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It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?

125 replies

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 10:44

Hi, my wife (36F) and I (37M) have been together nearly 20 years, married for 13 years. She started a new job around 6 years ago and quickly became very close to a work colleague (40F).

Our relationship has really struggled since this time and we have nearly separated many times due to her needlessly overworking most nights and her having very little interest in spending time with me in the evenings and weekends.

She has many close friends but this friendship just feels different. They’ve been away on many trips together just the 2 of them, Paris, London, Spain etc. they always stay in the same bed with they go away. (Apparently this is normal for 2 female friends?)

They have matching tattoos of every trip they go on together. In Paris they had photos taken of them together that looked romantic (gazing into each others eyes, arms around each other). For my wife’s birthday her friend sent her this photo in a heart shaped frame.

In Paris they put a love lock on the bridge with both their names on it and took photos. My wife joked when she came home that everyone thought they were a couple while they were away.

Whenever I am away, the friend sleeps over the house. I’ve questioned her about this a few times about all this and every time she is adamant that they are just friends and that I was being paranoid over nothing and gets very irritated by it.

We have 3 children together and her friend has 4 children with her husband of 15 years. Their marriage is not in a good place and apparently hasn’t been for many years. Apparently her and her husband are very rarely intimate.

Other reasons for my suspicions are that my wife has noticeably become more masculine in her actions and appearance over the last 5 years or so. She has many tattoos now and has almost a full sleeve on one arm. Her friend is also covered in tattoos and is quite masculine. (If l didn’t know she was married I would assume she was a lesbian by looking at her and her mannerisms)

Last night after we had sex we talked casually about porn and she mentioned lesbian porn and how men are turned on by it. I said I actually wasn’t turned on by it. She then said ‘me neither I would never watch it’ then went on saying how gross she found the idea of being with another woman was and kept talking about it for a few minutes. I found it strange, like she was trying too hard to convince me or herself. Like she was protesting too much. Ive known this woman for 20 years and can usually term when she is lying.

My gut has been telling me for a few years that she has more than plutonic feelings for this woman but I have no way of knowing for sure.

Just looking for opinions on whether I am just being paranoid or whether I am right to have my suspicions?

Than for reading

OP posts:
upthehills1 · 28/04/2024 12:43

ivs · 28/04/2024 12:24

Would be similar though if DH had a close MALE friend

Ok just remove the words male and female 😅 my point was it doesn’t matter which gender, a relationship this intense with anyone else is OTT

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:45

Tallisker · 28/04/2024 12:03

Why are your wife's and her friend's bra sizes mentioned?

I’m cracking up 🤣🤣

PickAChew · 28/04/2024 12:49

SheRaRa · 28/04/2024 12:31

Definitely bin sexual

That junk can't be real.

IDontHateRainbows · 28/04/2024 12:51

MrsCrumPinnett · 28/04/2024 12:07

You must have done something really terrible for Reddit to ban you. They will literally take anyone posting anything there.

Oh it's easy to get banned on reddit, just say trans women are not women and poof, you're gone

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:55

Don’t think you can say “poof”

IDontHateRainbows · 28/04/2024 13:08

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:55

Don’t think you can say “poof”

😂

mumda · 28/04/2024 13:29

This is a repeat post of something a month or two back.
Either that or there are a lot of wives getting matching tattoos with their girl pals.

ilovesooty · 28/04/2024 13:48

RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/04/2024 11:02

Fucking brilliant!!

This age and (M) / (F) shite is driving me nuts on here now.

<misses point of thread>

Yes. It's not Reddit.

LineMadeByWalking · 28/04/2024 13:52

mumda · 28/04/2024 13:29

This is a repeat post of something a month or two back.
Either that or there are a lot of wives getting matching tattoos with their girl pals.

It’s a virtual epidemic. Like those filthy bin-sexuals.

hobocock · 28/04/2024 14:05

Bin sexual is definitely a thing.
I had a boyfriend years and years ago who was obsessed with his wheelie bin. They were new in our town at the time. He bloody loved that bin.
I'm not even making this up. He talked about the damn thing all the time and even decorated it.
He got really excited when it was time to wheel it out onto the street for collection.

So yeah, she could be bin sexual.

hobocock · 28/04/2024 14:10

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:29

I’m still ferreting around for the “joke”. Don’t get it at all. What a strange man.

It was the homophobic comment which was deleted that was supposed to be a joke. So convenient to label homophobic comments after the fact as "just a joke".
The entire OP stinks of homophobia.

HornyHornersPinger · 28/04/2024 14:22

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

No, you switch your preferred sex every 2 weeks, usually having to keep an eye on which one the neighbours are doing...

PansyPolly · 28/04/2024 14:29

HornyHornersPinger · 28/04/2024 14:22

No, you switch your preferred sex every 2 weeks, usually having to keep an eye on which one the neighbours are doing...

Hahahahha

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 14:32

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:19

Obviously I meant bi sexual 🙄

OP, genuinely sorry if your thread got derailed because I can't resist commenting on a typo...
Hope you get some useful responses

SillySeal · 28/04/2024 14:46

From your OP it certainly sounds beyond the typical friendship boundaries. I've shared a bed with a friend for 1 night if there were no twin rooms available but I wouldn't make a habit of it.

The gazing into the eyes is a bit weird too and the love lock. Why do they have so many matching tattoos? I've seen friends get 1 or 2 but not several.

Do you think you would ever be able to prove it was more than friendship though if you think she would never admit it and there was actually more to this than friendship?

therealcookiemonster · 28/04/2024 16:29

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

I nearly wet myself laughing. thanks for that

FinanceLPlates · 28/04/2024 17:30

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

Sounds a bit rubbish to be fair

MumblesParty · 28/04/2024 17:54

OP there are quite a few unpleasant posters on MN, who never offer sympathetic advice to men who post. They either take the piss out of them, or tell them it’s all their fault anyway.

Your wife certainly seems to be crossing a line in my opinion, but if she keeps on denying it there’s little you can do really, unless you want to end the marriage.

Certainly for me, I wouldn’t share a bed with another woman, and I wouldn’t put a padlock on the lovers bridge.

My guess is that they are both bisexual, want to keep their lives as they are (husbands, kids etc) but also want to have a sexual relationship with each other intermittently.

OldTinHat · 28/04/2024 18:03

I holiday with a friend regularly and we always have a twin room. No way would I share a bed!

Sounds very off OP.

LadyHavelockVetinari · 28/04/2024 19:52

I'm bin sexual too, I only like having sex with men when I'm completely trashed.

OP the reason you've received these replies is that this is a forum of women. We're very used to talking to each other as women: you know, as people with rich inner lives, opinions, experiences and all that stuff that comes with being a full and complete person. As such, many of us get irked when men hop on to get "some advice from a female perspective" as you put it. We're not a monolith. We don't have A Female Perspective that we all share. We're just people with our own opinion, we're not your on tap insight into Womanhood. I think if you had posted talking to us as people and not as Generic Woman you would have had more helpful comments.

On the actual issue, this is the advice I'd give a poster who hadn't consistently used homophobic and sexist stereotypes in their post: I don't understand why you're focusing on your wife's sexuality and apparent masculinity. What should worry you is whether she is having an affair with this woman. You've given enough reasons to strongly suspect that she is. Have a real open conversation and if you're still suspicious, then leave.

HappyGoLucky96 · 28/04/2024 21:24

OP I’ve got a full sleeve of tattoos on my arm? And I like to watch a bit of lesbian porn? No jokes

ive also been with my MALE partner for 10 years with 2 small kids!

im I a lesbian? ….. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

just to be CLEAR I do love my partner and very v Happy 😊

DixonD · 29/04/2024 00:39

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:34

What’s with the cynicism? I’ve never used this forum before

A lot of female posters here don’t like men. We’re not all like that and some of us believe that men can be genuine and have feelings too!

MrsCrumPinnett · 29/04/2024 08:06

DixonD · 29/04/2024 00:39

A lot of female posters here don’t like men. We’re not all like that and some of us believe that men can be genuine and have feelings too!

Arrant nonsense. Many of us are married to or in long term relationships with good men, and know many more, like me. I’ve been accused of cynicism on this thread.

Being able to spot something dubious (for all the reasons I set out in my earlier post) isn’t cynicism, it’s a good skill for protecting oneself and others.

Isabellivi · 03/09/2024 06:53

I think this is a weird relationship for married 40 to women… it sounds like something more normal for adolescent girls . But you’ve been together 20 years and you have sex. It could be a lot worse …

Notamum12345577 · 03/09/2024 10:18

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:14

Anyways, thanks for the helpful replies. For those that can’t take a joke-Life’s too short 😊 have a lovely day

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