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Husband is a liar and a CHEAT

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Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 22:13

My husband and I have been married for almost 14 years and have two daughters aged 8 and 13.

A few years ago, my DH decided he would have an argument with me and disappeared off for the weekend and I had no idea where he had gone. No previous history of doing anything like this before and I just had the most awful gut instinct that he was with another woman. I decided to check his Google account and used Google maps to track his exact location. Imagine my horror when I tracked him down to a hotel 250 miles away. I called him and asked what he was doing and he told me that he had hired an escort but had decided he couldn't go through with it after all. I was devastated however, after he returned home the following day, he told me that there had been no escort (he wanted to hurt me by saying this, as in his head he had believed I had been cheating on him ) and he had simply went down to meet some work colleagues to go out for a drink as he needed some space and wanted to let his hair down.

I was so overwhelmed by the situation that I just decided to believe him and move on. Sometimes people can become overwhelmed with family life and this was completely out of character for him.

Fast forward to last week and I had been having the same gut instinct that something was wrong. He had been incredibly protective over his phone for as long as I can remember and he literally spent his evenings glued to it after work. He works as a lorry driver and, until last July, he worked away from home Monday to Friday. This was hard however I had work and the children to keep me occupied and I've always (rightly or wrongly) done the lion's share of everything to do with the children/housework etc.

Anyway, he went to bed early as he normally does and I decided I was going to check his Google account again just to put my mind at ease as I knew something wasn't quite right.

Well, I couldn't quite have prepared myself for what I found. There was quite a lot so im just going to list the items here:

  1. Conversations between him and multiple women asking them to meet him.
  1. Sexually explicit content shared between him and other women.
  1. Evidence that he had met and slept with at least 1 of these women.
  1. Evidence of payments to Onlyfans.

5 . Adultwork account and lots of messages sent to escorts asking to meet up (even on my birthday) however no actual evidence that he met any.

  1. Conversation between him and another woman where he was getting annoyed at the fact she had slept with someone other than him!

So, I waited until a short time before he was due to get up for work as I knew I could not wait until he came home in the evening to confront him.

This was his response:

  1. He felt I had no time for him and just enjoyed the thrill of the chase between him and other females. Apparently I haven't given him many compliments in the past couple of years. (This is garbage, he just expects constant praise and compliments which is completely unreasonable.)
  1. He doesn't know why he did it other than the fact that he was lonely and bored while working away from home and his mental health hasn't been right. (He took antidepressants as a teenager but hasn't medicated all the time I've known him).
  1. He flat out denied sleeping with anyone and said there was never anything physical.
  1. He admitted he was curious about onlyfans but wouldn't show me what he viewed.
  1. He said the messages to escorts never materialised into anything and he was just wasting their time for fun.

In the past week, I've managed to contact the woman that the messages indicate he slept with and she admitted it happened around 10 times in his lorry whilst he was parked up for the evening in her hometown. She is around 12 years younger (we are late 30's) and I've since found out that she works in one of the service stations that many drivers pop into for fuel/food etc and it turns out she has quite the reputation for sleeping with lots of different drivers.

Husband has finally admitted that he slept with her just once. Said it meant nothing and that he has been struggling with his mental health the past few years and this is the reason. He also confirmed he had in fact slept with a prostitute when I had tracked him down to the hotel a few years ago.

This has all absolutely blown my mind. I am trying my best to keep it together for our two girls and have been going through the motions of getting them to school and myself to work.

As a bit of background, I work in a professional role and have at times felt that my husband has felt threatened by this simply by the comments he makes. I'm not quite sure why he would feel this way but I think he preferred it more when the children were younger and I was part time and more financially reliant on him.

I suppose what I'm looking for is people simply to tell me what they would do in this situation. Would you stay (that's the last thing I feel inclined to do) or would you cut your losses and go?

As another side note, now that I've told him our marriage has changed forever and I simply cannot look at him the same way, he told me that he intends to either throw himself off a bridge or take a copious amount of painkillers and go to sleep as he simply cannot live without me and our girls who he claims to love more than anything in this world.

This adds additional pressure as it should be me that is spiralling out of control and he should be comforting me, not placing me under this additional strain.

Sorry, one further thing that I found absolutely incredulous. He was admitted to hospital last year with a back injury and was discharged 5 days later so we could go on our family holiday. Turns out on this holiday, he had searched for one of the nursing assistants from the hospital (using Snapchat )and was messaging asking to meet, telling her how attractive she was.

Feel so sorry for our girls as I want him out after Christmas as surely things cannot ever be well again after ALL of this. The trust is gone forever.

Thank you for reading and I appreciate any responses.

OP posts:
Ladolcevita233 · 18/12/2023 17:14

But why would someone who's mentally abusing him be a good person to support him in an addiction??!!

Surely a mental abuser would be the last person you'd want supporting you through an addiction??

His little stories are getting all mixed up and contradictory.

MightyGoldBear · 18/12/2023 17:21

No one here can diagnose him of anything. No addiction is an excuse for poor behaviour(putting it lightly) and no integrity. No addiction warrants anyone staying and supporting.
No one is suggesting op stay with him.
It can be useful in understanding what's happened why and when looking for resources researching sex addiction can lead to more niche help and support.

Integrity abuse would also be a key search term to finding support and resources. As would betrayal trauma.

It really is about support and help for you op not about giving your husband a get out of jail free card.
Addiction or not it's his responsibility to seek help for himself. You owe him absolutely nothing.
He has gambled his life and lost. It's up to him to change to be a better person for himself.

Sex addiction if that's what it is. Is unlike other addictions in that the betrayal is completely personal and the most devastating to a relationship in ways other addictions are not. Obviously all addictions can cause great harm and betrayal but a different scale to this.

perfectcolourfound · 18/12/2023 17:26

Sorry I haven't read everyone's responses, but I had to comment on the 'sex addiction' thing.

It can be used as an 'excuse' for disgusting behaviour, which is very likely what your husband is doing.

But, even if it's true, why would you want to stay married to a sex addict? I wouldn't want to be married to any kind of addict.

So even if he is addicted to sex, it's hardely an excuse.

MadeForThis · 18/12/2023 17:35

You don't have to support him through addiction. Real or imagined.

GodDammitCecil · 18/12/2023 17:38

If a sex addiction is what he has, so be it, but it certainly isn't something I can or should be expected to support him with and he will need to seek his own help for that. Do I think he will? No, I think the man who is now a stranger to me will simply carry on with his seedy ways and I do not want to be part of that whatsoever.

100% @Anonymous12344321

I don’t know why grown women are coming on here and even mentioning sex addiction.

I can cast-iron guarantee he is not a sex addict - he is just your basic, garden-variety seedy, whore-y man.

But even if he was a sex addict (he’s not), so what?! Who cares? What difference does it make? It makes zero difference, so why raise it?

And don’t let anyone on here pressure you into doing anything sooner than you’re ready. If you, understandably, don’t want to blow your girls’ world up days before Christmas, then don’t.

Honestly, people who come into threads like this and berate an OP for not moving faster, come across like ghoulish, medieval spectators at the stocks, eagerly waiting for the guillotine to fall for their own entertainment.

Stop being so weird, and let the OP do things in her own time, with her own children’s best interests at heart.

IncompleteSenten · 18/12/2023 17:45

Sex addiction is absolute bollocks. Oh waa waaa poor me I just can't stop myself plunging my dick into lots of women. It's an addiction
Like cigs. Or heroin. Poor me. I just can't help myself. I must have my fix of the sex.

I try to fight it, I really do. It's not my fault. I'm a victim. I tried to go cold turkey but got escorted out of Iceland and they wouldn't even give me my trolley token back. 🎻🎻🎻

throwawayimplantchat · 18/12/2023 18:00

Ladolcevita233 · 18/12/2023 17:08

My husband said to me that if he was sufferring any other type of addiciton i.e. drug/alcohol abuse then most wives would be willing to support that so why can't I do this for him for his sex addiction.

Ask him if he'd support you through any addiction including sex addiction .... If he discovered you're a "sex addict" by finding out you've ordered a male escort and fucked him (after engineering an argument to leave home due to), fucked the local man whore at somewhere you stayed for work, in your vehicle , went looking for hookups on apps and sites and had them with various men; all while hiding it from him, shagging him, coming back to your family home etc.

Edited

Absolutely this.

As if he would stay with you if you had done even a tenth of the things he's done!

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 18/12/2023 18:21

If you get sex addiction is he standing by you?

soonbespringagain · 18/12/2023 18:29

I think I might have been the first person to mention sex addiction but just to clarify, I was definitely not suggesting that he was 'sick' and you needed to support him - I guess I mentioned it to point that his problems may be even bigger than you think they are which is all the more reason to cut loose.

I'm glad you've now got a plan in place and you might be surprised at how resilient your girls could be. Kids definitely sometimes surprise us!

I wish you well and I hope you're soon able to start a new life free of all this stress!

porridgeisbae · 18/12/2023 18:40

I don't know if what he's done is enough for 'sex addiction.' Ok he's done quite a bit but I know people who are so obsessed with sex they're upto all sorts every day, or it effects their work etc.

Idontknow010101 · 18/12/2023 19:32

Op I just want to send my support. What a disgusting piece of shit this man is. How dare he try and blame you and excuse himself - he just gets worse and worse. You sound as though you are in shock which is understandable (the numbness) and in survival mode. You also sound incredibly astute, a fabulous and loving mother and a woman with her instincts spit on. Your girls are lucky to have you as their mum.

Idontknow010101 · 18/12/2023 19:36

spot not spit 🙄

HowAmYa · 18/12/2023 20:08

He has two daughters. And THIS is how he treats women.
As slaves.
As commodity.
As toys

That is what women are to this man. A man with TWO DAUGHTERS AND A WIFE.

The three of your deserve SO SO SO much more than this. Please leave this cretinous being. Don't allow yourself to be at the mercy of a person like this. Don't allow your daughters to grow up thinking this is okay to put up with.

You've got this.x

Didsomeonesaydogs · 19/12/2023 12:10

@Anonymous12344321 there’s so much wisdom in those comments that I won’t repeat, but when my own bomb drop day happened it took 3 weeks before I became emotional about it.

I was just on autopilot until that point. Then, all of a sudden, I was on a roller coaster ride of swinging between wanting to kill him with my bare hands, being incredibly sad and tearful in a crumpled mess sobbing on the floor, and feeling totally kickass - often all within the space of 20mins. Rinse and repeat.

Get as much practical stuff done as you can whilst you’re still in shock because once that wears off it’s a wild ride.

Wishing you and your daughters strength. You all deserve better than this awful manipulative excuse of a man.💐

Ladolcevita233 · 19/12/2023 12:32

he has just shown his true colours once again by stating that wives are expected to support and stay with their husbands if they had any type of substance misuse or addiction

Yes, another facet of his entitlement & chauvinism. Women are there for him to use, exploit and lean on. He's entitled to what he wants from them, even if it's unreasonable, they're support humans.

Anyway no-one is ever obliged to stay with someone with an addiction when the addiction, as is always the case, is causing them damage (and their loved ones/dependants). And as someone upthread rightly highlighted, sex "addiction" is a uniquely emotionally painful, damaging, potentially health damaging etc. thing; it's intimacy that's betrayed as well as trust. As well as the financial abuse etc etc.

The fact is partners and kids and family members of addicts are abused, whether the "addict" intends to abuse them or not.

MumOfOneAwesomeHuman · 19/12/2023 12:42

I would have screenshot everything and packed his bags while he was sleeping then kicked him out the second he woke up. He only loves one person and that's himself. Men like this have no respect for women full stop. They defo shouldn't be raising daughters. The suicide threats are pure manipulation. Your girls deserve better and so do you. Get him out now and start afresh.

I'm sorry you're experiencing this but you need to be strong for your girls and get rid.

applebee33 · 19/12/2023 14:36

I'd be done with him. He is a creep and won't ever be happy with you , and with his job type he has ample chances to cheat , please get yourself checked and I hope you find someone who loves you like you deserve. It's an awful shock I've been there and something inside you changes forever, but it won't always hurt this much

BritneyPumpkin · 27/12/2023 14:08

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stomachamaleon · 27/12/2023 14:29

@BritneyPumpkin that's hilarious...
Welcome OP's husband...

porridgeisbae · 27/12/2023 14:32

@BritneyPumpkin Nice try. Should try harder.

whatsitcalledwhen · 27/12/2023 14:43

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Yeah he had no choice but to shag other women in lorries and have sex with prostitutes, the poor lamb. Bless his little heart.

Type2whattodo · 27/12/2023 15:48

How was Çhristmas OP and how are you holding up?

StaunchMomma · 27/12/2023 17:25

I'm afraid this is one of those 100% LTB moments, OP.

He cheats but it's your fault because you don't compliment him enough and when you suggest ending the relationship he all of a sudden can't live without you and threatens to top himself?

Could he be a bigger cliché?!!

It's not your fault. You can never trust him again. He won't kill himself. We all know it, you just need to wake up to the fact that he's a manipulative bastard who knows how to get round you.

Get him gone, OP.

viixta · 28/12/2023 03:48

I'm so sorry to hear what you have been going through. First, understand that this is a form of emotional abuse: your partner is manipulating you by playing on your feelings of love and fear for them. When your partner threatens to kill themselves when things don’t go their way, they’re not showing you love – they’re likely trying to control your actions.

Ladyj84 · 28/12/2023 03:54

Dont try blaming the other women what they do is there business and none of yours. What should be yours is your husband and your already making excuses as to why he shouldn't of supposedly feel certain ways. Get over it he is a cheat has been for years, get some respect and get rid