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Did something bad. Struggling with guilt and shame

176 replies

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 14:11

Was chatting to a guy online for a few months. He became a bit distant and for some reason I became obsessed even though before he became distant I had my doubts. Anyway we ended up going on a date and after he became more distant and I became more obsessed.

in the end he didn’t want to stay in touch and I did some things I’m really ashamed of. I created a fake profile so I could keep talking to him. It was pretty clear he figured it out so in a panic I tried to make him think it wasn’t me by saying some details I had found out about him from online stalking. Of course he still thought it was me.

im absolutely mortified at what I’ve done and am really struggling every day with the thought of there being someone out there who has seen me at my worst.

every thought from morning to night is about this and it’s torturing me.

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DoWeAllMakeMistakes · 03/06/2024 15:20

Hetty, it sounds like you are in mental turmoil disproportionate to what has happened. I’ve been there. It’s awful and I recognise that feeling of dwelling on negative thoughts from waking up to sleeping. Please get yourself some mental health support. A visit to your GP would be a good first step.

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:21

Ilovemyshed · 03/06/2024 15:14

OP, you made a mistake and are now giving yourself a really hard time. Sometimes it can be difficult to acknowledge that inside us can be bad as well as good. We all make mistakes and misjudgements, sometimes on an epic scale.

You are not the only one, but it is important to acknowledge that you have recognised the bad behaviour and have stopped.

You're getting a bit of unkindness on here which isn't great.

Here's what I suggest. Write a letter, setting out all your thoughts, how mortified you are and so on. DO NOT SEND IT.

Tuck it in an envelope and hide it somewhere safe for a few weeks whilst you retrench and recover. Then shred it.

Then take a big deep breath, put a smile on your face, forgive yourself and move on.

I don’t really feel people are being unkind. I think if I heard about someone else doing something like this I’d be giving them a wide berth. Sure it’d suit me for everyone to be understanding and shift some blame onto him for messing me around so much but that’s not realistic.

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Theweepywillow · 03/06/2024 15:22

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:21

I don’t really feel people are being unkind. I think if I heard about someone else doing something like this I’d be giving them a wide berth. Sure it’d suit me for everyone to be understanding and shift some blame onto him for messing me around so much but that’s not realistic.

No one is going to blame him op.

Avastmehearties · 03/06/2024 15:23

You're doing the right thing in seeking therapy and avoiding the urge to contact him to explain and apologise.

This doesn't define you, you stopped pretending to be someone else and recognised it was wrong before it got out of hand (following him physically or anything like that). That's good, you just need to work through the shame which will take time, forgive yourself and resolve to respond in a more measured way if you face rejection again (it's a part of dating).

In a milder way, for solidarity, years ago I really liked a man who faded me out after lovely one date. I sent him a couple of 'misdirected' texts to try and restart the conversation (I didn't bother trying via actual conversational means as I knew he had lost interest). I didn't send anything strange or personal but I still feel the occasional pang of shame at being undignified in the face of rejection. You're not alone in acting out of character. This too made me really question myself. Why was I finding odd ways to contact someone not interested?

I like the idea of doing things to rebuild your evidence of yourself as a decent person and put this out of your mind.

fatphalange · 03/06/2024 15:23

You're not well and really suffering you poor thing. Continue with the therapy. You need to address the cause of what you did but you also need to address forgiving yourself. You're the one who has to live in your own head and you're really beating yourself up. Let go of what this man thought of you.

justasking111 · 03/06/2024 15:24

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 14:29

I started therapy last week but not sure I’ll be able to put it in context. I feel like a piece of trash. Can barely leave the house.

Go to work, keep as busy as you can. Read books, watch TV in the evening. This will fade in time.

Errors · 03/06/2024 15:24

OP, if having low self esteem in any way caused you to behave like this then endlessly beating yourself up now is not going to fix that.
You need to forgive yourself for it. Understand what caused it and address that.

Catsaplenty · 03/06/2024 15:25

You are not a bad person. Bad people don’t feel shame and guilt. You are obviously struggling and have now transferred your ‘obsession’ with him, to punishing yourself.
Don’t believe your thoughts. Just repeat, that you made a mistake as you are feeling vulnerable but you are putting it behind you.
Therapy and a trip to the GP and tell them what you have told us.
You are in an anxiety spiral by the sounds of it. Try and eat well, lots of walking and mindfulness will help.
We all lose our way sometimes. Try to be kind to yourself.

speakball · 03/06/2024 15:28

OP it’s okay. You’re consumed with guilt so you’re obviously not psychologically warped. Be gentle with yourself. I’ve seen A LOT of stuff no one should and the stuff you’ve described doesn’t even come near it.

People who develop these sorts of obsessions have usually had a caregiver in childhood who was neglectful and abusive. You sound like you want to understand why this happened and I wonder how you’d feel about talking therapy?

Allthislovelygreen · 03/06/2024 15:30

Everyone here is going to make you feel worse, but honestly I think you can just move on from this and not give it much more thought or guilt.

You haven't done anything the police would ever get involved with unless your on a very quiet island, otherwise they'd be arresting 95% of teenage girls out there.

At most it was just weird behaviour, so just don't do it again, don't waste time feeling guilty as it won't achieve anything, and don't hold yourself up to such a high standard as needing to feel like a "good person". No one's perfect

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:31

speakball · 03/06/2024 15:28

OP it’s okay. You’re consumed with guilt so you’re obviously not psychologically warped. Be gentle with yourself. I’ve seen A LOT of stuff no one should and the stuff you’ve described doesn’t even come near it.

People who develop these sorts of obsessions have usually had a caregiver in childhood who was neglectful and abusive. You sound like you want to understand why this happened and I wonder how you’d feel about talking therapy?

I understand why it happened. The first time I just wanted to talk to him. It didn’t feel malicious at the time. Then when it was clear he suspected me I panicked and was impulsive. But that doesn’t excuse it.

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Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:32

Allthislovelygreen · 03/06/2024 15:30

Everyone here is going to make you feel worse, but honestly I think you can just move on from this and not give it much more thought or guilt.

You haven't done anything the police would ever get involved with unless your on a very quiet island, otherwise they'd be arresting 95% of teenage girls out there.

At most it was just weird behaviour, so just don't do it again, don't waste time feeling guilty as it won't achieve anything, and don't hold yourself up to such a high standard as needing to feel like a "good person". No one's perfect

It would be great to switch off the guilt but unfortunately I can’t control it.

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Comedycook · 03/06/2024 15:34

You need to see your doctor urgently and get help for your mental health. This is a wholly disproportionate response to what has happened.

Theweepywillow · 03/06/2024 15:35

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:31

I understand why it happened. The first time I just wanted to talk to him. It didn’t feel malicious at the time. Then when it was clear he suspected me I panicked and was impulsive. But that doesn’t excuse it.

Was there more than one time? It doesn’t really matter, it’s done now.

it seems maybe you liked the attention from him, were maybe a little more excited than you should habe been , hoping for something more, and when he withdrew you pretended to be someone else. So you could continue to get some of his attention.

i don’t think it’s anything to feel guilty for or shame about, more just concern about your own feelings, and what drove you.

Lamelie · 03/06/2024 15:35

Comedycook · 03/06/2024 14:24

It was a silly thing to do but we all make mistakes. Forget about it and move on.

This! I literally wouldn’t give it a second thought let alone judge someone for doing this.
You pretended to be someone else online, contacting and chatting to someone who jilted you right? I’m not missing something?

Hb7x3 · 03/06/2024 15:36

It will fade eventually op don't worry.

We've all done deranged things before lol

You'd only have to start a thread on here asking people 'what's the creepiest, most deranged thing you've ever done?' and you'd have pages full of stories a lot worse than what you've done.

There's probably threads on here or reddit already.

Marghogeth · 03/06/2024 15:38

No-one is who they are on their worst day. No-one is who they are on their best. This does not define you. Move on, learn why you did it. 'Go and sin no more.'

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:38

Lamelie · 03/06/2024 15:35

This! I literally wouldn’t give it a second thought let alone judge someone for doing this.
You pretended to be someone else online, contacting and chatting to someone who jilted you right? I’m not missing something?

Yes but then to try and throw the suspicion off me I mentioned a lot of personal info of his id found from online stalking.

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Theweepywillow · 03/06/2024 15:38

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:38

Yes but then to try and throw the suspicion off me I mentioned a lot of personal info of his id found from online stalking.

How would that throw suspicion off you?

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:39

Theweepywillow · 03/06/2024 15:38

How would that throw suspicion off you?

As I should have no way of knowing this stuff.

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Theweepywillow · 03/06/2024 15:40

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:39

As I should have no way of knowing this stuff.

But why would the made up profile person know this stuff. Were you pretending to be someone he had met or worked with or something?

LookHowTheyShine · 03/06/2024 15:41

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:39

As I should have no way of knowing this stuff.

Do you tried to make him think you were someone that knew him well?

LookHowTheyShine · 03/06/2024 15:41

So not Do

BellaDelBosco · 03/06/2024 15:41

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 14:21

I’m trying but my mind is torturing me from the moment I wake up.

Look, not to minimise but also put it in context: yes what you did was pretty mean, and stupid and, frankly, unnecessary but you not getting out of the house and berating you so much for it is not of any use - if you seek atonement go and do 10 good deeds, donate to charity, volunteer for a food bank, be kind to somebody who needs it, that kind of things. Do not revel in the toxicity.

It will be good for you to have a frank discussion this on therapy.

But most importantly, learn from this and then forgive yourself.

Hettyvery · 03/06/2024 15:41

LookHowTheyShine · 03/06/2024 15:41

Do you tried to make him think you were someone that knew him well?

Not a specific person but someone who would know him better than me.

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