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I've fallen for gaslighting and made a massive mess

94 replies

HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:08

Hi. This is very long but I am so very lost and would please appreciate some advice.

Some weeks ago, my husband started what I thought was a sexy talk game where we tell stories about being with other people. It started to turn very accusatory and I called him out on this and explained he was makimg me feel umcomfortable, like he thought I was some sort of slut.
I should probably add that my mother passed away just a few days before this started. I believe this is relevant. I still havent had tje headspace to grieve properly for her.

He then admits he saw text messages on my phone from 15+ years ago - really sick sex game stuff that I have zero knowledge of. He is utterly convinced that he has been reading sexy texts on my phone from about ten guys on and off throughout our marriage, that i invited one of these people into our bed, that I shagged this person in front of our kids (toddlers at the time he thinks this happened).

The gaslighting side of this comes in as he is SO convinced by all of this that I started questioning my own memories.
He gave me an ultimatum of confessing or he was leaving me. We have had a great relatiomahip in my opinion - notbqitgout it's ups and downs of course. Fell in love as teenagers, married young and became parents after just a year together. I absolutely adore him, and I thought he did me. We had a very bad year early'ish in our marriage where he was emotionally abusive towards me calling me names and that nobody else would love me so I should just stay with him (I had put a lot of weight on after having 2 children in close succession). I did look to find someone else to love me, this person was kind to me and took me out for lunch. I stayed at his flat once however had no condoms so we didnt sleep together but we did hold hands and kiss. It lasted about 3 weeks, maybe less. My husband found out about this and I was truly ashamed that I had ever done this and vowed never to repeat this. I remember this experience in vivid detail, which is why I'm so baffled that I remember nothing at all about the other things my dh talks about. My dad passed away about 2 or 3 weeks after dh found out as well. I was a daddys girl and it really affected me that I had let him down, I wasnt raised that way. I still carry the guilt of that today and absolutely take full responsibility

Anyway...

As he has dripfed information about all these 'affairs' to me, I have then created a story to go with it that fits his narrative. I have effectively confessed to shagging about 8 people, had a threesome, met up in some dark road to climb into someones car and fuck.

He has alao confessed to having 2 affairs in 2008 and 2009, one quite lengthy and one more of a fling (with his friends gf!). He sent me their names and photographs too.

To say I am devastated would be an underatatement but I'm not allowed to ahow this as he vlbelieved what I have 'done' is so much worse. He is truly broken by all this, and I don't know what to do to help him. I'm finding myswlf repeatedly apologising for things I haven't done to make him feel better.

He also wanted to sexualise scenarios he said he read about so he makes me reenact them with his details, he then gets himself off with these stories. He tells me he appreciates my honesty and it fucking shatters my heart everytime.

WTF have I done here? And how TF do I fix it? I know I shouod never have confessed to things I havent done, my brain went into fight or flight mode and him leaving just was not am option I could consider.
I have tried telling my dh the full truth several times but he thinks I'm just lying to protect myself and geta very angry. I would too if I believed as strongly as he does.

A few weeks ago I did have him arrested as he pinned me down on our bed and hit me twice around the head. I confess i did bite him on the forearm and gave him a nasty bruise but that's literally the only way I could defend myself.

I truly want our relationship to work. We have had a very strong relationship up until the last couple of months. We have been together 20 years, I am very hesistant to throw all that time away for what I believe is a mental issue on his part. I want to support him. He does have severe anxiety and recently diagnosed with depression.

I have an excellent relationship with his mum and have told her everything. He is furious with me for this. I now know her and her dh have been through some almost identical scenarios over the years and wonder if this is somehow just how my dh is wired? I dont think that is even possible though really.

Sorry, I know this is so long. Replies may be sporadic, I'm not really allowed to use my phone so much so dh will be mad if he kniws I've posted here.

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HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:09

Sorry for typos, my phone doesnt autocorrect and I'm trying to be quick believe it or now haha.

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stargatesg1 · 30/11/2023 20:10

This is so fucked up.

DancingDangerously · 30/11/2023 20:10

WTAF??

You want this relationship to work??

AllTheWatersTurnedToClouds · 30/11/2023 20:11

You need to get very far away from him before he really hurts you

DancingDangerously · 30/11/2023 20:13

If this is real (it's so screwed up that I'm not going to take it at face value) then you have got to find some self-respect and some dignity and get yourself out of this situation. What a waste of a life.

MissIndecisive2023 · 30/11/2023 20:14

Dear me. Get out. Now.

DancingDangerously · 30/11/2023 20:15

Being generous, you're in an extremely abusive relationship with a deeply damaged man and it has damaged you psychologically and will continue to do so. You're also in physical danger, as you well know.

You should not be wanting to stay in this relationship.

HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:16

I truly do adore him and would happily spend my life with him.
He has never been like this in all of our years, never hit me before ans hasnt hit me since.

I really think he has mental health issues beyond what confirmed.

Im finding myswlf reassuring him that these 'affairs' will never happen again because I would rather hurt myself than hurt him.
He's no idea how fucking true that is.

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CheekyHobson · 30/11/2023 20:16

You should be making it your number one priority to get the hell out of this abusive relationship and get into serious therapy immediately.

Flyhigher · 30/11/2023 20:16

I hope this isn't true. I really do. If it is. Get out of this. It's very bad.

BarryK3nt · 30/11/2023 20:16

You both sound completely insane

TomeTome · 30/11/2023 20:17

You can’t stay with him. Find help and leave him.

HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:17

Believe me I wish it wasn't real!

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CheekyHobson · 30/11/2023 20:18

I really think he has mental health issues beyond what confirmed.

Im finding myswlf reassuring him that these 'affairs' will never happen again because I would rather hurt myself than hurt him.

I mean this kindly, but if you are making up affairs to go along with his sick fantasies and gaslighting and you are excusing physical abuse on the grounds he hasn't done it before, you also have mental health issues that need addressing urgently.

Treesinthewind · 30/11/2023 20:19

This sounds worryingly like the beginnings of psychosis. Do you feel safe being at home with him?

category12 · 30/11/2023 20:19

He sounds like he needs intervention from MH services.

And you need help from domestic abuse services - you're in danger from this man. You need to get yourself (and any children still living at home) out of this situation.

oogbkihdeeflkigfviimmm · 30/11/2023 20:19

Your relationship is really bad and completely crazy.

why would you admit to these things that weren’t true just to keep him? Work on your self esteem and your own issues and leave him.

im not shocked often but this is next level.

Ollifer · 30/11/2023 20:20

What the hell, he sounds deranged but op I must admit I don't understand why you've gone along with all this talk as well, it's weird.

Neodymium · 30/11/2023 20:22

none of his actions are of someone who you should want to be in a relationship with. If this is truely completely out of character for him, maybe he’s had a blow to the head, or some other brain injury.

Coconutter24 · 30/11/2023 20:22

I’d suggest giving your own mental health a check. I mean that in the nicest way possible

HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:23

Thank you all for replying.

I don't blame you one bit for thinking this is fake - its so screwed up. Life is just completely upside down. Earlier this year we were making plans to travel for cricket when the kids are all older. We were planning to sell the house but the market isn't moving in our area so we withdrew it.

I'm generally quite logical, I've made my manager at work aware and she has given me support. It was her and my sister that made me call the police - I didnt call straight away as I was scared it would just make things worse so it was 4 days later after an evening of me being at work receiving nasty whatsapp messages and snapchats

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LambriniBobinIsleworth · 30/11/2023 20:23

I truly think he might kill you @HurtingInSilence. I'm not saying that flippantly. You must leave him. Have you got somewhere safe you can go?

romdowa · 30/11/2023 20:23

Wtf have I just read? There really no words to describe how messed up this is. You need to get yourself some help. Womens aid , some therapy and god knows what else. This is seriously messed up and you're playing with fire here and are going to end up hurt or worse.

HurtingInSilence · 30/11/2023 20:27

My manager at work has given me details for refuge and has made me aware of support my employer can offer me in the very likely event that this relationship ends.

The police also put me in touch with our local domestic abuse team. Social services have done a couple of home and school visits too.
This also made my dh angry but I felt reassured by it all.

I do feel safe at the moment, his parents are actually living with us temporarily as they are visiting from overseas for the winter.

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AutumnFroglets · 30/11/2023 20:29

A few weeks ago I did have him arrested as he pinned me down on our bed and hit me twice around the head. I confess i did bite him on the forearm and gave him a nasty bruise but that's literally the only way I could defend myself.

This is bad OP. Very, very bad. Why is he back in the house? Contact Women's Aid for support on how to leave him safely. I can see this escalating to the point of your children becoming motherless. Seek help asap.

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