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Husband is a liar and a CHEAT

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Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 22:13

My husband and I have been married for almost 14 years and have two daughters aged 8 and 13.

A few years ago, my DH decided he would have an argument with me and disappeared off for the weekend and I had no idea where he had gone. No previous history of doing anything like this before and I just had the most awful gut instinct that he was with another woman. I decided to check his Google account and used Google maps to track his exact location. Imagine my horror when I tracked him down to a hotel 250 miles away. I called him and asked what he was doing and he told me that he had hired an escort but had decided he couldn't go through with it after all. I was devastated however, after he returned home the following day, he told me that there had been no escort (he wanted to hurt me by saying this, as in his head he had believed I had been cheating on him ) and he had simply went down to meet some work colleagues to go out for a drink as he needed some space and wanted to let his hair down.

I was so overwhelmed by the situation that I just decided to believe him and move on. Sometimes people can become overwhelmed with family life and this was completely out of character for him.

Fast forward to last week and I had been having the same gut instinct that something was wrong. He had been incredibly protective over his phone for as long as I can remember and he literally spent his evenings glued to it after work. He works as a lorry driver and, until last July, he worked away from home Monday to Friday. This was hard however I had work and the children to keep me occupied and I've always (rightly or wrongly) done the lion's share of everything to do with the children/housework etc.

Anyway, he went to bed early as he normally does and I decided I was going to check his Google account again just to put my mind at ease as I knew something wasn't quite right.

Well, I couldn't quite have prepared myself for what I found. There was quite a lot so im just going to list the items here:

  1. Conversations between him and multiple women asking them to meet him.
  1. Sexually explicit content shared between him and other women.
  1. Evidence that he had met and slept with at least 1 of these women.
  1. Evidence of payments to Onlyfans.

5 . Adultwork account and lots of messages sent to escorts asking to meet up (even on my birthday) however no actual evidence that he met any.

  1. Conversation between him and another woman where he was getting annoyed at the fact she had slept with someone other than him!

So, I waited until a short time before he was due to get up for work as I knew I could not wait until he came home in the evening to confront him.

This was his response:

  1. He felt I had no time for him and just enjoyed the thrill of the chase between him and other females. Apparently I haven't given him many compliments in the past couple of years. (This is garbage, he just expects constant praise and compliments which is completely unreasonable.)
  1. He doesn't know why he did it other than the fact that he was lonely and bored while working away from home and his mental health hasn't been right. (He took antidepressants as a teenager but hasn't medicated all the time I've known him).
  1. He flat out denied sleeping with anyone and said there was never anything physical.
  1. He admitted he was curious about onlyfans but wouldn't show me what he viewed.
  1. He said the messages to escorts never materialised into anything and he was just wasting their time for fun.

In the past week, I've managed to contact the woman that the messages indicate he slept with and she admitted it happened around 10 times in his lorry whilst he was parked up for the evening in her hometown. She is around 12 years younger (we are late 30's) and I've since found out that she works in one of the service stations that many drivers pop into for fuel/food etc and it turns out she has quite the reputation for sleeping with lots of different drivers.

Husband has finally admitted that he slept with her just once. Said it meant nothing and that he has been struggling with his mental health the past few years and this is the reason. He also confirmed he had in fact slept with a prostitute when I had tracked him down to the hotel a few years ago.

This has all absolutely blown my mind. I am trying my best to keep it together for our two girls and have been going through the motions of getting them to school and myself to work.

As a bit of background, I work in a professional role and have at times felt that my husband has felt threatened by this simply by the comments he makes. I'm not quite sure why he would feel this way but I think he preferred it more when the children were younger and I was part time and more financially reliant on him.

I suppose what I'm looking for is people simply to tell me what they would do in this situation. Would you stay (that's the last thing I feel inclined to do) or would you cut your losses and go?

As another side note, now that I've told him our marriage has changed forever and I simply cannot look at him the same way, he told me that he intends to either throw himself off a bridge or take a copious amount of painkillers and go to sleep as he simply cannot live without me and our girls who he claims to love more than anything in this world.

This adds additional pressure as it should be me that is spiralling out of control and he should be comforting me, not placing me under this additional strain.

Sorry, one further thing that I found absolutely incredulous. He was admitted to hospital last year with a back injury and was discharged 5 days later so we could go on our family holiday. Turns out on this holiday, he had searched for one of the nursing assistants from the hospital (using Snapchat )and was messaging asking to meet, telling her how attractive she was.

Feel so sorry for our girls as I want him out after Christmas as surely things cannot ever be well again after ALL of this. The trust is gone forever.

Thank you for reading and I appreciate any responses.

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Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 23:04

@AuntMarch

He comes home every night now (with occasional overnight) instead of working away however he generally works long hours so isn't home until around 7pm each evening. Girls are 8 and 13.

Apparently I've been mentally abusing him. By mentally abusing him he means that I ask him to do the occasional chore around the house or become a little annoyed when he chooses to spend 3 hours polishing his car instead of taking youngest out somewhere for a few hours.

I've realised after all of these sleazy discoveries that he actually doesn't bring much to the table in our relationship.

It's just difficult when your life is turned upside down like this so spectacularly.

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SittingOnTheChair · 17/12/2023 23:05

Wait till after Christmas and then tell him where to go. What an absolute disgusting human being.

Get him out of your life.

PARunnerGirl · 17/12/2023 23:06

Unfortunately it will be way worse than he has admitted to. Firstly it’s nothing. Then just messages. Then just meeting up but not sex. Then it’s just one girl one time. Then it’s one girl and one prostitute just one time… he drip feeds to see how much he can tell you without you chucking him out. And when he panics he’s said to much he starts all the suicide chat.

Disgusting manipulator that you need to leave as soon as possible. The first step is just getting him OUT. Things will follow step by step after that.

Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 23:08

@TwoMoreBoxesJayne I have told only one close friend at the moment because I want to keep it to myself until after Christmas as I'd hate for my older daughter to find out from anyone so it's all about protecting them at this moment.

As a side note, I don't have half as many friends as I did before the marriage as my husband has disliked each and everyone of them and made it difficult for me to maintain friendships at times.

I have very supportive parents so I know that I will have their full support too.

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DelphiniumBlue · 17/12/2023 23:09

Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 22:52

Thank you for this.

I feel like I almost could have got over a couple of random messages to a girl as a one-off but this is all so much more than that.

Thank you for mentioning these websites, I'll certainly have a look.

I'd love for him to leave tomorrow but he says he has nowhere to go and if I make him go he will take his pills and I won't see him ever again. I desperately dont want that for the girls, their father to have committed suicide, it's bound to have a lasting impact on them and their future.

It's bad enough thinking about my husband touching another woman in the way he has been and now in addition to this I feel constantly anxious about the threats of suicide.

Thank you everyone for your support, I didn't expect so many replies so quickly.

It's such a relief to know that everyone feels the same as me and they would also end the marriage under these circumstances.

He didn't seem to have a problem finding hotels previously, he can book into a hotel again, short term, while he sorts out accommodation.
He must have spent thousands over the last few years on his scummy little hobby, sounds like he can afford to pay for for somewhere else to live.
How sickening that he's now now trying to manipulate you. Obviously you would kick him out once you found out about this, he's well aware of that and chose to carry on anyway. He doesn't care about you or the children or he wouldn't have risked ending your marriage like this. He can't possibly expect you to stay married to him.

ItsMyPartyParty · 17/12/2023 23:10

He won’t hurt himself. This is manipulation 101, I’ve been there. If he makes the threat again that he’s going to do it imminently, call 999.

I totally get why you’re putting it off until after Christmas. But don’t put it off longer than that. You and your girls can live without him there, you know that. They will be better off in the long run if you divorce him.

Avatartar · 17/12/2023 23:11

how awful to discover this is what you married rather than the man he showed to you. STI test needed, tell him you are splitting up but for the sake of the kids he can stay until the new year then needs to move out. Also tell him he’s selfish if he’s thinking of killing himself because he will rob the DCs of their father. Be very clear that you view his decisions and actions as his and not yours and that you will not be taking any ownership or responsibility for what he does - it’s all on him

SusanKennedyshouldLTB · 17/12/2023 23:11

He isnt going to kill himself. He is a selfish arsehole only interested in his own pleasure. He blames you for his actions. Why would he kill himself?

Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 23:12

@PinotPony I'm not entirely sure what the legal stance is but I'm sure he still has homerights as we are both on the title deeds.

If I went ahead and changed the locks I'm not quite sure how that would work. He'd probably just call the police for access.

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Redruby2020 · 17/12/2023 23:16

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 17/12/2023 22:16

I’d be done.

This he told me that he intends to either throw himself off a bridge or take a copious amount of painkillers and go to sleep as he simply cannot live without me and our girls who he claims to love more than anything in this world. is right out the manipulators handbook. If he threatens that call 999 and tell them what he’s threatened.

Its pure manipulation

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WhistPie · 17/12/2023 23:19

Offer to drive him to the bridge

Ellie56 · 17/12/2023 23:25

What a vile piece of shit he is. You deserve so much better.

GodDammitCecil · 17/12/2023 23:26

Anonymous12344321 · 17/12/2023 23:04

@AuntMarch

He comes home every night now (with occasional overnight) instead of working away however he generally works long hours so isn't home until around 7pm each evening. Girls are 8 and 13.

Apparently I've been mentally abusing him. By mentally abusing him he means that I ask him to do the occasional chore around the house or become a little annoyed when he chooses to spend 3 hours polishing his car instead of taking youngest out somewhere for a few hours.

I've realised after all of these sleazy discoveries that he actually doesn't bring much to the table in our relationship.

It's just difficult when your life is turned upside down like this so spectacularly.

If you’d really been ‘mentally abusing’ him, then he’d want to be rid of you. But he doesn’t, so clearly he’s just saying that to absolve himself of blame.

He’s pathetic.

determinedtomakethiswork · 17/12/2023 23:30

He certainly a liar. He's a cheat and a manipulator as well. He's lying about throwing himself off a bridge. He'll be on the only fans and at the escort agencies before you can say goodbye.

I wouldn't do anything this side of Christmas because of the children, but I would get everything in place and tell him he had a week after Christmas to find himself somewhere to live.

mrsbyers · 17/12/2023 23:36

Leave him before your daughter starts to think this is what a healthy happy relationship is and is set up for a life of misery

DumpseyDaisey · 17/12/2023 23:37

Honestly if you have lovely supportive parents, I'd just get you and the dcs to their house and have a nice Christmas there leaning on them for support.

It's a fantasy that you can have a normal Xmas at home unfortunately because things aren't normal, and he may well become belligerent and / or aggressive.

If he threatens to harm himself call the police and let them deal with it.

And I'm sorry.

Moonshine5 · 17/12/2023 23:39

Show your girls that they should never put up with abusive behaviour

DustyMaiden · 17/12/2023 23:43

Make sure he written his will.

Damnedidont · 17/12/2023 23:49

If he threatens suicide again call the police and ask for a welfare check. You have not taken his family he has thrown it away. Don't give in to emotional blackmail.Do get help and support asap. Hope things get better for you

BoredofBlonde · 17/12/2023 23:49

he says he has nowhere to go and if I make him go he will take his pills and I won't see him ever again.

Ah the old taking pills/ jump off a bridge or in the case of Ex DickHead "Im walking to jump in front of a train". 13 years later, he is still alive and still a knob

It is usually the people who dont say a word that actually commit suicide, not the attention seekers

Copperoliverbear · 17/12/2023 23:51

Get rid of him, he can live in his lorry, you can do better. X

Butterfly44 · 17/12/2023 23:53

He's manipulating that by saying it but won't go through with it - once he sees it hasn't worked and you want to split anyway he will change his tune and start getting angry. So be prepared for that.

Absolutely you should leave. Your relationship has categorically changed forever. You'll do yourself no favours to stay and be a doormat. If your daughter's future husband had done this what would you be advising? In the long run you'll be showing your girls that they should be strong and independent and to have high standards.

ChanelNo19EDT · 17/12/2023 23:55

Yeh my x tried to manipulate me with that. He didn't think he would survive me leaving. Weird, cos he clearly hated me. He's also alive and kicking.

Onwegointohappytimes · 18/12/2023 00:06

Sorry, but I've seen this play out so many times. But here goes ...

You're going to stay with him. 100%. You'd be gone already otherwise.

This thread gives you the comfort you considered it.

Anonymous12344321 · 18/12/2023 00:39

@Onwegointohappytimes I absolutely don't intend to stay but I want HIM to leave the family home in a bid to cause as little disruption to the children's lives as possible.

I'm lucky in that I am able to pay a mortgage on my salary alone so I'm in a position where I'm able to exit the marriage.

I came on here to get support with the threats of suicide and just the general support of others who had been in similar situations.

I don't find your post particularly supportive, it's rather unkind to be honest. I can only thank the rest of the posters who have helped me immensely in feeling that I am doing the right thing and I can get through this traumatic time in my life.

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