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Horrible woman in Zoom group

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ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 15:25

I'm in a twice-weekly Zoom group with 6 other women. Most of them are pleasant, but one seems to hate me. She interrupts, contradicts and tries very hard to undermine me. I try to mute her, and when I do hear her say something awful, I just smooth it over. I find it triggering because of early experiences, and yesterday I was very troubled by it - I was telling a story and she just burst in loudly and interrupted me. I simply continued speaking and didn't respond to her, but I couldn't throw it off. I felt bad about it all day.
I don't want to leave the group because I don't have that many friends in the area and a lot of useful information is exchanged. Is there a way to deal with this? TIA.

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ion08 · 27/02/2024 15:30

what’s the purpose of the group? friends? hobby? book club? work?

Current affairs discussion, books we have been reading, family news, some in-person lunches or outings, sharing lore on practical matters. There's no fixed agenda.

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LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 16:06

@ShrubRose "I feel victimized by my good manners and meekness. My guess is that's what she picks up on".

So, in this instance, your good manners and acquiescence are not serving your interests. Quite the opposite.Therefore it is not appropriate to continue to deploy meek courtesy here.

You need to channel your own inner street fighter and ask her what the hell she thinks she is doing, talking to you like that? Tell her she has no right and needs to stop it.

ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 16:06

WoodBurningStov · 27/02/2024 16:01

Just be blunt

just ask her to repeat herself

'Why would you go to new York'

  • Sorry Sandra what did you say'
'Why would you go to new York'
  • that's an odd question to ask Sandra'

Then be quiet and don't respond

She wants that hit of dopamine she gets when she thinks she's hit one up on you. Hold a mirror to her behaviour. She may get defensive, that's ok, she's not on the attack then.

Another good tact is to call them out

'Why would you go to new York'
'Do you mean to that to be rude or are you genuinely interested? Happy to give you some hints and tips on where to go if you are thinking of going yourself'

This is great! Thanks!

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SameSameButDeliverance · 27/02/2024 16:07

‘Why would you go to NYC?’

’NYC is one of the most famous cities in the world. A plethora of museums, art, theatre, restaurants, culture - so much so that many people visit more than once and don’t come close to seeing it all. Why would you find it strange for someone to visit such a place?

Play her at her own game.

ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 16:11

SameSameButDeliverance · 27/02/2024 16:07

‘Why would you go to NYC?’

’NYC is one of the most famous cities in the world. A plethora of museums, art, theatre, restaurants, culture - so much so that many people visit more than once and don’t come close to seeing it all. Why would you find it strange for someone to visit such a place?

Play her at her own game.

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Excellent! Thank you!

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LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 16:12

My thought about her NYC dig was "For chrissakes Sandra, you live in bloody Kettering and still manage to find enough to keep you occupied!"

[No shade being thrown at Kettering BTW, it was just a random town that popped into my head 🙂].

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AmazingLemonDrizzle · 27/02/2024 16:16

Nct group? They can be weird?

what do you get from it? Do yo want to dedicate 2 sessions a week to this?

LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 16:17

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No it isn't. OP had already been to NYC and returned.

If the simple past tense "did" was used instead of the conditional "would", then maybe. But it wasn't.

ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 16:18

LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 16:12

My thought about her NYC dig was "For chrissakes Sandra, you live in bloody Kettering and still manage to find enough to keep you occupied!"

[No shade being thrown at Kettering BTW, it was just a random town that popped into my head 🙂].

😂👏

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fatphalange · 27/02/2024 16:20

I'd be rethinking the zooms tbh if the others are just sat there like lumps as you're being zeroed in at by this woman. I'd be telling her to fuckin pack it in! Twats

ion08 · 27/02/2024 16:21

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I understand why you are puzzled, ion08. What happened is that we met when she joined the official group. When we spun off to the personal group, I, very foolishly, as it turned out, invited her to the personal group which was forming because she seemed to have some common interests. I didn't know her well, obviously, and she is clever enough to present herself well initially.
I will never do that again!

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Orab · 27/02/2024 16:31

Is this a parish council meeting?

ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 16:33

Orab · 27/02/2024 16:31

Is this a parish council meeting?

No.

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HanaJane · 27/02/2024 16:40

If the group is making you unhappy just leave? Or are any of the other members friendlier? You mentioned meeting up without the horrible one, if you talked to some of the other members about it they may well side with you and want to start a new group without the horrible lady? Grin

Aurora2023 · 27/02/2024 16:40

Orab · 27/02/2024 16:31

Is this a parish council meeting?

YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY HERE JACKIE WEAVER

Just say that. 😂

Jensbiscotti · 27/02/2024 16:44

She sounds like a bully, and most bullies are unhappy and insecure deep down.
You see them on here all the time, acting like some misplaced crusader, waiting to pounce and humiliate a person. Don’t stand for it OP, she’s no better than you despite what she says or how she makes you feel. She’ll have skeletons in her closet, just do some digging. I bet she’s got form.

Jensbiscotti · 27/02/2024 16:47

@Aurora2023

😂

ShrubRose · 27/02/2024 16:49

Jensbiscotti · 27/02/2024 16:44

She sounds like a bully, and most bullies are unhappy and insecure deep down.
You see them on here all the time, acting like some misplaced crusader, waiting to pounce and humiliate a person. Don’t stand for it OP, she’s no better than you despite what she says or how she makes you feel. She’ll have skeletons in her closet, just do some digging. I bet she’s got form.

Many thanks. That was so supportive. 🤗

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