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Thoughts please - my partner came inside me without my consent

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Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 13:08

Asking for peoples thoughts here, I feel at a loss.

background is important to the main event here, so here goes…

In Dec 23 I fell pregnant, after 4.5 yrs of using the natural cycles contraception method. This was a shock as we have successfully avoided pregnancy for a long time with good tracking. After careful consideration, I terminated the pregnancy. This was for lots of reasons but mainly knowing I have a big court case coming up following a disastrous car accident my partner partly caused which led to a broken arm and spine, I have further spinal surgery to come this year, and my partner and I not feeling in much of a stable position to be having another baby just yet. My partner was drinking more and we didn’t feel very connected at all, I’d also just started a new job so I wouldn’t have got mat pay etc. I told my partner how I felt and why, and he was quiet about the whole thing even up to the point of the appts being organised, and me organising time off work for the termination.

The termination couldn’t have gone worse, my partner was out for most of it doing silly things like going to the post office, going to a piano lesson etc, and he felt that we should have made a different decision, but only properly voiced this right before and just after the tablets had been taken. That evening he put his legs out over my body and whilst I was bleeding heavily and in pain, which I felt was the height of disrespect, he then told me he was angry at what I had done.

long story short I’d said I wanted to leave over this whole experience, his response to the pregnancy, during the termination etc was all woeful. However, he offered to pay for us to go to couples therapy as an attempt to repair. We’ve been going since before Xmas and have patched things up fairly well though certain addictive behaviours around alcohol remain an issue, mostly that when he drinks he disconnects from me which makes it hard to rebuild our lost connection. We had agreed to use condoms as an additional preventative measure moving forward but this slipped slightly, only recently.

We had unprotected sex during a non fertile window on holiday and he pulled out as agreed (heat of the moment on holiday). I got a condom out the next time we had sex and he said no I will pull out again. This then led to this bank holiday weekend - which was no different, low levels of alcohol involved on his part meant that he had been distant and moody, and he was feeling tired from working on Saturday. Sunday night, we were having sex and he didn’t pull out as previously agreed.

AIBU to be pissed off that he has taken this liberty with my body after everything said and done?

I know there will be people that don’t agree with using natural contraception methods, but for us this has worked for years and only recently went wrong once. We were safe after that and had I suppose, built up the confidence to use natural methods again with good tracking etc, but to cum inside me without my consent and after treating me like shit during the termination has really got under my skin. It’s not as if everything is ok, we are still navigating this tricky period in our relationship.

If I’m being really honest, he had previously assaulted me orally when he came home drunk from a work night out. We were kissing, he went to go down on me, I said no repeatedly and he continued. We didn’t continue being intimate that night and we had a big falling out the next day.

He knows I was raped by my ex partner and this all just feels uncomfortable at this point.

We have been together 6 years and have a 4yr old.

What are peoples thoughts?

OP posts:
VisitationRights · 02/04/2024 18:46

His behaviour is abusive. I agree with a previous post stating he is trying to control you by getting you pregnant. You should not being going to therapy with an abuser. I would plan to leave.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/04/2024 18:50

It's rape. Leave the bastard.

Kitesinthesky · 02/04/2024 18:51

Why are you with him?

And why, if you must be with him and have sex with him, are you not on the pill/injection/with coil in…. Whenever you’ve had a termination, have a big surgery coming up and have problems in your marriage and an alcoholic husband.

For goodness sake. Get it together. Take the morning after pill, get some contraception that you have control of, and figure out what you want to do relative to your marriage.

Therapy and AA at least. Or leave.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/04/2024 18:57

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 14:51

@Crunchymum it was a 50/50 accident. He drove through an amber light at high speed to beat a red.
the other driver was turning right and ran a red light at high speed. They both caused the accident. But if my partner didn’t go through on Amber, it wouldn’t have happened.

no, he wasn’t over the limit. This happened 4 years ago when baby was 6mo.

I'd leave him for the dangerous driving, let alone the rape. My driving instructor told me "amber gamblers end up in ambulances". Amber doesn't mean "accelerate to beat the red", it means "stop before the white line unless you literally cannot".

He drove so recklessly that he injured the mother of his child. Was your child in the car too?

You will not be tearing your child's life apart by leaving this scrote. You will be showing your child that it's correct and justified to leave abusive bellends.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 02/04/2024 18:59

Kitesinthesky · 02/04/2024 18:51

Why are you with him?

And why, if you must be with him and have sex with him, are you not on the pill/injection/with coil in…. Whenever you’ve had a termination, have a big surgery coming up and have problems in your marriage and an alcoholic husband.

For goodness sake. Get it together. Take the morning after pill, get some contraception that you have control of, and figure out what you want to do relative to your marriage.

Therapy and AA at least. Or leave.

are you not on the pill/injection/with coil in

Click on "see all" next to the OP's initial post to see where she says that she can't take hormonal contraceptives.

Marghogeth · 02/04/2024 19:05

OP, good fathers don't treat the mothers of their children like this. Time for a change.

Thefutureisourownpath · 02/04/2024 19:11

KreedKafer · 02/04/2024 16:06

There is nothing - NOTHING - good about this man. He abuses you emotionally and sexually and he’s an addict. Run a bloody MILE from him. He has no respect for you or your body. He’s an absolute danger.

This. Is this all you are worth, disabled and in pain as he didn’t drive carefully with you in the car. Drinking, alcoholic rapist.

contact the police and report him and for the love of aged do not do counselling with abusers or rapists they can not be healed.

xyz111 · 02/04/2024 19:11

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 17:05

Wow - my personal responsibility over my
body comes with the contraceptive method we had chosen and agreed upon as consenting adults. That changed when he did something that I had specifically NOT consented to. That very thing puts my body and health and well-being at risk. When I have already been put through the mill by this man.

And yet after everything, you trusted him to actually pull out?? Madness.

PinotPony · 02/04/2024 19:20

He raped you. It's that simple.

Time to make plans to leave. He is not a good man.

Fannyfiggs · 02/04/2024 19:24

Hereyoume · 02/04/2024 14:40

Of course you are trying to have a baby.

You are having unprotected sex, which means there is a chance you could get pregnant, which means you are trying to have a baby.

Edited

That is the weirdest opinion I've ever read on someone using natural birth control.

category12 · 02/04/2024 19:53

Unfortunately you've got another bloke here who doesn't really care about your consent.

Maybe your ex was worse, but this guy still isn't good enough.

TeaGinandFags · 02/04/2024 20:06

OP, you are totally entitled to choose your method of contraception. Unfortunately, it puts him in a position to get you pregnant and he's doing his damndest to do that.

You must leave for your own safety and the safety of your child. Dangerous driving is part if his pattern of abuse. Talk to the VPU at the local police station and they will help you kick him out.

I feel that he wants you dead. RUN!

Ellie56 · 02/04/2024 20:30

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 13:19

I’ve thought about leaving so many times, I don’t know how it always comes back to the positives of him being a good dad, and providing for us all, when it’s good it’s good but when it’s bad, it’s well… like the above.

He is a disgusting horrible man and he is NOT a good dad.

Good dads don't treat the mothers of their children like shit.

Get out now. You deserve better than him. A lot better.

strawberry2017 · 02/04/2024 20:50

He's not a good dad. A good dad wouldn't do this to anyone let alone the mother of his children.

Treetertop · 02/04/2024 20:52

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 17:05

Wow - my personal responsibility over my
body comes with the contraceptive method we had chosen and agreed upon as consenting adults. That changed when he did something that I had specifically NOT consented to. That very thing puts my body and health and well-being at risk. When I have already been put through the mill by this man.

It's you that is putting your health, well being and body at risk by staying in an abusive relationship. The risk assessment and responsibility includes you, you are keeping yourself and your child in harm's way and then saying oh no, but that's not what we agreed, instead of leaving and seeing this for what it is. As if he is a reasonable, normal man who respects you.
He is dangerous emotionally and physically, he drinks, he drives in a way that could've killed you or others. You are doing the same damage to your child. Take responsibility, act, protect yourself and your son.

MumblesParty · 02/04/2024 20:53

It’s pretty obvious he wants you pregnant OP. Add to that the fact that he’s a rapist with a drink problem, I really think you’d be better off leaving him. This is a poor example to set for your child, and no way for you to live either.

Mum2jenny · 02/04/2024 20:56

No way would I stay with a partner like him. He doesn’t respect any of your choices ever. He has addiction issues. Please get out when you can as this is not a good mutual association of ppl. Basically it boils down to Run for the Hills OP

LorlieS · 02/04/2024 20:56

@Sophie0983 Not sure if you said what you do in terms of work, but are you able to put a bit away each month so you have a "leaving fund"?
I have no idea why you would stay with this man.

Mmhmmn · 02/04/2024 20:57

Thoughts: You need to kick this moronic fucker out and get some individual therapy so that you never end up in another relationship like this.

Pennyandolive · 02/04/2024 21:02

I have been on MN a king time and I have never said this. Please leave him. He is a rapist and abusive.

Bubblesdevire · 02/04/2024 21:04

My thoughts are that I’m constantly confused about why women waste years of their lives in relationships with such awful men.

Hes a drinker, you can’t trust him, he doesn’t respect you or your body, he was cruel and unsupportive when you had a termination, he is emotionally distant.

remind me again why you think this is the best you deserve?

If he’s such a great dad then he can continue to do so if you separate. He is not a good partner and you have to recognise your self worth and find someone else who does too.

Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 21:07

BloodyAdultDC · 02/04/2024 15:19

Op did not consent to this.

It IS rape. She didn't give consent for this to happen.

You'll be saying next it can't be rape because she agreed to have sex...

Dont be ridiclious. I'm simply saying men cannot always pull out on time all the time. Accidents do happen. Don't make me out to be some sort rape apologist for pointing out that accidents can happen.

Do I believe it was an accident? No. I also think he's a rapey prick. But we do not have enough to go on to prove that other than 'it seems that way' (unless op has added more to things since I last read her posts).

We can say sexual assault from the time before of course. He was told no and kept going down. But with things like ejaculated, the pull out method is never foolproof. Is every man who is too slow to pull out sometimes - a rapist?
No.

I'd still leave the bastard because he's awful either way but you're not helping op by shouting 'rape'.

Riceball · 02/04/2024 21:10

He has raped/ assaulted you because he has a penis and he ejaculated inside you without your consent. That is a total betrayal of already shaky trust.
This is separate from the contraceptive issue. You need to be responsible for your own contraception if you don’t want to get pregnant. You can never be sure if a partner feels the same as you deep down.

ittakes2 · 02/04/2024 21:11

I am sorry unfort it sounds like he is angry with you and feels its his right to punish you. I can't see how you can come back from how he has treated you. I am very sorry.

Bumblebeeinatree · 02/04/2024 21:12

Difficult, he wanted the baby you didn't, he shouldn't do what you don't want. I feel a little sad for him in a way. Pulling out is not a very successful way of contraception, you will get in the same situation again like that.

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