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Dating at 61 - not perfect but is this my last chance?

93 replies

DustyGrapevine · 05/05/2024 05:54

I’m 61. 4 months ago, I started dating a guy after eight years of being single.

I wasn’t looking for a man. I met him in real life through a mutual activity. He was very keen and courted me very sweetly, and at first, I thought he was lovely, although I didn’t particularly find him physically attractive.

I was happy to be getting out to restaurants and bars and picnics and days out as a couple - all sorts of things that I haven’t done for years. So far so good.

The problem is the more I’ve got to know about him the less I like him. His behaviour towards me is still positive, but his life story is a real ick for me.

He was married for 30 years, and for that entire time, they lived in a property owned by his ex-wife’s parents. He also worked for his wife in her business. He didn’t save any money or acquire any property of his own during this time. Just lived for free. That’s a massive turn off for me. I’m not sure if I’m being unfair about this.

After he divorced 3 years ago, his sister got him a job and he lived for free in a property owned by his sister. That job fell through. Now he lives with his parents who recently bought him a car. He’s 58.

He has now started a job which means we’ve gone semi long distance, but when he’s in town he now assumes he’s coming to my place. I find this too much too soon. We’ve gone from 3 months of lovely dates to him arriving on a Friday night and being stuck with him all weekend. This is nice for him but my life is on hold every weekend because I feel like I have a house guest underfoot the whole time. Plus I have to rush around before he comes - cleaning and shopping. I work full time so I treasure my weekends.

He also seems to have slumped into domesticity when at mine. He’s stopped planning dates like he did in the beginning, but even when we have plans he ‘can’t be arsed’ getting changed to go out in the evening. I am beginning to feel like I’m giving him the ‘husband experience’ that he’s been used to for the last 30 years, but there’s not much in it for me.

I own my house, have a good job, a good pension. I’m 100% self made and have educated myself and built everything I have from my own hard work. This guy has nothing to his name at 58.

Am I being massively judgemental based on material things? I’m very tempted just to end it, but I’m also thinking it might be nice to have someone to grow old with. My Mum died recently and he was very supportive and kind and I felt so lucky that I’d met him and didn’t have to go through this alone.

I can’t stop ruminating on this. Do I end things or do I overlook the issues that I’m judging him for and just appreciate that he’s kind, attentive and good company? I’m mindful I may never find this again .

OP posts:
Fraaahnces · 05/05/2024 05:57

Nope. He’s also not your last chance. You’d have more chance if you “liberated” this loser and went out alone.

OligoN · 05/05/2024 05:58

Yes you should. He’s a user.

It might be worth having a conversation with him about it first though, but he’s definitely a bad bet.

tortiecat · 05/05/2024 06:05

Please don't settle, at any age, for a cocklodging type who gives you the ick Flowers

kiwiane · 05/05/2024 06:08

So he’s moved in to yours when he’s not working with no agreement early into the relationship?
I think this has just hastened the ick you have for him and done you the favour of seeing what he’s truly like.

Seapsweetsesamethingy · 05/05/2024 06:09

You are better off single than with this man. Get rid! If you want dates, try online dating. I had an absolute blast with it.

Eviebeans · 05/05/2024 06:18

If you’re worried about not having companionship as you get older you could have a lodger which would be more entertaining and less expensive
you don’t even fancy him
i would be wondering if he was attracted to me or my home, pension and other home comforts
this is a new relationship so is actually as good as it gets- if he can’t be bothered to dress to go out I would say oh well I’m off out for the evening (even if I wasn’t) I’ll give you a call in the week - making it clear that he needs to leave and go back to his place

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 05/05/2024 06:24

He’s looking for his next meal ticket/ mummy etc

Of course he laid on all the charm at first and now can’t be bothered!! I’d be very wary that he is looking for someone set up to sponge off … next thing you know he will lose his job and need “help”

Better to be single than taken advantage of

Changingplace · 05/05/2024 06:28

He sounds awful he’d give me the ick too!

He is not your last chance at all! Don't feel like you need to settle, if he’s like this now making no effort imagine what he’ll be like once he retires? What even are his retirement plans if he hasn’t got property, does he even have a proper pension? Will he expect to leech off yours?

If you want to meet someone you can make a concerted effort to do that, but don’t settle for him for the sake of it.

MrsKeats · 05/05/2024 06:28

I'm near your age and I sympathise about the shallow dating pool there is but this guy is a walking red flag.
Four months in and the relationship is already making you unhappy.
He's looking for another easy life. Don't give up yours for him.

littleburn · 05/05/2024 06:29

So basically he's spent his life mooching off others and is continuing that pattern with you. How lucky for him to find another successful, solvent woman with her own home!

Those months of him being lovely and planning dates was him on his best behaviour. Now he's in his comfort zone with a foothold in your home you're seeing the actual real him. You have a cocklodger - judge away and lean into that temptation to end things. As another poster said, better to be single than be taken advantage of.

Meadowfinch · 05/05/2024 06:30

No YANBU. He is a lazy freeloading git.

I'm roughly your age and I've found there are an astonishing number of men our age who are the same.

They've spent 30 years being 'mothered' by long suffering wives who, once the children have flown the nest, have come to their senses and sought a divorce.

The men now have a wife-shaped hole in their life. They expect someone to fill it, who will cook & clean for them. They've had to divide their equity when the wife left so they often don't have property of their own. Many seem to divorce, treat themselves to the car their wife would never allow them to buy, and then wonder why they can only afford a one bed flat that rapidly turns into a pigsty.

The rule is the same at any age. Don't stay in a relationship that leaves you feeling less happy. As this one clearly does.

Guavafish1 · 05/05/2024 06:33

Your analysis of your relationship is correct. You had a pleasant and short courtship, but that phase has finished.

Now he's pulled out the slippers and pipe, that wont change. I think the relationship has run its course and doesn't work for you.

It definitely is NOT the last chance! It's just not work on this occasion.

Olika · 05/05/2024 06:42

Oh god get rid of him. It's better to be on your own so you can meet someone who is worth it. This man is like the very opposite of worth it.

NOTANUM · 05/05/2024 06:46

Definitely not a keeper! I’d pass on this one..

PaminaMozart · 05/05/2024 06:49

You know what you need to do, so do it!!

DustyGrapevine · 05/05/2024 06:54

Thanks everyone. I really needed this. Maybe I painted him too negatively. He does have good qualities and is good company, but you're all helping me to see the main problem that's been bugging me. The freeloading past and the fear that he will be a drain in the resources I've worked hard for.

Sometimes we need to express our fears and gave them validated by other women to get that clarity we need! I don't have any friends my own age either. So I've had no one to talk to about this.

I've realised that for at least the last month I've had constant low level anxiety about him.

The other issue is, I can never get a straight story out of him. I've pieced together most of his history just by chipping away asking and re-asking questions to assemble this mosaic of information. It's not like he sat down and told me his life story openly.

I've had this niggling feeling from the start that he hasn't been completely transparent with me. Another mutual friend (gay man) also commented that he seems to be slippery about his timeline!

OP posts:
DustyGrapevine · 05/05/2024 07:02

Also, you all make so much sense. It's helping a lot. I guess my boggling fear is that I might be dismissing a perfectly good guy based on really materialistic criteria..and that makes me feel like I'm maybe really shallow?

OP posts:
RetroTotty · 05/05/2024 07:02

He's earmarked you as the proverbial 'nurse with a purse' to see to his comforts in old age.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 05/05/2024 07:09

DustyGrapevine · 05/05/2024 07:02

Also, you all make so much sense. It's helping a lot. I guess my boggling fear is that I might be dismissing a perfectly good guy based on really materialistic criteria..and that makes me feel like I'm maybe really shallow?

Not shallow … intelligent. Learning from past mistakes of yours and other women.

And you aren’t breaking up because of material things you are distancing yourself because of different lives and lifestyles.

sheoaouhra · 05/05/2024 07:14

I'm glad to hear you are not going to let me sponge off you! YOu will be better off without him, financially and emotionally, whether you find someone else in the long run, or whether you enjoy a wild single life being your own boss!

ThehillIwilldieupon · 05/05/2024 07:16

He is a cocklodger of the highest order and you are his next meal ticket in his eyes. Run!!

Persipan · 05/05/2024 07:19

There is definitely middle ground between this specific guy and being alone forever. Go explore that; this isn't working out.

YankeeDad · 05/05/2024 07:22

Two words.

“GET OUT”.

Bewareofthisonetoo · 05/05/2024 07:24

My friend has one like this -all the charm st the beginning but once he moved in was a slob and freeloader.
You could do back to ‘dating’ him since that was fun and you’d be feee to make your own plans too.

fluffiphlox · 05/05/2024 07:25

I’ve been married the best part of 40 years and even I can see this man is a sponger of the first water. Don’t settle for this parasite

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