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I don't want this old friend to visit

94 replies

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:32

I have a very old friend. I've known him since my mid twenties when we worked together. He's lived on the other side of the world for about 30 years but we've kept in touch. He visits the UK every few years. At times we have had a lot of contact, usually when is having a difficult time, but in recent years not so much.

He's messaged me this week saying he's coming to the UK and wants to visit us while he's here. Problem is I really don't want to see him. The last few times we've met or talked he has been incredibly critical of me. He wants to know every intimate detail of my life and then tells me what I've done wrong. He likes to tell me what a fuck up I was in my twenties (don't think I was that bad) and laugh at me with his wife. She is very socially anxious but manages to make passive aggressive comments about my parenting. They are very difficult and stressful guests.

We were close once but whenever we are together now I just feel attacked. How do I tell him I just don't want to see them while they are here? We live far away their main UK destination so they are making a big effort and I feel a bit mean.

OP posts:
springcantcome2soon · 15/03/2024 20:34

JUST SAY NO 💕

opentoadvice88 · 15/03/2024 20:36

I would tell him how he’s made you feel in the past and say you’re not up for meeting up on his next visit. Keep the wording to how you felt, not that he said X, Y & Z. There’s no arguing or disagreeing with how you felt.

It will show you if he really cares or he enjoys putting someone down.

Changingplace · 15/03/2024 20:38

Either ignore him or just say no you’re not free, don’t back down.

Mummame222 · 15/03/2024 20:40

Eh? Just say no. Sorry that’s a really busy week, can’t make it, have a great trip though.

betterangels · 15/03/2024 20:42

"Not a good time for me. Enjoy your visit here."

babytum · 15/03/2024 20:43

He’s not too concerned about being mean you…

Be your own advocate. If it was your child dealing with a mean child what would you do? You are allowed to stand up for yourself. It’s not a requirement to make nice to people that aren’t nice to us.

ILoveSalmonSpread · 15/03/2024 20:43

Just say no. You really don't need this shit.
I'd go further and block him.

You've moved apart and you owe him nothing.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/03/2024 20:43

How long is he over for? I’d be really busy then.

Natty13 · 15/03/2024 20:45

Tell him you're having the ceilings painted/house fumigated/walls plastered/a new boiler that week, so sorry would love to host but not able to, terrible shame!

Or, you know, tell him the truth. Someone who treats you like that isn't your friend.

Sockdolager · 15/03/2024 20:46

Say exactly what you’ve said here. His own critical behaviour has understandably made you unwilling to see him. I wouldn’t go to the bother of inventing excuses.

ClareBlue · 15/03/2024 20:46

The fact you don't think the solution is just saying no to him indicates the dynamics of your relationship and it's not healthy from you side. If that's how he has made you feel then say no. You don't have to justify it to anyone. And you say you feel mean, but isn't that exactly what he is. Mean to you.

MassiveOvaryaction · 15/03/2024 20:48

Doesn't sound much like a friend!

ZebraD · 15/03/2024 20:51

Just say you already have plans at such short notice you can’t change them. Done.

SheilaFentiman · 15/03/2024 20:56

I am not sure if he has told you this week he is coming in future or is coming this week.

Either way, what a shame it is your cousin’s wedding and you aren’t around

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:59

He's given me a month long window of availability. You are all right of course but I'm finding it hard to just tell him straight. He is very persistent and will want justification.

OP posts:
Mummame222 · 15/03/2024 21:01

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:59

He's given me a month long window of availability. You are all right of course but I'm finding it hard to just tell him straight. He is very persistent and will want justification.

Just ignore him. How has someone who lives so far away got such a hold on you and why do you let him.

Who gives a shit what justification he wants. Ignore him.

SheilaFentiman · 15/03/2024 21:02

Ok.

”friend, whenever you visit, you put me down and I don’t enjoy it. So I’d rather you didn’t stay with us. If you still want to visit MyTown, let me know where you are staying and I will swing by for a drink and see how we get on together “

Sockdolager · 15/03/2024 21:04

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:59

He's given me a month long window of availability. You are all right of course but I'm finding it hard to just tell him straight. He is very persistent and will want justification.

Then don’t lie. Tell the truth, that his behaviour during his last few visits hasn’t made him pleasant company, and you don’t want to repeat it.

Changingplace · 15/03/2024 21:06

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:59

He's given me a month long window of availability. You are all right of course but I'm finding it hard to just tell him straight. He is very persistent and will want justification.

He’s no friend and lives on the other side of the world, just ignore him/block him and forget about him, you owe him nothing.

FlowerBarrow · 15/03/2024 21:07

Don’t lie, you will cringe and feel bad.
Just say I’m really sorry (if you want to say that) but we won’t be able to have you at ours this year.

Watchkeys · 15/03/2024 21:55

Just tell him you're not available. If he wants justification, tell him you're not available. If he asks why, tell him you're not available. Eventually he'll realise he's making an idiot of himself.

What's the risk in doing this?

opentoadvice88 · 15/03/2024 22:01

marshmallowdreams · 15/03/2024 20:59

He's given me a month long window of availability. You are all right of course but I'm finding it hard to just tell him straight. He is very persistent and will want justification.

But that doesn’t mean you have to give him an explanation or examples.

Tbh, if you’re not able to say this then I would make any excuse or be very vague & non committal. The slow fade.

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Stainglasses · 15/03/2024 22:04

I’d be unavailable - just too busy or you already have guests or some water right excuse.

And then, given this is how you feel about him, I’d let it drift.

But I was going to say, from reading your title, that you should go with your gut when meeting up. I saw an old friend last year and I just knew I didn’t want to meet up and gosh I wish I had listened to myself. She attacked me and was hostile.

Stainglasses · 15/03/2024 22:06

babytum · 15/03/2024 20:43

He’s not too concerned about being mean you…

Be your own advocate. If it was your child dealing with a mean child what would you do? You are allowed to stand up for yourself. It’s not a requirement to make nice to people that aren’t nice to us.

This is good advice! I think we can sometimes see where boundaries should be for other people, especially our kids, but feel guilty about it when it comes to ourselves.