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Is He Worth A Second Chance

94 replies

Laurabrowne84 · 08/12/2023 01:48

Hi MN users

Im a 39 year old single mom to 2 kids age 12 and 14. Both kids were little when their dad and I split up. I’ve only dated once since the split 7 years ago.
i started seeing a guy 3.5 years ago. We dated almost 18 months but it was rocky. I really fell in love with him because he has great qualities and was of course amazing the first 6 months.
He’s got couple kids too although grown as he’s older than me. Let’s just say him and my kids didn’t get along and he had little patience. It got to the stage I’d spend time with him just him and me because he didn’t want to be around them and said he needed quality time alone with me. So we didn’t get much time as when you’ve got your kids 85% of the time and working, it’s hard. And he would always get mad at me about my parenting style and dictate how I should parent. He’s been divorced a long time and quite likes things his way from living on his own so long. We were having insufficient time together and he was becoming increasingly agitated, withdrawing from me, hardly affectionate, snapping at everything. He said it was hard because of my kids. Anyway I got offered a better job in another town far away so I moved because I didn’t see things working as he indicated as long as I had kids in the mix, he’s going to struggle. When I left he was very upset, didn’t want me gone.
ive now been gone just on 2 years, made some friends, job going good. My kids miss their friends in previous town but they’re ok.
The guy has kept in contact with me the whole time I’ve been gone and always wanted me to come back and offered assistance to get me back. I guess most men would’ve washed the hands of me when I left town, so it does seem like loyalty on his side. My kids are older and more independent, but they are still my children and come first. They would be happy to move back to where we were, but not that keen for me to date the guy again because they know that he doesn’t have much interest in them and ends up hurting me emotionally. When he gets in his moods he can get quite nasty verbally, but will put it on me because of the dynamics.
He wants me to make a decision within a month otherwise he said it’s come to a point where we will no longer be in communications. He has visited me once since I’ve been gone. Admittedly, I do still have feelings for him, but I’m worried that if I move back I will end up in square one in caught in the middle between him and the my children, Having the same fights, because we don’t spend enough time together, feeling pressure from him to parent differently I’m basically exhausting myself, trying to be a girlfriend and a mother and hold down a job. The problem is I have feelings for him still and one day the kids will grow up and I will have an empty home.
Just to clarify, I never lived with him, and if I moved back, I’d be in my own place so there would be no and a amosite and my children. I’m just not sure what to do.

OP posts:
Popdrop · 08/12/2023 01:58

He didn't get on with your kids.
He had no patience.
He criticised your parenting
He hurts you emotionally. He's mean.
He's giving you unreasonable ultimatums.

Yeah sounds like a great idea op!

SataumaMeddler · 08/12/2023 02:03

Don't confuse loyalty with control!!

Holdingsteady · 08/12/2023 02:11

He sounds like a selfish git!

Your job is going well, you have made some friends and your kids don’t like him, what else is there to say?

Stay where you are OP, or, if you do decide to go back, go for yourself not for him.

Personally, I would block him on all socials so you won’t be giving him headspace that he doesn’t deserve.

Summerhillsquare · 08/12/2023 02:16

Never go back, is my advice. It was over for a reason.

Laurabrowne84 · 08/12/2023 03:02

Well, he said that other men would not still be talking to me after I left town, and I’ve been gone so long. They certainly wouldn’t want to date me again after leaving. Maybe I have blinkers on, but I’ve been looking at it like he must really love me to still hang in there. However yes sides of him that get nasty ate not nice at all, especially as you never know when or what’s going to set him off

OP posts:
Ffsnotaconference · 08/12/2023 04:19

Laurabrowne84 · 08/12/2023 03:02

Well, he said that other men would not still be talking to me after I left town, and I’ve been gone so long. They certainly wouldn’t want to date me again after leaving. Maybe I have blinkers on, but I’ve been looking at it like he must really love me to still hang in there. However yes sides of him that get nasty ate not nice at all, especially as you never know when or what’s going to set him off

No he doesn't love you. He wants eo control you.

He doesn't like your kids. He is u likely to like them as they grow. Maybe even as adults. Do you really want 2 lives forever? Kids can't come to your home because he is there. Can't see them on Christmas day, because it will mean leaving him alone and so on. On your birthday see them separate to him.

You have aren't your new life, anchored to him. Letting him influence it. And you have allowed it.

I don't think you have feelings for him. I think you are flattered because you think he is making big gestures to win you back. On some level you like the drama of him trying to get you back. You haven't moved on because you are still continuing this dynamic with him.

Simply put, he is an abusive twat and if you continue this back and forth, off relationship with him you will waste your life. If you get back with him you will cause life long issues in your relationship with your children and make yourself miserable.

HopeFloatsAbove · 08/12/2023 04:49

Wow he is a head worker isn't he? He wants to control you, that is it. Its not love that is being brought to your table. Listen to your children.

Maybe see if you can do the freedom program so you can filter through manipulative individuals as he is clearly one.

He is giving you a deadline?

Read your post back to yourself as if it was from your child, what would your advice be then?

RantyAnty · 08/12/2023 04:52

He's still the abusive twat he has always been.

He's hanging around as he hasn't found another mug to put up with his shit.

Tilllly · 08/12/2023 04:56

Never let an old flame burn you twice

titsgigglesandshits · 08/12/2023 05:04

Goodness please don't go back there.

He hasn't changed - giving you an ultimatum to make your mind up within a month.

Is he a role model you want for your children? Surely you want them to see you in a loving , respectful relationship. You'll never create a happy, loving family environment for your children with him in it.

If you can't do it for yourself (you deserve better) do it for your children.

Please don't bring him back into their lives.

Pollywoddles · 08/12/2023 05:11

Laurabrowne84 · 08/12/2023 03:02

Well, he said that other men would not still be talking to me after I left town, and I’ve been gone so long. They certainly wouldn’t want to date me again after leaving. Maybe I have blinkers on, but I’ve been looking at it like he must really love me to still hang in there. However yes sides of him that get nasty ate not nice at all, especially as you never know when or what’s going to set him off

You need to change your mindset. He’s trying to manipulate you, how would he know what other men would or wouldn’t do? He doesn’t love you, if he did then none of your problems would be problems. You’re just easy to control, no wonder he doesn’t want you getting away.

Cut him off and start to enjoy your new life.

whatsthesenseinsharing · 08/12/2023 06:24

Absolutely not! If a suitable partner can't shelf their stuff (as any decent adult would) to be decent, civilised and get on with your children for the sake of building a relationship with you then he's not worth another chance. It's all flattering and lovely hearing sentiment about how he feels for you but you aren't just you, you have wonderful children who want you to be happy. L the characteristics of this man seem appealing but appealing to who? And and what cost? So many red flags... A huge indicator of how a relationship will go can be determined by how the partner will interact with your children. This doesn't seem like it would sustain itself without upset and unnecessary drama

Usernamechange1234 · 08/12/2023 06:28

Absolutely not! This man is nasty. He clearly wants to control you and if you go back your children will start to resent you when his behaviours inevitably start up again.

Right now your question should be should I stop contact with this man and the resounding answer would be yes!

determinedtomakethiswork · 08/12/2023 06:30

Laurabrowne84 · 08/12/2023 03:02

Well, he said that other men would not still be talking to me after I left town, and I’ve been gone so long. They certainly wouldn’t want to date me again after leaving. Maybe I have blinkers on, but I’ve been looking at it like he must really love me to still hang in there. However yes sides of him that get nasty ate not nice at all, especially as you never know when or what’s going to set him off

Can you imagine how much he would punish you if you did return to him?

dangerrabbit · 08/12/2023 06:31

Sounds a great idea. What could possibly go wrong?

Pillboxer · 08/12/2023 06:33

Who cares if he’s ‘loyal’? He’s awful.

Fourfurrymonsters · 08/12/2023 06:33

This isn’t so much red flags as a mile-long stream of scarlet bunting….absolutely do not go back to this guy. In fact, bin him completely. Today.
Quite apart from the controlling behaviour and the tantrumming, he will work tirelessly to distance you from the kids he doesn’t like, and you will regret that to the end of your days. Just put him back.

MsClarice · 08/12/2023 06:37

You know the answer to this OP. It's not a few relationship, you have all the facts, experience and background you need.
Cut contact and move on with your life.

MsClarice · 08/12/2023 06:37

*new relationship

Divebar2021 · 08/12/2023 06:38

He’s about as “loyal” as venereal disease.

EVHead · 08/12/2023 06:50

Bin and block.

Come on, OP, he’s horrible! You deserve better.

SylvieLaufeydottir · 08/12/2023 06:56

He's nasty manipulative fucker and the longer you talk to him the more he'll mess up your head.

Cut him off and block him. And do not do not do NOT move back or do anything for his benefit.

CheekyHobson · 08/12/2023 07:04

The guy has kept in contact with me the whole time I’ve been gone and always wanted me to come back and offered assistance to get me back. I guess most men would’ve washed the hands of me when I left town, so it does seem like loyalty on his side.

Alternatively, a lack of other women willing to put up with his bullshit.

SpringleDingle · 08/12/2023 07:38

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Loopytiles · 08/12/2023 07:40

OMG no! You made bad choices the first time, don’t compound it! Shit for your DC.

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