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It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?

125 replies

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 10:44

Hi, my wife (36F) and I (37M) have been together nearly 20 years, married for 13 years. She started a new job around 6 years ago and quickly became very close to a work colleague (40F).

Our relationship has really struggled since this time and we have nearly separated many times due to her needlessly overworking most nights and her having very little interest in spending time with me in the evenings and weekends.

She has many close friends but this friendship just feels different. They’ve been away on many trips together just the 2 of them, Paris, London, Spain etc. they always stay in the same bed with they go away. (Apparently this is normal for 2 female friends?)

They have matching tattoos of every trip they go on together. In Paris they had photos taken of them together that looked romantic (gazing into each others eyes, arms around each other). For my wife’s birthday her friend sent her this photo in a heart shaped frame.

In Paris they put a love lock on the bridge with both their names on it and took photos. My wife joked when she came home that everyone thought they were a couple while they were away.

Whenever I am away, the friend sleeps over the house. I’ve questioned her about this a few times about all this and every time she is adamant that they are just friends and that I was being paranoid over nothing and gets very irritated by it.

We have 3 children together and her friend has 4 children with her husband of 15 years. Their marriage is not in a good place and apparently hasn’t been for many years. Apparently her and her husband are very rarely intimate.

Other reasons for my suspicions are that my wife has noticeably become more masculine in her actions and appearance over the last 5 years or so. She has many tattoos now and has almost a full sleeve on one arm. Her friend is also covered in tattoos and is quite masculine. (If l didn’t know she was married I would assume she was a lesbian by looking at her and her mannerisms)

Last night after we had sex we talked casually about porn and she mentioned lesbian porn and how men are turned on by it. I said I actually wasn’t turned on by it. She then said ‘me neither I would never watch it’ then went on saying how gross she found the idea of being with another woman was and kept talking about it for a few minutes. I found it strange, like she was trying too hard to convince me or herself. Like she was protesting too much. Ive known this woman for 20 years and can usually term when she is lying.

My gut has been telling me for a few years that she has more than plutonic feelings for this woman but I have no way of knowing for sure.

Just looking for opinions on whether I am just being paranoid or whether I am right to have my suspicions?

Than for reading

OP posts:
BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:11

SummerFeverVenice · 28/04/2024 12:05

Never been my experience at all.
But then I’m not staying in places for £36 a night. Those are bunk house hostel prices imho.

£36 a night! Jeez

INeedAnotherName · 28/04/2024 12:11

sprigatito · 28/04/2024 12:08

I think I may be bin sexual Shock I definitely get aroused at the thought of a bloke who does the bins cheerfully and unprompted <<moan>>

Is there a flag? Am I special now?

😂😂😂

Do they ever do it cheerfully AND unprompted?

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:11

RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/04/2024 12:07

Aye. We're all either bitches or lesbians eh?

I'd be a bit more arsed about your predicament if you didn't stereotype women in every post.

No not at all

OP posts:
MrsCrumPinnett · 28/04/2024 12:14

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:09

No I wasn’t bannned. It just won’t let me post for some reason? Cynicism again. Do you not notice there’s a lot of that on here? 🤔

Reasons I am cynical about your post:

First time poster;
Male, posting a common male sexual fantasy as if it was a real life scenario;
Poses a question to which the answer, if asked in seriousness, is blatantly obvious to anyone;
Does so in a forum where he knows the majority of readers will be women, which many men would find titillating.

I think that’s quite justified.

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:14

Anyways, thanks for the helpful replies. For those that can’t take a joke-Life’s too short 😊 have a lovely day

OP posts:
BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:18

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:14

Anyways, thanks for the helpful replies. For those that can’t take a joke-Life’s too short 😊 have a lovely day

I missed the joke. Where was the joke??

SummerFeverVenice · 28/04/2024 12:18

Gymmum82 · 28/04/2024 12:07

Or just a premier inn and got lucky on the date

I suppose Glasgow premier inn in February could be that cheap. Definitely not Paris!

RollOnSpringDays · 28/04/2024 12:18

I’d go with your gut instinct. I don’t have any friendships or friends that I would want to spend time with on all of these levels - it’s not normal in my opinion. How you play it is difficult - if she won’t admit it you could end the relationship anyway as it’s clear she’s not emotionally invested in you on any level. Can you access her messages at all ? Know it’s frowned upon but seems to happen a lot on mumsnet and is then categotic proof of an affair. I’d say 99.5% she’s having an affair with this woman.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/04/2024 12:20

sprigatito · 28/04/2024 12:08

I think I may be bin sexual Shock I definitely get aroused at the thought of a bloke who does the bins cheerfully and unprompted <<moan>>

Is there a flag? Am I special now?

Here you go, sprigatito.

It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?
Lillygolightly · 28/04/2024 12:23

maudelovesharold · 28/04/2024 11:33

Yes we know. No-one’s getting at you. It’s just typos and clever responses can be really funny Grin

Yes all this trash talk is really bringing the tone down 😂

On a serious note OP, your wife may be bisexual or not, I don’t suppose you will necessarily ever really know unless she chooses to tell you. I think this is less about the fact that your wife may be bisexual and more about the fact that you feel this friendship is harmful to your relationship, and I think that is the point you need to focus on.

It is totally possible for friends to have totally platonic relationships where they feel very close, a kind of affinity with one another…some might liken it to being soul mates. In short it doesn’t always have to be romantic in nature or indeed sexual to be considered so close.

Either way this relationship is setting off alarm bells for you, and has been for a while. Now this could just be that these two women have found a form of escapism with each other, escaping from the drudgery of the married/mother life and just enjoy each others company immensely and being free of the stresses and strains of daily life. Or they could be romantically involved with each other and that these trips are a way for them to be together, the catch I find there though is that after all these years of being friends or possibly more is that surely they would have figured out if that want to be together by now….so if they actually wanted to be together they could just be together couldn’t they? They aren’t though…..why do you think that is?

GodlessCommie · 28/04/2024 12:24

Given my history with absolute wastemen, I fear I may be binsexual 😭

ivs · 28/04/2024 12:24

upthehills1 · 28/04/2024 11:52

Some replies here are interesting, there would be far less joke responses to a female posting something about her DH having this type of relationship with another woman.

This sounds super intense to me, certainly above a normal friendship. I sometimes share a bed with a friend if we need to but can also arrange a twin room. We also give friendship gifts which sometimes can be in heart shape. The whole 'gazing into each others eyes' is OTT though.

Would be similar though if DH had a close MALE friend

INeedAnotherName · 28/04/2024 12:25

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 12:14

Anyways, thanks for the helpful replies. For those that can’t take a joke-Life’s too short 😊 have a lovely day

You made a joke?? I must have missed it - unless it was your description of lesbians. Would that fall under "bantz, innit" type of joking?

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:29

INeedAnotherName · 28/04/2024 12:25

You made a joke?? I must have missed it - unless it was your description of lesbians. Would that fall under "bantz, innit" type of joking?

I’m still ferreting around for the “joke”. Don’t get it at all. What a strange man.

CountingCrones · 28/04/2024 12:30

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

I think it's to do with taking it out when requested

SheRaRa · 28/04/2024 12:31

Definitely bin sexual

It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?
WGACA · 28/04/2024 12:32

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

😂😂😂

Wherearemymarbles · 28/04/2024 12:33

Lilly, I’d say they weren’t together as the logistics of divorcing with 7 kids and no money
the upheaval of coming out
maybe they (or ops wife) are bi and happy with the way things are for now.

LineMadeByWalking · 28/04/2024 12:35

WGACA · 28/04/2024 12:32

😂😂😂

I identify as bin sexual. And I claim Ned Kelly as a bin sexual icon.

It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?
MyLovelyPurse · 28/04/2024 12:35

they run the risk of their children turning against them and everyone in the community judging them so I just think the stakes are too high for them to ever come clean anyway as someone welder has suggested

OP, a couple of questions:

  1. Do you live in a village in the 1950s or perhaps an Amish community?
  2. Which welder?
ManchesterBeatrice · 28/04/2024 12:35

Bin sexual is the best thing on Mumsnet today 🤣

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:37

@MyLovelyPurse Ha ha ha. Is the mate a welder? That might be a clue

MyLovelyPurse · 28/04/2024 12:39

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:37

@MyLovelyPurse Ha ha ha. Is the mate a welder? That might be a clue

Yes, possibly Rosie the Riveter

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:42

Plutonic definition: “denoting igneous rock”

BlackCat007 · 28/04/2024 12:43

@MyLovelyPurse Known as Big Rosie

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