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Bone Idle step son :(

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atendofmytether · 14/11/2023 16:20

I’m a regular but name changed for this as it’s outing. sorry it's long.

Me and DH have four children in their 20s between us, we bought a 5 bed house 3yrs ago when we moved in together to accommodate, though now we only have DH son, 23yr, with us full time.

Issue is he is absolutely bone idle. He only works 3 days a week, total 24 hrs, gets a taxi every time which takes 3 mins, he’s never helped out in the house despite being asked numerous times over the years.

He’s got no social life, it’s been years since he went on a night out. He can’t drive, no interest in learning. He spends his spare time sleeping, gaming or watching sport with DH. He can’t cook, lives off junk food/takeaways if I don’t cook. DH agrees he’s lazy, he doesn’t like it, but “can’t change him”.

I’m sick of coming home from work seeing him sat watching tv with his feet up having done nothing all day, when me and DH work long hours.

DH thinks we’re staying in the house until the mortgage is paid off in 10 years, I’d like to downsize next year or two as there’s only two of us. I don’t want to think DSS will still be living with us when he’s 33.

Me and DH don’t know how we get DSS to a point where he’s looking to move out in the next 2-3 years. We both agree he needs to be getting a full-time job, learning to drive and saving for his own place. But how do we make him change so massively that he’d be able to live self sufficiently?!

I’ve been strict with my two, since leaving education they’ve always worked full time and pulled their weight at home. DH is too soft with him and we end up arguing because DSS doesn’t give a damn and knows his dad won’t follow through on trying to make him change.

My DH says we put his rent up, but that won’t sort him. I think we turn the Wi-Fi off so he can’t go online and spend all day gaming on his days off, but then he’ll just watch sport.

I’m at the end of my tether. I really don’t know how to sort this. Any advice from anyone please.

OP posts:
atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 13:30

AbondonedThemePark · 15/11/2023 13:21

always been main parent.

And yet he seems unable to parent his son.

Agree!!! main parent as in they've always lived with him, but he's a lazy parent, never seen anything through, made them to fend for themselves, odd as he's not lazy in any other way.

OP posts:
Roussette · 15/11/2023 13:37

With all due respect, you have a DH problem! Your first port of call to discuss this is your husband. I would honestly not put up with this.

It's ridiculous!

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:40

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 12:15

No, I don't have a high regard for adults who sponge off their parents constantly and don't work because they can't be bothered, why is his 29 year old still asking dad for money and DH still giving it him! Just get a full time job.

So yeah, there's my issue, shoot me down for it!

but you really can’t see that this is the product of many many many years of parenting.

and your DH is still indulging it

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:41

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 13:30

Agree!!! main parent as in they've always lived with him, but he's a lazy parent, never seen anything through, made them to fend for themselves, odd as he's not lazy in any other way.

one question

why? why did you marry someone who was very very evidently a piss poor parent?

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:42

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 12:18

If it was my son I would be saying something about the fact he's not teaching himself or learning to cook, and I would have something to say about him ordering takeaways 4+ times a week, but I can't as my DH doesn't have an issue with it and like I said, it causes arguments between us.

this is your home Op

your dh is failing you

so you just advocate for yourself

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:44

29???! you are never ever ever going to change a 29 year old after 29 years of this kind of parenting. ever.

and his younger brother.. the one that lives with you. How far in to his twenties? either way…. his step mum will never ever ever be able to “encourage” a man in his twenties to get a social life or be out of the house more

ladeluge · 15/11/2023 13:54

Step son and his father should share a flat.

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:40

Roussette · 15/11/2023 13:37

With all due respect, you have a DH problem! Your first port of call to discuss this is your husband. I would honestly not put up with this.

It's ridiculous!

I've had numerous conversations with DH, he agrees with a lot of it but doesn't follow anything through, I can see it's going to have to be me that has the conversation with DSS with DH sat there nodding his head, so I'll be the bad guy!

OP posts:
atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:43

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:41

one question

why? why did you marry someone who was very very evidently a piss poor parent?

I ask myself that. I thought , naively, that he would make him up his game when we all moved in together, time went on and we had so many arguments about it, it was easier to leave them to it.

There's now going to be some serious conversations, I've had enough of them both sat there having a good old time watching sport etc whilst I seeth inside that he should be out at work!

OP posts:
Roussette · 15/11/2023 14:44

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:40

I've had numerous conversations with DH, he agrees with a lot of it but doesn't follow anything through, I can see it's going to have to be me that has the conversation with DSS with DH sat there nodding his head, so I'll be the bad guy!

Just keep saying "your Dad agrees with me 100%" !!

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:47

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 13:42

this is your home Op

your dh is failing you

so you just advocate for yourself

Yes I know he is. I am sick of him going off on one when I mention that I am not happy with the way DSS is in the house, then it gets left, and starts again and gets left ... I've told him now it needs to change.

I've written down a lot of what you guys have suggested here and I'm going to have to be the one to have the conversation.

OP posts:
atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:47

Roussette · 15/11/2023 14:44

Just keep saying "your Dad agrees with me 100%" !!

I will be, he does agree, or he says he does!

We'll see.

OP posts:
Afteropening · 15/11/2023 14:50

your dh “goes off on one” when you raise the issue

man’s he admits he “joked” when he said he would address this

OP - what is your marriage like this issue aside?

because you need to be realistic… you will have a 40 year old living with you and you will be financially supporting the other even older son

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 16:32

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 14:50

your dh “goes off on one” when you raise the issue

man’s he admits he “joked” when he said he would address this

OP - what is your marriage like this issue aside?

because you need to be realistic… you will have a 40 year old living with you and you will be financially supporting the other even older son

Yes as soon as I say, I want a chat about DSS he rolls his eyes and has his back up, I start by saying don't get on one, let's have a conversation, I'm not happy with XYZ .... he pretty much cuts me of, ok ok we'll talk to him, no need to go on about it, I do feel like walking out sometimes.

We have a good relationship apart from this ... it's pretty much the only thing we argue about.

We have our own money, we put the same into a joint account each month for the house/bills then what's left is our own, so the money he hands out to his sons comes out of his own money

OP posts:
AbondonedThemePark · 15/11/2023 16:34

atendofmytether · 15/11/2023 14:40

I've had numerous conversations with DH, he agrees with a lot of it but doesn't follow anything through, I can see it's going to have to be me that has the conversation with DSS with DH sat there nodding his head, so I'll be the bad guy!

What's the point in having the conversation when your husband will just facilitate his son's wants ?

Afteropening · 15/11/2023 16:39

what a way to live op

you should start a second thread. in relationships. about your dh

Floofydawg · 15/11/2023 18:02

God I couldn't live like this. Imagine if he doesn't ever leave? This is the time when the kids should be off your hands and you get some well earned peace.

RantyAnty · 15/11/2023 21:44

Glad to hear you're going to have a serious conversation with him.

Don't let him bully you or try to change the subject.

Afteropening · 16/11/2023 05:55

oh come on… the ship has well and truly sailed for a “serious conversation” with both your DH and his adult son

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