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Dh has text me from a different number.

166 replies

Sickandanxious · 15/03/2024 23:34

Please be kind. I'm sitting here feeling sick to my stomach and feeling panicky. I'm hoping that I'm mistaken and that there is an explanation for this happening.
I sent DH 2 texts one after the other with different questions. He answered the second question but not the first which I thought strange but maybe he was just busy with work.
Later he text me with a question to which I answered. A bit later just as I got home another text appeared in answer to the first question I asked.
This is what's weird. The text was from a different number!
He has recently bought new phone and changed his provider but has kept his number so how is this possible?
I didn't mention keeping my cards close to my chest MN style and hoped it would all become apparent and that it's something to do with his new phone etc.
I've had to look on his phone, the second msg he sent me isn't there so I think he may have royally fucked up and maybe he has a second sim or phone?
I know I shouldn't have looked on his phone but it's making me feel so ill.
What an I do to check? If I put the number in my phone and there's a WhatsApp attached will a photo come up and will my number then show on that phone?
I'm not at all tech savvy.
I don't think I'll sleep tonight.

OP posts:
Figgygal · 16/03/2024 09:06

Do you know what whether it's a tech issue or a 2nd phone or some other outcome this has sent you into such a Spiral its clear you don't trust him, you're trying to 2nd guess and catch him out rather than communicate with him.
Why are you staying in this relationship?

Jamesblema · 16/03/2024 09:06

Sorry haven’t read the thread but seems unlikely if he had a second phone he would save your number on it and even if he did surely it would be almost impossible to slip up and reply to your message which doesn’t exist on the second phone?

if you’re really worried then call the other number from a withheld or different number and see if anyone answers

PablosTescoBar · 16/03/2024 09:07

Sickandanxious · 15/03/2024 23:48

But we're they able to send the messages from both numbers at the same time? Plus the message he sent from the other number wasn't under my name on his phone. Plus I noticed another woman's name under 'favourites'. Mine wasn't there at all!

Yes, that can definitely happen. My daughter got a new sim a couple of weeks ago with a different provider, but kept her old number.

She sent me two messages around the same time from both numbers. I think it was something to do with them both being saved to her Apple ID, but can also just be mixed up when the switch is taking place.

Does your husband have an iPhone? He should be able to see if both numbers are saved there.

Good luck, OP. I really don’t think there’s anything untoward going on, though.

Upallnight2 · 16/03/2024 09:07

Starspangledrodeopony · 16/03/2024 08:42

This thread is populated by people with similar tech skills to the OP.

If it quacks like a duck… come on now.

I know.. the amount of times I've read "why would he put her number in his burner phone" 🙄

That's not what people are saying, a DUEL sim phone is only 1 phone!

Not saying that's definitely the case, but the fact that he asked if he could cheat doesn't make it sound good really

Secnarf · 16/03/2024 09:08

I also think it is just the new SIM

my parents changed providers in the Autumn, and my husband and I had to change at the beginning of the year.

For all 4 changes, it took about a week for the old number to port across, and for a little while afterwards, iMessages and text messages came through on different numbers. I kept getting prompts on my iPad to add both numbers to iMessaging.

Eventually the issue settled after we switched the phones off and on again. It could have been some sort of reboot that was needed, or it could have been coincidence.

If you had no other reason to be suspicious, it isn’t a worry in itself.

Youremylobster87 · 16/03/2024 09:09

This has happened to me after I got a new phone and ported my orignal number. I still get the odd person saying to me that my message/call came through from a different number and it's been months since I changed phones. Not sure the reasoning behind it but it's possible this has happened with your DH.

PablosTescoBar · 16/03/2024 09:11

Figgygal · 16/03/2024 09:06

Do you know what whether it's a tech issue or a 2nd phone or some other outcome this has sent you into such a Spiral its clear you don't trust him, you're trying to 2nd guess and catch him out rather than communicate with him.
Why are you staying in this relationship?

I agree with this, OP. I’d maybe have a think about why your first thought when this happened is that he’s up to no good rather than a tech glitch.

Is there a backstory or a reason for not trusting him? If not, it seems like quite a leap, and is obviously causing you a lot of anxiety.

determinedtomakethiswork · 16/03/2024 09:11

The thing is he asked if he could see someone else and you said no. You were going through a bad patch at the time. Now he has a woman's number in his favourites. Honestly, all the red flags are flying now.

ApoodlecalledPenny · 16/03/2024 09:11

I’ve got two favourites in my phone, one is a school mum I have messaged maybe twice, the other is an contractor I worked with once. I don’t know what I did to make them favourites, or how to unfavourite them. It seems a particularly useless feature on iPhones.

Alwayswonderedwhy · 16/03/2024 09:12

You obviously have reason not to trust him already if you feel sick to your stomach rather than just asking him.
I would just assume it's something to do with his new phone. You're massively jumping to conclusions.

ChampagneLassie · 16/03/2024 09:14

How sad to have such little trust. Why not ask him? Whilst your busy playing your card close to your chest your adding 2+2 and getting 503. You’re stressing yourself assuming all sorts. Just asks. Surely you can tell if he’s truthful?

BitterAndTwistedClub · 16/03/2024 09:15

Don’t panic. We have the exact same issue. Husband got new phone and changed to a business account. He needs to keep his old number as is self employed which adds to the stress as he contacts clients and they don’t recognise his number. His texts come from his original number or another one. I got several messages yesterday from him within the hour and from different numbers. He is exasperated trying to get provider to sort out.

Viviennemary · 16/03/2024 09:21

You sound extremely suspicious about something that might have a perfectly simple explanation. Have you reason to think he is untrustworthy.

shoppingshamed · 16/03/2024 09:27

Upallnight2 · 16/03/2024 09:07

I know.. the amount of times I've read "why would he put her number in his burner phone" 🙄

That's not what people are saying, a DUEL sim phone is only 1 phone!

Not saying that's definitely the case, but the fact that he asked if he could cheat doesn't make it sound good really

Is a DUEL SIM phone used to arrange fights for one's honour?

ruhroh · 16/03/2024 09:33

Upallnight2 · 16/03/2024 09:07

I know.. the amount of times I've read "why would he put her number in his burner phone" 🙄

That's not what people are saying, a DUEL sim phone is only 1 phone!

Not saying that's definitely the case, but the fact that he asked if he could cheat doesn't make it sound good really

My dear, it's you and @Starspangledrodeopony who don't know how tech works. The error when porting numbers over is a common one.

People are saying burner phone (and again, why would he reply to a message that doesn't exist on his burner phone?) because the message isn't in his original phone's thread. If it were a dual sim, it would still be in the thread on his original phone, so that's immediately ruled out. Message history in stored on your phone, not on your sim.

He could've just deleted it, but in the first place it's unlikely he texted her with his 2nd sim.

When you reply on a dual sim, it replies with the number you've selected as your main number for Messages in Settings – and absolutely nobody with common sense changes that on a day to day basis, not even for an affair, plus sometimes you have to restart your phone to get that setting to line up.

Most people manually adjust the sim for individual messages. On some phones, you can manually adjust it to Sim 2 for the entire message thread with a particular contact/thread (i.e. with his wife, which is hard to do accidentally).

BarbieDangerous · 16/03/2024 09:35

Couldn’t you just say, ‘DH, why did you message me from another number today?’ Surely having an answer is better than driving yourself crazy. Even if you wasn’t satisfied with the answer, you could figure out the next steps

EeesandWhizz · 16/03/2024 09:37

Alondra · 16/03/2024 06:52

OP, transitions to a new mobile provider very rarely have issues receiving texts from two different numbers. There is a transfer with a new SIM, usually taking 10 mins to 1/2 hour), for the number to be fully operational with the new provider.

I'm 63 and I've changed many providers in my life, frankly I've never heard or experienced sending a text message after a change of providers, that will be received under 2 different phone numbers.

You say that you had a rocky patch in your marriage, your DH asked you if he could see someone else and you said no.

Sometimes if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

Keep your eyes open.

Such ridiculously flawed logic! I've never crashed my car into a tree while driving, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen!!!!

And you are wrong, I've had it happen once and so has my son - his phone was still using two numbers for text messages for over 2 months when he changed from Giff Gaff to the Three network. It made conversations very hard to follow!

MorningSunshineSparkles · 16/03/2024 09:38

Is this an IPhone? Me and DP have had this exact issue, except he received a message from me on a different number not long after I changed providers but kept my same number. Caused a bit of a fallout til we realised what had happened!

QuirkyUsername · 16/03/2024 09:42

This had happened to us before. Husband got a new phone and a new SIM, ported the number across and a text came through on a different number for the same conversation. It wasn't even that recently that he'd swap, but if he used WhatsApp it was the same usual number. I know he doesn't have a burner phone, and if he did he wouldn't be stupid enough to continue a conversation to me from the phone he was hiding from me 🤣 It's a network error.

citrinetrilogy · 16/03/2024 09:43

TwylaSands · 15/03/2024 23:36

My dad said i was coming up as a different number sometimes after i changed my phone and provider but kept my number. Same happened with my daughter on whatsapp when we upgraded her phone.

Same here. I had no idea until a couple of people replied to my texts saying 'Who are you?'.

Flamingos89 · 16/03/2024 09:43

Genuinely when I changed my phone the original number use to pop up all the time for awhile

If this is your only red flag - just speak to him or call the number when he is with you

Sidebeforeself · 16/03/2024 09:44

@shoppingshamed
Is a DUEL SIM phone used to arrange fights for one's honour?

Brilliant!

willWillSmithsmith · 16/03/2024 09:44

Sickandanxious · 16/03/2024 05:04

Thank you but unfortunately he doesn't know that I have. I only checked (and I'm not proud of myself) because it all seemed odd and now I know why people snoop and others don't. 😞 I'm tying myself up in knots. He knows I'm not techy and could hide things from me though. I feel such a fool. I haven't slept.

But then surely either you know his pin or he doesn’t lock his phone. Either of those two suggests he isn’t hiding anything?

ruhroh · 16/03/2024 09:52

ruhroh · 16/03/2024 09:33

My dear, it's you and @Starspangledrodeopony who don't know how tech works. The error when porting numbers over is a common one.

People are saying burner phone (and again, why would he reply to a message that doesn't exist on his burner phone?) because the message isn't in his original phone's thread. If it were a dual sim, it would still be in the thread on his original phone, so that's immediately ruled out. Message history in stored on your phone, not on your sim.

He could've just deleted it, but in the first place it's unlikely he texted her with his 2nd sim.

When you reply on a dual sim, it replies with the number you've selected as your main number for Messages in Settings – and absolutely nobody with common sense changes that on a day to day basis, not even for an affair, plus sometimes you have to restart your phone to get that setting to line up.

Most people manually adjust the sim for individual messages. On some phones, you can manually adjust it to Sim 2 for the entire message thread with a particular contact/thread (i.e. with his wife, which is hard to do accidentally).

Edited

And also just to add, my point about the whole contact/thread was this – whether on Android or iPhone, you can't change sims midway while replying someone. You have to start a whole new conversation with that contact. It may still be later displayed under the same conversation thread, but you have to click out of your current conversation and click on a blank new message.

Alondra · 16/03/2024 10:05

EeesandWhizz · 16/03/2024 09:37

Such ridiculously flawed logic! I've never crashed my car into a tree while driving, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen!!!!

And you are wrong, I've had it happen once and so has my son - his phone was still using two numbers for text messages for over 2 months when he changed from Giff Gaff to the Three network. It made conversations very hard to follow!

I've never experienced a glitch that, when transferring a mobile number to a new provider, sends text messages from 2 different numbers not linked to previous accounts.

My answer to the OP was not only about a possible "glitch" in transferring providers. I read all her posts and looks like she doesn't trusts him much due to marital problems in the past when he asked her if he could see other women outside their marriage.

I advised her to keep her eyes open because sometimes 2+2 is really 4.