😂

What on earth are you talking about? Sexual attraction is primarily based on how people look. You decide whether or not people are attractive by looking at them.

FailureAndSuicide · 23/11/2024 17:09

Kristenhunt · 20/11/2024 18:32

Hey lovely, I’m so sorry to hear and read the above. I hope you’re doing okay!! I can completely understand where your coming from and just know that your not alone in this situation. I’m sorry to say but he would most likely be going to rub and tug massage parlour’s especially since he looked it up in the area. I have similar experience with this with my partner of 3 years ( i have 3 children to a previous relationship and current partner has no children just for context) my kids currently live in wa with their dad - their choice. So we are pretty much always together apart form work doing fifo. I had suspicions a while ago my partner may be going behind my back so I decided to share his location with me. I know a lot will disagree with this but I had to do this as I have children already and as a 34 yo woman I do not want to waste my time with someone who compulsively lies and is doing dodgy stuff behind my back. Well it turns out he went to a massage parlour a few months back after seeing his location. He was in and out within 15 mins!! I confronted him, he denied of course but I know where he was. I ended the relationship with him because I was so distraught and completely shattered. Our sex was was incredible and we were facing some issues at the time with my ex and he was under a lot of stress( that was his reason once he admitted to it) it took me a few months to eventually take him back as he fought very hard for our relationship and I wanted to give him another opportunity to show the f* up for me and our relationship which he has. I truely believe because I left and showed my standards and boundaries it broke him. Whilest I’m still working through trust issues, over time it has gotten easier. He realised that he messed up and has made so many changes the lat 6 months and hasn’t been to a rub and tug since.

It isn't easy being single but it's better than being with him. One day you'll have no choice.

Stargazer00 · 23/11/2024 17:10

SmileEachDay · 23/11/2024 16:49

Oh my.

You have managed to excuse all the man’s behaviour, and the biggest issue for you - the deal breaker is that she lookedat his phone?

<face palm>

Read the post again. I have not excused his behaviour, I am giving options as to why it might not be as bad as it looks.

’man wants sex soon after childbirth ‘ - he’s a digesting sex pest. ‘Man backs off sex soon after childbirth - he’s cheating , doesn’t fancy you or has a porn addiction. This is the MN way of thinking.

man watches feminine ( assuming it was ) ladyboy porn with a woman. Tell me, what’s the difference between this and heterosexual porn? It’s still a penis in a vagina? Only difference is they look like (normally pretty) woman and have boobs- and this as well doesn’t make it ‘gay porn’

The massage parlours is trickier to argue against, but as I have said, I have googled escorts, I have googled how long it would take to fly to the moon and I have googled many other things out of curiosity that I have no intention on doing.

The phone - you can not argue this shows a complete lack of trust and there must be underlying issues outside of the points already mentioned.

alwaysontheloo · 23/11/2024 17:13

Stargazer00 · 23/11/2024 16:46

Ok so, I know 99% of MN’ers will disagree with this post but it’s just my opinion….

You only had your baby three months ago. If this was a man moaning that he wasn’t getting much sex so soon after his OH had a baby , he’d get absolutely destroyed, and this is confirmed with multiple similar posts in the last month or two. He is probably aware that it takes time for a woman’s libido to increase so I wouldn’t be taking this personally. have you actually broached this subject with him?

The porn - let’s not go into whether watching porn is or isn’t acceptable in a relationship but focus on the type of porn.

i am of the opinion that there are two very different types of ladyboy / trans porn. If it’s a ladyboy that is having sex with a man, then that to me shows gay or at least bi tendencies. If it’s a ladyboy having sex with a woman then I don’t see much difference to it being heterosexual porn. In fact, it is similar in some respects to lesbian porn with a strap on- if he was watching that then no one would accuse a man into lesbian porn being gay….or vice versa - a woman into lesbian porn would never be seen as gay or bi.

I have never heard of a massage parlour that does prostrate massages but a quick google actually shows a number of health benefits. I don’t know of any ‘sexually orientated ‘ massage parlours anywhere near me but I have had a number of massages when I feel tired and run down and they are only massages, mostly done by men. ( this also does not mean I am gay…)

also, if he wanted sexual gratification from someone else, a massage parlour is not anyone’s first choice or thought….there are many more options that would meet that need if he really wanted it.

Finally, I have ‘researched ‘ escorts and such like- I would never use one but I was genuinely watching secret diary of a call girl a few months ago ( such a good series! ) and was honestly just curious. I know it’s not often there is an honest explanation but it does happen.

However, my biggest issue would be why you snooped on his phone. This would be a near deal breaker for me and shows a complete lack of trust and in your situation it would only be because of the baby that I would contemplate staying.

Are you for real? 😂😂😂 What drivel.

alwaysontheloo · 23/11/2024 17:15

shuggles · 23/11/2024 16:59

What on earth are you talking about? Sexual attraction is primarily based on how people look. You decide whether or not people are attractive by looking at them.

He's literally looking for Lady Boys. Men with dicks who present as woman.
Not women. Men.

Stargazer00 · 23/11/2024 17:17

And OP, if you still don’t believe him about the massage parlours, ask to see his bank statements. Find out when he last searched for them and see if there are any credit/debit card transactions or cash taken out.

i have paid £60 I think for an hours massage at a couple of different places.

oh, and another point to make clear - you do realise how contradictory responses for the lady boy porn is and visiting a massage parlour is right?

lady boy porn = gay
massage parlour / prostate massage = cheating

……