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Partner wants a child but constant arguments

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Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 18:14

Been with my partner for 3 years. I’m 37, he’s 35. I have 2 children from a previous marriage, he has none.
When we first met he asked if I wanted more kids as he definitely wanted them, I said I would be open to it but don’t mind either way.

For the past year, we have been arguing a lot. Lots of different issues, but our arguments seem to spiral and communication is very difficult. I find him very difficult to bring up an issue with as he immediately goes on the defensive and says ‘im always to blame’ and ‘im not good enough’. If he had an issue we generally work it out so he feels better. Very frustrating.

I feel that he is very unhappy and I’ve told him this. He is constantly complaining about the people he works with. Every day he comes home and moans about the same issues, same people etc and how they’re affecting him and making him feel. Ill also get text messages during the day of him complaining about these people. I tried to be supportive but after months of the same complaints I just find it exhausting to be honest and I did tell him the constant moaning when he comes home has to stop.

He comes home from work and games on his computer and will be on and off it the rest of the evening. He says it’s escapism because he’s stressed and I should take an interest in him playing 🙃 This has been the cause of more arguments and I’ve explained it’s not the gaming itself but rather the frequency and timing of the gaming. He’ll happily sit on it all evening after I’ve cooked dinner, done homeworks, showers, bedtimes and not even bother doing the dishes unless I ask.

He complains that he never sees his family or friends but he never makes any effort to see them, stating that he feels like he has to be here (I feel that he’s shifting the blame onto me/our relationship/my kids here) and I’ve encouraged him to go see them.

We’ve had constant arguments about housework. I’m not a clean freak by any means but I think it’s reasonable to do the hoovering, mop the floors and clean the bathroom once a week and that these tasks should be shared. I’ve generally been left to do these tasks however as he would happily sit for weeks not doing any of it. (He sees housework as doing the dishes or wiping down the kitchen surfaces which he does sometimes do). I also do most of the laundry and order the food shopping as well as working, running a little business on the side and looking after the kids. During one of our arguments we agreed who should do what jobs and that they should be done once a week; this arrangement will work for a week or two and then will slowly fall back to me because he’s stressed or just hasn’t gotten around to it. In a moment of exasperation I told him I felt like I’m mothering him and he was extremely angry and offended.

Our sex life has dwindled, due to a combination of stress, me being exhausted with everything on my shoulders, and to be honest not being as attracted to him because of our issues. I also started sertraline a few months ago.

Anyway, he really wants a child. He says it’s the only thing he can think about at the minute and keeps reminding me that I’m getting older and our chances are decreasing and he wants to have his own child to continue his legacy (?) Any pregnancy or engagement announcements with our friends/work colleagues recently results in him being upset and almost huffing with me. I’ve told him our priority should be working on our relationship first. I feel that he’s actually become resentful about the fact I have kids and have been married before (even though it was awful) and he has brought this up many times.

I don’t know really what I’m asking for on here really, thoughts or opinions on my relationship maybe? Sometimes it’s hard to see the woods for the trees and I’m constantly questioning whether I’m being unreasonable or not.

I think if it wasn’t for my kids I would have left by now but I’m so upset that I will cause them so much hurt, they adore him and would be devastated, as they’ve already went through their parents divorcing.

Thanks

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Trulyme · 31/01/2024 20:44

C00k · 31/01/2024 20:14

This is like talking to a brick wall, but trust me, as a kid whose mother brought blokes in to my home as a kid, your kids will 100% not be devastated by you dumping him. I can guarantee it. Inflicting a shit man on them is not in their best interests.
Anyway, I’m out. So depressing.

I completely agree.

I can’t stand when people use their kids as an excuse to stay in a shitty relationship.

The fact that you are even questioning whether you should have a baby with this man, proves that you put his needs above the kids.

Your kids have had to deal with a year of you 2 arguing and both being miserable.

And instead of thinking about how you can make their lives better, you are thinking about how you can keep him.

No child would be happy in this home.

They might like him as a person but I can guarantee that they don’t like your relationship with him.

Gettingbysomehow · 31/01/2024 20:47

Do you REALLY need to ask OP????
He sounds like a chronic whinger and a baby and not very nice. Do you honestly think this is a basis for a relationship. Your children must really be suffering with all of these argument, don't think they don't notice.
He just wants a baby mummy. He doesn't care about you.
He sounds highly unattractive....please dump before you make a terrible mistake.

Gettingbysomehow · 31/01/2024 20:50

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 20:09

@Sprinklerainbows thank you for understanding. It’s really upsetting that others are saying I’m not putting my kids first. They have massive hearts and would be utterly heartbroken if we split up and I just don’t know how they would ever get over it

No.....they wouldn't. You are building imaginary castles in the sky.

WandaWonder · 31/01/2024 20:51

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 20:09

@Sprinklerainbows thank you for understanding. It’s really upsetting that others are saying I’m not putting my kids first. They have massive hearts and would be utterly heartbroken if we split up and I just don’t know how they would ever get over it

What seriously?

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:03

@Trulyme where have I questioned whether I should have a baby or not with him??? And where have I said that I am thinking of how I can keep him? Are you reading my posts at all?

Why do you feel the need to be so ruthless in your comments? I’m asking for a bit of support, not a bashing. If you can’t speak to me with respect and feel the need to twist what I’m saying then please bow out of this thread. It’s not helpful.

My daughter has recently said she wants us to get married some day because she loves us together. So your ‘guarantee’ that they don’t like my relationship with him is so far off the mark.

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Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:10

My kids aren’t ‘suffering’. A lot of people are making big assumptions here.

They see no arguments - they happen when they’re at their dads. We act and speak normally to each other around the kids.

They are both really happy and content kids. They talk openly to me about their feelings and always come to me about any worries etc.

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WandaWonder · 31/01/2024 21:13

It is amazing how many parents think their own children are not affected or don't notice things in their parents/step relationships but have memories of their own parents issues growing up themsleves

no I have no idea if the op thinks this just mean in general

80s · 31/01/2024 21:17

Anyway, he really wants a child. He says it’s the only thing he can think about at the minute and keeps reminding me that I’m getting older and our chances are decreasing and he wants to have his own child to continue his legacy (?
If you don't want a child with him, or have grave reservations, then you need to let him know that clearly or it is not fair to him.

They adore him because at the beginning he was so enthusiastic about spending time with them, playing with them etc. It’s just over the past year he has slowly withdrawn from us, is the best way I can describe it.
How is he currently a positive addition to the children's lives, apart from just being in the house?

Deathbyathousandcats · 31/01/2024 21:18

What exactly do you want out of this thread?
He’s a shit partner and people are telling you what they think.

80s · 31/01/2024 21:22

we were going through a particularly difficult time and I started having panic attacks
Did you only have the panic attacks while the children were at their dad's, and pretend to be fine when they were there?

How old are your children? When mine were in their teens they started understanding and interpreting our relationship in the same way adults would. Things didn't get past them any more.

Mysa74 · 31/01/2024 21:30

I wonder if he's depressed too OP? If he's unhappy at work and his behaviour has changed so much... Maybe he thinks a baby would bring happiness and purpose back when maybe climbing out of the rut and finding a new job might turn things around for you both? Moaning Myrtle isn't very attractive at the best of times... and if nothing else there would be something else to talk about, lol.

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:43

@80s true, and I have told him that I don’t want to have a child right now, at least until our relationship is better and the issues sorted

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80s · 31/01/2024 21:45

Do you think it's likely that the relationship will improve in the next couple of years, your issues will be sorted, and you'll want to have a child with him?

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:47

@Deathbyathousandcats people commenting respectfully would be a start.

No idea why people need to be so rude to someone coming on here for a bit of support. Some of the comments have been really helpful and I keep reading them so it sinks in, that is what I want from this thread.

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Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:49

@80s They’re are 11 and 8.

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Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:51

@Mysa74 i had wondered that too and I’ve told him he needs to go and help himself. He talks/complains a lot about needing to exercise, needing to eat better, needing to see his friends and I keep telling him to go and do these things but it never happens.

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HalebiHabibti · 31/01/2024 21:54

Your kids will get over it OP. It will be a lot better him pissing off now than you deciding things are fine eventually, having a baby with him and things THEN going utterly tips up (because they will).

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 21:56

@80s i really don’t know at this point. I see little glimmers of potential, like after an argument and he’s picked up some slack and we’re getting on well, but it soon reverts back. Nothing seems to be sticking.

It was my birthday at the weekend and he got up and first think he said to me was that I need to give him more attention, not even a happy birthday. I was annoyed and to be honest my mood then ruined the rest of the day (the kids were at their dads) and then got into bed that night and he wanted to talk about how he’s worried about things and he thinks I don’t care. Wtf?

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80s · 31/01/2024 22:02

The thing is, if you wait a couple of years, thinking that maybe things will get better and you'll have a child, but then eventually realise it's not going to happen, then he could justifiably argue that you've strung him along and lowered his chances of becoming a father. You can't leave it long to make your decision.
If you're mainly with him because you don't want to upset the kids, then that doesn't bode well for your future as a couple, does it.

Holidayhell22 · 31/01/2024 22:04

Good God woman dump this idiot.
And fast.

hellsBells246 · 31/01/2024 22:17

It was my birthday at the weekend and he got up and first thing he said to me was that I need to give him more attention, not even a happy birthday. I was annoyed and to be honest my mood then ruined the rest of the day

I'm not surprised!!! What are you getting out of this relationship? What do you like about him?m
He doesn't even act like he likes you, never mind loves you.

It sounds like you'd be a million times happier without him. He doesn't do his fair share around the house, he games all the time, he's negative and tiring to be around, he's needy and selfish - a winning combination!!!! You haven't said one good thing about him.

Ffs don't stay with him for the dc. They will be SO much better off with you, happy and single.

Your p sounds like he's in cloud cuckoo land, thinking a baby will sort this. It won't.

You deserve so much more.

Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 22:22

@80s youre right, he will resent me and I already have so much resentment it’s eating me up. I think i have in a way checked out and I act quite cold towards him because of everything, which he is understandably annoyed at.

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Yonkers456 · 31/01/2024 22:22

@80s youre right, he will resent me and I already have so much resentment it’s eating me up. I think i have in a way checked out and I act quite cold towards him because of everything, which he is understandably annoyed at.

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GingerIsBest · 31/01/2024 22:27

Oh OP, this sounds awful. I can't work out from what you've written if he's just the classic perpetual victim/grass-is-always-greener type who thinks that some random thing (in this case, having a baby) will solve all his problems and doesn't have the inclination or ability to really think through what this means practically, emotionally, financially etc. Or if it's more sinister than that and he knows that once you have a baby it will become almost impossible to dislodge him.

But as you've said, how can you have a baby with a man who can't even manage to spend an evening with you or offer to do the dishes without having to be told?

It does rather sound like you've got the infamous ICK. In which case, I hate to say it, but you probably do need to end it. If he is genuinely a good person, he won't abandon your children completely. But I am afraid I do have my doubts.

What are finances like because you haven't said, but he does seem to have some cocklodger traits. And if he's moved into your house and you're meeting most of the bills, I'm afraid that's another big "Hell No" tickbox.

GingerIsBest · 31/01/2024 22:28

And to add - what a complete WANKER re your birthday. DH and I could be in the middle of a huge fight and we'd both pause things to make a fuss of the other one on their birthday.