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It’s my wife a lesbian, bin sexual or am I paranoid?

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Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 10:44

Hi, my wife (36F) and I (37M) have been together nearly 20 years, married for 13 years. She started a new job around 6 years ago and quickly became very close to a work colleague (40F).

Our relationship has really struggled since this time and we have nearly separated many times due to her needlessly overworking most nights and her having very little interest in spending time with me in the evenings and weekends.

She has many close friends but this friendship just feels different. They’ve been away on many trips together just the 2 of them, Paris, London, Spain etc. they always stay in the same bed with they go away. (Apparently this is normal for 2 female friends?)

They have matching tattoos of every trip they go on together. In Paris they had photos taken of them together that looked romantic (gazing into each others eyes, arms around each other). For my wife’s birthday her friend sent her this photo in a heart shaped frame.

In Paris they put a love lock on the bridge with both their names on it and took photos. My wife joked when she came home that everyone thought they were a couple while they were away.

Whenever I am away, the friend sleeps over the house. I’ve questioned her about this a few times about all this and every time she is adamant that they are just friends and that I was being paranoid over nothing and gets very irritated by it.

We have 3 children together and her friend has 4 children with her husband of 15 years. Their marriage is not in a good place and apparently hasn’t been for many years. Apparently her and her husband are very rarely intimate.

Other reasons for my suspicions are that my wife has noticeably become more masculine in her actions and appearance over the last 5 years or so. She has many tattoos now and has almost a full sleeve on one arm. Her friend is also covered in tattoos and is quite masculine. (If l didn’t know she was married I would assume she was a lesbian by looking at her and her mannerisms)

Last night after we had sex we talked casually about porn and she mentioned lesbian porn and how men are turned on by it. I said I actually wasn’t turned on by it. She then said ‘me neither I would never watch it’ then went on saying how gross she found the idea of being with another woman was and kept talking about it for a few minutes. I found it strange, like she was trying too hard to convince me or herself. Like she was protesting too much. Ive known this woman for 20 years and can usually term when she is lying.

My gut has been telling me for a few years that she has more than plutonic feelings for this woman but I have no way of knowing for sure.

Just looking for opinions on whether I am just being paranoid or whether I am right to have my suspicions?

Than for reading

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LineMadeByWalking · 28/04/2024 11:43

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

And it’s very, very dirty…?

BirthdayRainbow · 28/04/2024 11:43

Suggest you split as it's clear she's in love with her friend and you'd hate to stand in the way of this true love. Then see what she says.

ManchesterBeatrice · 28/04/2024 11:44

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Waitingfordoggo · 28/04/2024 11:44

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:34

What’s with the cynicism? I’ve never used this forum before

Is this because of the joking about a typo? I wouldn’t take that to heart- it’s lighthearted.

There have been quite a few helpful replies, but of course you’re welcome to go and post in a different forum if you don’t like the responses here. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:46

We have nearly split a few times over the last few years. Trouble is neither she or her friend have the financial means to support themselves. Also they run the risk of their children turning against them and everyone in the community judging them so I just think the stakes are too high for them to ever come clean anyway as someone welder has suggested

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HashtagShitShop · 28/04/2024 11:46

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Seriously? You had sympathy until then. Short hair, tattoos and "looking moody" does not mean "attracted to vaginas". It's not a short cut.

Revelatio · 28/04/2024 11:46

Looks moody?!!! I didn’t know that was a sign of lesbianism! I would have thought that they’d be permanently ecstatic as they don’t have to put up with being in a relationship with men!! 😂

SummerFeverVenice · 28/04/2024 11:48

Another option is an open marriage. She can carry on her affair, so long as you can have one too.

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:48

😂 just trying to return some of the banter I’ve received. Just a bit of fun 🤷‍♂️

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Cerialkiller · 28/04/2024 11:48

Hmm yes it does look bad, an emotional affair for sure. I would be seeking proof personally. Annoying that female relationships can be like this and plutonic sometimes. If she was doing all this with another man or if two men were doing all this I think everyone would be far more scathing of their behaviour.

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:49

No, if I found this out to be true it would be instant separation followed by divorce for me

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BirthdayRainbow · 28/04/2024 11:49

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:46

We have nearly split a few times over the last few years. Trouble is neither she or her friend have the financial means to support themselves. Also they run the risk of their children turning against them and everyone in the community judging them so I just think the stakes are too high for them to ever come clean anyway as someone welder has suggested

Not your problem, they are skint and people will be cross with them. But if you're choosing to stay with her then that's on you.

Saralouhe · 28/04/2024 11:50

Hope she's having fun! I would with such a misogynist at home.

Deipara · 28/04/2024 11:50

Trust your gut

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:50

Yes but firstly I have no proof, and secondly I couldn’t see my wife going to hostel or anything even if she was guilty. I would move out of the family home

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BonzoGates · 28/04/2024 11:51

MassiveChickenAtTheEveningDo · 28/04/2024 10:49

Bin sexual - is that when you do it every two weeks?

😂🙃 - brilliant.

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:52

Was just a joke. Sorry if I offended. But you know what I mean that some lesbians are clearly identifiable as lesbians

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upthehills1 · 28/04/2024 11:52

Some replies here are interesting, there would be far less joke responses to a female posting something about her DH having this type of relationship with another woman.

This sounds super intense to me, certainly above a normal friendship. I sometimes share a bed with a friend if we need to but can also arrange a twin room. We also give friendship gifts which sometimes can be in heart shape. The whole 'gazing into each others eyes' is OTT though.

INeedAnotherName · 28/04/2024 11:52

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😱😱😱 Oh mate....

What’s with the cynicism? I’ve never used this forum before
That's your problem. A man trying to complain about a woman's actions on a female dominated forum will never end well. Too often those men want ammunition to use against the woman, and we don't like that. HTH.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 28/04/2024 11:54

RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/04/2024 11:02

Fucking brilliant!!

This age and (M) / (F) shite is driving me nuts on here now.

<misses point of thread>

Me too. Really stands out as not a mumsnetter.

Yes it sounds way to close and intimate and I wouldn't share a bed on holidays a twin is just as cheap. I was with you until you started stereotyping lesbians.

Humanswarm · 28/04/2024 11:54

You have definitely posted this before. Word for word. Unless of course, there is another man with a wife who has matching tattoos and a love lock on a bridge with their mate?

Mikey123456 · 28/04/2024 11:54

upthehills1 · 28/04/2024 11:52

Some replies here are interesting, there would be far less joke responses to a female posting something about her DH having this type of relationship with another woman.

This sounds super intense to me, certainly above a normal friendship. I sometimes share a bed with a friend if we need to but can also arrange a twin room. We also give friendship gifts which sometimes can be in heart shape. The whole 'gazing into each others eyes' is OTT though.

Thanks I thought it was a bit insensitive too considering I was just looking for some advice from a female perspective

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BirthdayRainbow · 28/04/2024 11:55

Somewhat is the point of your post? No one on here knows if your wife is shagging her friend unless you give names and they are on here.

Do not give names.

LineMadeByWalking · 28/04/2024 11:56

upthehills1 · 28/04/2024 11:52

Some replies here are interesting, there would be far less joke responses to a female posting something about her DH having this type of relationship with another woman.

This sounds super intense to me, certainly above a normal friendship. I sometimes share a bed with a friend if we need to but can also arrange a twin room. We also give friendship gifts which sometimes can be in heart shape. The whole 'gazing into each others eyes' is OTT though.

Surely the equivalent would be her DH having this kind of relationship with another man, going away on bed-sharing weekends, getting matching tattoos, padlocking lovelocks to bridges, taking photographs of them staring passionately at one another, while the DH gradually morphs into some kind of Legible Gay Stereotype?

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