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Did something bad. Struggling with guilt and shame

176 replies

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 14:11

Was chatting to a guy online for a few months. He became a bit distant and for some reason I became obsessed even though before he became distant I had my doubts. Anyway we ended up going on a date and after he became more distant and I became more obsessed.

in the end he didn’t want to stay in touch and I did some things I’m really ashamed of. I created a fake profile so I could keep talking to him. It was pretty clear he figured it out so in a panic I tried to make him think it wasn’t me by saying some details I had found out about him from online stalking. Of course he still thought it was me.

im absolutely mortified at what I’ve done and am really struggling every day with the thought of there being someone out there who has seen me at my worst.

every thought from morning to night is about this and it’s torturing me.

OP posts:
Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 20:55

oakleaffy · 03/06/2024 20:38

This is very true.

I'd imagine OP lives in her head a lot, and fixates obsessively on people- Like a typical teenage crush.

Teenagers thankfully outgrow crushes, as they are literally built up on one's head.

At 16, I had a crush on a handsome 17 yr old from St Paul's Boys school.
He lived round the corner, and I used to walk past his house ''By accident'' hoping to see him in his bedroom window {he had a window seat}

I did go out for a lovely walk with him - Decades later, I do occasionally walk past his old house, {our Mum lives nearby still}

Someone said they had seen him a few years ago, and he was completely bald! and rather portly.

That was a shock to me, as in my imagination, he was still the gorgeous teen , like a young Jackson Browne, with floppy glossy brown hair rather than a middle aged man that he will be now. 🤔 How can that be? 🤣

OP, you are possibly suffering from

Limerance.

i Don’t tend to get crushes. I obviously have this tendency in me but I think it was brought out by the situation. It started off very romantically on his end and then he withdrew as time went on. After our date I didn’t really get a clear rejection until 2 months after. Even then it wasn’t a clear rejection. I really worked myself up into a state in that time.

OP posts:
Josette77 · 03/06/2024 21:00

Did you only go on the one date?

Also, just to check again.

Have you deleted his contact info?

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 21:03

Josette77 · 03/06/2024 21:00

Did you only go on the one date?

Also, just to check again.

Have you deleted his contact info?

Yes one date and yes deleted.

OP posts:
Worriedpanda50 · 03/06/2024 21:37

So your crimes are 'online stalking' which means basically you checked his social media or google searched him and found d out some things about him he's put out there himself? Lots of people do that. Employers often do that. I have dated people who have said they have looked to see what there is about me online. I just don't find it all that weird and i don't think the term stalking in terms of this is all that helpful.

Stalking is more the behaviours of constantly contacting someone or watching their home or movements or whatever. Stalking is where your behaviours directly impact the victim and cause distress. When you contacted him in a fake profile did you relentlessly contact him or was it once or twice? It sounds as if it was the latter and if so he was hardly the victim of a sustained stalking campaign if so. You did something that wasn't ideal, you can't take it back but you can move forward

People do less than ideal things all the time. There's a spectrum of seriousness and I would say yours is at the milder end. Unlikely to be repeated.

What purpose is your feelings of shame serving? How is it helping you? It sounds like that's running the show right now. What would happen if you let those feelings go? What would it be like to forgive yourself? Forgiveness is not letting yourself off the hook but it can be a peaceful and self compassionate acceptance. If your daughter or friend or someone who you really loved told you they had done this what would you say to them? Can you say that to yourself? If not, why not?

You're a precious human being and what makes you human is your flaws.

NegativeNelly · 03/06/2024 21:50

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crackofdoom · 03/06/2024 22:19

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 20:55

i Don’t tend to get crushes. I obviously have this tendency in me but I think it was brought out by the situation. It started off very romantically on his end and then he withdrew as time went on. After our date I didn’t really get a clear rejection until 2 months after. Even then it wasn’t a clear rejection. I really worked myself up into a state in that time.

I can't help feeling he partially brought it on himself then 🙄.

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 22:36

crackofdoom · 03/06/2024 22:19

I can't help feeling he partially brought it on himself then 🙄.

I don’t mean that at all. I’m just trying to explain why this happened this time but isn’t usual for me.

OP posts:
DadsMightFly · 03/06/2024 23:03

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 14:29

I started therapy last week but not sure I’ll be able to put it in context. I feel like a piece of trash. Can barely leave the house.

Counsellor here - I'm very sure you'll be able to put it in to context. Understanding the context, making sense of the behaviour, that's our job.

And if by any misfortune you manage to find a counsellor who can't see both your initial impulse and your consequent shame in context, accept my apologies for being wrong - and find yourself another counsellor, sharpish.

Bumcake · 03/06/2024 23:06

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Does your username oblige you to make comments like this?

“Mind baffling” indeed.

hiMartha · 03/06/2024 23:44

I mean, it’s messed up but it could have been worse. Let it go, never speak to him again and see a therapist.

hiMartha · 03/06/2024 23:45

hiMartha · 03/06/2024 23:44

I mean, it’s messed up but it could have been worse. Let it go, never speak to him again and see a therapist.

Sorry, I see you’ve started therapy. That’s great, good luck.

Ofcourseshecan · 04/06/2024 00:19

OP, please stop beating yourself up. You’ll never see him again, it hasn’t done any real harm, no one ever needs to know what you did. Just stop thinking about it and look forward to the future.

We’ve all done stupid, embarrassing things at some time. I’m certainly not going to reveal mine! As others have said, perhaps you should get some help in dismissing these intrusive thoughts from your mind.

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:36

I bet it was a massive ego boost for him.
You’ve stopped now, it’s all good.

LookHowTheyShine · 04/06/2024 00:40

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:36

I bet it was a massive ego boost for him.
You’ve stopped now, it’s all good.

That’s a terrible thing to say. Being stalked online can be quite frightening.

Josette77 · 04/06/2024 00:51

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:36

I bet it was a massive ego boost for him.
You’ve stopped now, it’s all good.

What are you talking about???

No one enjoys being stalked.

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:58

We don’t know how he really felt. Why assume the worst? 100% some guys would be flattered. Did you not see ‘Baby Reindeer’? Donny was initially bemused and flattered by the attention. In this case the OP was someone the guy initially fancied enough to go on a date with. The OP created one fake account to continue chatting. Then stopped. This is hardly prolonged stalking/harassing behaviour.

greedisunappealing · 04/06/2024 01:05

The only point of shame is to teach us not to do things, sounds like you've learned your lesson.

If you woke up tomorrow in an alternate timeline where he'd never existed would you still be ashamed?

I suspect not, so perhaps you're struggling with embarrassment and worry what's been said about you. No point in worrying about things you can't change.

You didn't hurt anyone but yourself. You can let it go.

AgentJohnson · 04/06/2024 03:33

It’s time to seek professional support. The self loathing comes from somewhere and I suspect your interaction with this man may have triggered something that predated him.

NegativeNelly · 04/06/2024 06:34

Bumcake · 03/06/2024 23:06

Does your username oblige you to make comments like this?

“Mind baffling” indeed.

What was wrong in what I said? It's the truth, it's wrong!

Thatsthebottomline · 04/06/2024 07:08

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:36

I bet it was a massive ego boost for him.
You’ve stopped now, it’s all good.

It's not though, is it ? Is it a ' massive ego boost" when men do this to women ? No.

The OP has recognised a problem and addressed it. Learn the lesson, its about treating people right.

Theweepywillow · 04/06/2024 07:13

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 00:58

We don’t know how he really felt. Why assume the worst? 100% some guys would be flattered. Did you not see ‘Baby Reindeer’? Donny was initially bemused and flattered by the attention. In this case the OP was someone the guy initially fancied enough to go on a date with. The OP created one fake account to continue chatting. Then stopped. This is hardly prolonged stalking/harassing behaviour.

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Do you say the same about women? If men do it to them? Or In your view is it ok whatever a woman does?

very odd comment.

WestminsterCrimes · 04/06/2024 07:21

OP there's no such thing as a 'good person'. Everyone makes mistakes. Some people learn from them and it gives them humility and an ability to forgive or at least understand other people when they make mistakes. Some people don't. It's people who think they are good people that are the most worrying in my view! You'll be able to digest it in time and move on.

unbelievablescenes · 04/06/2024 07:29

Don't beat yourself up for having a big heart and getting it set on someone. I got obsessed with a guy in uni and did some wild things when it went downhill, including snogging his very unattractive friend. 20 years later I still cringe a bit but mostly in a jokey way. No and again someone comes along that just hits different and we can act a little crazy. Chalk it up to experience and learn from it. I'm now an expert at controlling these emotions and can walk away with dignity intact. This guy will be a funny story you tell at parties one day. You're human, be kind to yourself x

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 04/06/2024 08:45

I don't think you're a bad person because of this, and also as you've done the right thing and stopped. Just don't do it again and find something else to focus on.

Justcoincidences · 04/06/2024 09:02

“Do you say the same about women? If men do it to them?”

No.
It’s silly to pretend that women pose the same danger to men as vice versa.