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Thoughts please - my partner came inside me without my consent

149 replies

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 13:08

Asking for peoples thoughts here, I feel at a loss.

background is important to the main event here, so here goes…

In Dec 23 I fell pregnant, after 4.5 yrs of using the natural cycles contraception method. This was a shock as we have successfully avoided pregnancy for a long time with good tracking. After careful consideration, I terminated the pregnancy. This was for lots of reasons but mainly knowing I have a big court case coming up following a disastrous car accident my partner partly caused which led to a broken arm and spine, I have further spinal surgery to come this year, and my partner and I not feeling in much of a stable position to be having another baby just yet. My partner was drinking more and we didn’t feel very connected at all, I’d also just started a new job so I wouldn’t have got mat pay etc. I told my partner how I felt and why, and he was quiet about the whole thing even up to the point of the appts being organised, and me organising time off work for the termination.

The termination couldn’t have gone worse, my partner was out for most of it doing silly things like going to the post office, going to a piano lesson etc, and he felt that we should have made a different decision, but only properly voiced this right before and just after the tablets had been taken. That evening he put his legs out over my body and whilst I was bleeding heavily and in pain, which I felt was the height of disrespect, he then told me he was angry at what I had done.

long story short I’d said I wanted to leave over this whole experience, his response to the pregnancy, during the termination etc was all woeful. However, he offered to pay for us to go to couples therapy as an attempt to repair. We’ve been going since before Xmas and have patched things up fairly well though certain addictive behaviours around alcohol remain an issue, mostly that when he drinks he disconnects from me which makes it hard to rebuild our lost connection. We had agreed to use condoms as an additional preventative measure moving forward but this slipped slightly, only recently.

We had unprotected sex during a non fertile window on holiday and he pulled out as agreed (heat of the moment on holiday). I got a condom out the next time we had sex and he said no I will pull out again. This then led to this bank holiday weekend - which was no different, low levels of alcohol involved on his part meant that he had been distant and moody, and he was feeling tired from working on Saturday. Sunday night, we were having sex and he didn’t pull out as previously agreed.

AIBU to be pissed off that he has taken this liberty with my body after everything said and done?

I know there will be people that don’t agree with using natural contraception methods, but for us this has worked for years and only recently went wrong once. We were safe after that and had I suppose, built up the confidence to use natural methods again with good tracking etc, but to cum inside me without my consent and after treating me like shit during the termination has really got under my skin. It’s not as if everything is ok, we are still navigating this tricky period in our relationship.

If I’m being really honest, he had previously assaulted me orally when he came home drunk from a work night out. We were kissing, he went to go down on me, I said no repeatedly and he continued. We didn’t continue being intimate that night and we had a big falling out the next day.

He knows I was raped by my ex partner and this all just feels uncomfortable at this point.

We have been together 6 years and have a 4yr old.

What are peoples thoughts?

OP posts:
Mayflower282 · 02/04/2024 13:57

Your child will watch and learn how to treat people from your interactions. Basically, your child will either turn into someone like your absolutely disgusting partner, or turn into someone like yourself that allows themselves to be treated appallingly and be abused, emotionally and sexually…is that what you want for them?

unsync · 02/04/2024 14:15

Thoughts? Why are you still with him? Leave. Now.

greasypolemonkeyman · 02/04/2024 14:33

My guava is a good dad. A great dad. Ages great dads don't orally rape the mother of their children.

Why on eat are you putting up with this absolute sad sack abusive Ahole? He's not a good man. He's not a good dad. He's alternating between throwing you parenting crumbs and raping you.

Hereyoume · 02/04/2024 14:40

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 13:43

@Hereyoume & @Soontobe60

abortion is not being used as contraception, natural family planning is which had worked for 4.5 years so far

I am not trying to have a baby

Of course you are trying to have a baby.

You are having unprotected sex, which means there is a chance you could get pregnant, which means you are trying to have a baby.

MorrisZapp · 02/04/2024 14:45

Was he over the limit when the car accident occurred?

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 14:51

@Crunchymum it was a 50/50 accident. He drove through an amber light at high speed to beat a red.
the other driver was turning right and ran a red light at high speed. They both caused the accident. But if my partner didn’t go through on Amber, it wouldn’t have happened.

no, he wasn’t over the limit. This happened 4 years ago when baby was 6mo.

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 14:59

Time to get out now. I don't know if this recent event was accidental but you cabtvtryst hum anymore. He has form for assaulting you.

He's not a good dad. He treats the mother of his children like shit. Good dad's don't do that.

Children deserve a happy, safe mother.
Get out of there.

PopQuizz · 02/04/2024 15:00

If he finished inside of you after previously agreeing to pull out that is rape.

It. Is. RAPE.

Leave him!

Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 15:04

PopQuizz · 02/04/2024 15:00

If he finished inside of you after previously agreeing to pull out that is rape.

It. Is. RAPE.

Leave him!

Not if it was accidental. Which it probably wasn't tbf though.

The prior assault 4 years ago was sexual assault though. As op told him no and he continued.

SauronsArsehole · 02/04/2024 15:09

You terminated for the right reasons for you. You’re due spinal surgery (assuming this isn’t a run of the mill, skip home the next day job) and pregnancy hormones can wreck havoc on our bodies especially loosening ligaments to allow for pregnancy and birth.

his anger at your decision to terminate for the right reasons for you is abusive given you could end up severely disabled.

his actions to try to impregnate you again is rape. Because that’s clearly what he is doing. If the pregancy is risky or it harms you (likely given your current health) you’re pretty much trapped with him.

it’s not alcohol doing this it’s him. Alcohol just amplifies cunty behaviour.

the flip flopping between good and bad is a conditioning method.

You’ll remember how it used to be and hope it goes back there especially after the time you’ve been together, sunk cost fallacy essentially, and when it does get better it diminishes how bad it really is. Until it gets bad again and you fully remember it, blaming yourself for not leaving already, that you can’t leave, that he’ll just be good again.

momager1 · 02/04/2024 15:13

That is rape. Please get out because he WILL do it again. A good man does not treat any woman like this, especially his wife and mother of his child. Only once in my marriage did I say no. We had an argument that evening , and i was still quietly seething. I had my back to him in bed and he started caressing me. I said NO. and he said sorry. Asked for a hug and did not ignore my NO. So. That is a good man, husband and father. Raise your bar. You deserve so much better.

BloodyAdultDC · 02/04/2024 15:19

Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 15:04

Not if it was accidental. Which it probably wasn't tbf though.

The prior assault 4 years ago was sexual assault though. As op told him no and he continued.

Op did not consent to this.

It IS rape. She didn't give consent for this to happen.

You'll be saying next it can't be rape because she agreed to have sex...

EllePea123 · 02/04/2024 15:23

Run, and don't look back !!! Take it from experience. It only gets worse, never better ! This is assault.

PopQuizz · 02/04/2024 15:48

Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 15:04

Not if it was accidental. Which it probably wasn't tbf though.

The prior assault 4 years ago was sexual assault though. As op told him no and he continued.

I absolutely disagree

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 15:54

You can't trust him. He is abusing you. I'd have already left by now.

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 15:56

Pinkbonbon · 02/04/2024 15:04

Not if it was accidental. Which it probably wasn't tbf though.

The prior assault 4 years ago was sexual assault though. As op told him no and he continued.

You are still making excuses for him. A good man would have worn a condom. He raped you. He came inside of you against your will. He has agency over his behaviour. So do you. You are choosing to stay with a rapist.

KreedKafer · 02/04/2024 16:06

There is nothing - NOTHING - good about this man. He abuses you emotionally and sexually and he’s an addict. Run a bloody MILE from him. He has no respect for you or your body. He’s an absolute danger.

KreedKafer · 02/04/2024 16:09

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 13:25

Why is it not appropriate for therapy @Easipeelerie ?

x

Couple’s therapy is a big no-no when one of the couple has physically, emotionally or sexually abused the other. Never, ever have therapy with an abusive partner. It just gives them more ways to control and gaslight you.

MarionMarion · 02/04/2024 16:10

I’m not sure the discussion whether it’s rape or not is helpful.

The bottom line is that the OP is leaving contraception to him (condom or pulling out) when not getting pregnant now is pretty essential to her (see the surgery!)
On the other side, she doesn’t quite trust him. He is angry for lots if different reasons (the termination, alcohol, I imagine the court case is bringing loads of emotions for him etc…). And things are not going so well in their relationship.

I think it’s a recipe for disaster tbh.
And despite the feeling she had that things were better with the counselling, I don’t think much has changed. He still doesn’t respect her and her saying No. He is still ‘disconnected’, still drinking.

@Sophie0983 maybe that’s the time now to draw a line under the bridge. You’ve tried. You agreed to counselling when you wanted to separate. It hasnt worked. History is just repeating itself in a slightly different form.
Dont accept crumbs and half hearted attempts.

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 16:14

Thank you so much @MarionMarion

i do agree with you @SauronsArsehole

its a bit like whack a mole… there’s always something but it looks slightly different so I always make excuses

he may provide and we have a good friendship in our relationship but that’s not enough

OP posts:
viques · 02/04/2024 16:17

If you can’t trust him to stick to agreements about contraceptive methods then you have to take the initiative yourself. Either no sex or you take control by using other methods like the pill, an implant or a coil.

though frankly I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who so blatantly and unapologetically abused my trust and violated my body.

Mischance · 02/04/2024 16:19

What on God's earth are you doing with this man?

Gather up your self-respect and go and find someone decent.

Sophie0983 · 02/04/2024 16:19

I cannot use hormonal contraceptives and I personally think my partner should take control & not ejaculate where it’s not wanted, as agreed

OP posts:
Unexpectedlysinglemum · 02/04/2024 16:21

SoupDragon · 02/04/2024 13:11

TBH, I think you should leave him for his other behaviour alone.

I agree. He’s probably tricked you into thinking he’s ok as he’s not ‘as’ bad (not quite) as the rapist, but he’s still a very bad sexual assaulter. You could report both of these to the police. He doesn’t seem to respect you or your body or needs or feelings. Take the morning after pill and leave him I think!

RunnersHi · 02/04/2024 16:26

He’s an abusive sex offender. Please get out and give your son a chance of growing up away from this disgusting man.