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DH can't forgive me asking for a divorce

89 replies

Appleroses · 05/11/2023 23:29

I've been married to DH for 20 years, and we have three dc (all teenagers). Our relationship was up and down for many years, but up until a couple of years ago, even though we would argue sometimes, I always felt that DH loved me.

The last couple of years I feel he has checked out. He has been very depressed, brought on in a large part by work stress, and had a breakdown. He has actually struggled with his mental health throughout our relationship and I have tried to support him as much as I can throughout.

I think that I have my own issues with co dependency, and I've been looking into love addiction, as I think I may have it - I have always been overly focussed on our relationship, I can't feel ok unless I know everything is ok with DH. My dad was emotionally unavailable and didn't show or express love at all, so I know my perspective/ feelings may be skewed.

A couple of years ago things were very bad - DH was often angry, passive aggressive, cold, disengaged. It was awful and to be honest I felt like I just couldn't bear it any longer. I suggested to him that we get a divorce. He took it really badly and was devastated. We made up, but since then things have changed. DH seems quite distant, and doesn't show me any affection. No intimacy or closeness. We are basically like housemates. I asked him today if we could have an honest conversation and told him that I was really struggling with how our relationship was.

He basically said that since I mentored divorce to him, all his ideas about being with me forever came crashing down. He feels that it was humiliating for him. I tried to explain that it was because his behaviour had been so difficult for me that I just couldn't see any other way out, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. He said he still loves me, but wasn't "in love" with me. I asked him if his feelings would ever change and if he would ever want to be intimate again but he said he didn't know, but didn't seem very postive.

I asked him if we met each other now if he would choose me as a partner and he said probably not. He thinks that our plans and goals for after the children leave home are quite different and he wants to live the life he wants and doesn't know if I'll be happy with that.

(By the way, he didn't volunteer all this information, I had to ask him specific questions).

I felt relieved that we'd finally had an honest conversation and I like everything to be out in the open, but I feel really confused. I've felt terrible thinking I have messed everything up by asking for a divorce, but then again I know I only did it as the situation and his behaviour at the time was unbearable. He wants to stay together at least for the next few years until the dc leave home and then see what happens.

I don't know if the love will ever come back from him. I think he has shut off. He keeps saying that we just need to take things slowly, but I'm the type of person who wants to know now. If I knew that he was never going to be able to forgive me and that he thinks we're too different, I'd rather know now, and maybe we could split up sooner rather than later. I don't want to, as I love him, and would be devastated for the children, but I feel so confused and heartbroken living in what essentially feels like a loveless marriage.

He did give me a couple of hugs today after our conversation which he hasn't done for ages, but I don't know if they were just friendly hugs.

I'm so confused and sad - if anyone has any thoughts on the situation, I'd be very grateful!

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StBrides · 06/11/2023 00:03

Take back control of your life.

First reply nails it

TomatoSandwiches · 06/11/2023 00:04

Stop being passive and make a decision, no one needs to wait for a divorce because of the children.
He sounds absolutely horrendous as if he has been punishing you for your very understandable actions of past.
I would assume he has checked out tbh and perhaps has made his own schedule up as to when to devastate you as much as he thinks you did to him before.
It's all a game to him at this point and I would refuse to play with someone like that.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 06/11/2023 00:07

He’s blaming you for his failings. He tried to drag you down with him and didn’t work.

Greenoh · 06/11/2023 00:10

It’s all on his terms. Stop fussing over and round him.

Ffsebok · 06/11/2023 00:18

Greenoh · 06/11/2023 00:10

It’s all on his terms. Stop fussing over and round him.

This is such important advice for your own mental wellbeing. Turning yourself inside out to try and accommodate his moods and whims is madness making. Put yourself first if nothing else. Focus on your friends/career/hobbies/whatever and stop looking to him for validation/affection etc. Stop being satisfied with the crumbs he's throwing you. Feeling chuffed because your own husband has given you one hug in weeks is not good.

Peachy2005 · 06/11/2023 00:18

Just get out asap, no point wasting any more years on this. He has a handy “blame you” thing he has latched onto so you’re just wasting your own time waiting for the love to “come back”.

unsync · 06/11/2023 00:21

Don't prolong the agony. Once you get to this stage, you are flogging a dead horse.

He wants you to stay for the time being because it makes his life easier. I will hazard a guess that you do the life admin and housework.

What exactly are you getting from him that brings joy to your life? You should feel loved and cherished, or at the very least respected. Otherwise, what is the point? I can't imagine that it's much fun for the children either.

DesparatePragmatist · 06/11/2023 00:21

OP, it might help to put the relationship issues to one side - sounds like they've been going on some years in one form or another. Focus on your own insight into yourself. From what you've said you have strong people-pleasing tendencies as a result of your relationship with your dad. Get some help with this, read about it and insecure attachment. Your H is not your dad and you will never earn love by being nice enough. That's your inner child, still in survival mode. Adult-you can navigate relationships on your own terms, once you come out of this. You can either set and maintain boundaries in your marriage to improve it and be happier, or leave in your own way at your own time.

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 06/11/2023 00:24

So divorce him!

whynotwhatknot · 06/11/2023 00:59

he just told you he wouldnt pick you for a partner-isnt that enough

jesus why do some women not see what is right in front of them

OfficerChurlish · 06/11/2023 01:44

If he "loves" you but is no longer in love with you (and/or vice versa), that seems like a big, obvious clue that divorce is a logical next step. You don't have to go through with it - maybe you try counseling, maybe you decide to stay together for practical reasons even though it's not really a romantic relationship any more, maybe hearing it said out loud make you both realize that you want to take radical action to try to save the relationship - but why on earth is he so devastated by you bringing the topic up? You had the hard job. I couldn't cope with someone who acts like this much of a baby over a difficult but necessary conversation.

OhcantthInkofaname · 06/11/2023 01:53

You're marriage has ended. You are housemates now.

RandomForest · 06/11/2023 02:20

Sounds like a man who has had an affair or is having one.

Op he's turning this one round on you, making him the victim.

Don't fall for it.

He sounds cruel.

GrumpyOldCrone · 06/11/2023 02:33

He will keep bringing this up for the next 20 years. From what you say, a divorce would be better for you.

Oblomov23 · 06/11/2023 02:56

This is so sad. But as others have said realistically how is this ever going to get any better?

Tonia16 · 06/11/2023 02:58

Do what you want to do, but remember that this is Mumsnet where the answer is always "divorce' and 'put yourself first.'
Why does a poster suggest that he is having an affair?
You said that he has been depressed and had a breakdown. What happened to 'in sickness and in health?'
Life isn't perfect.

Delt · 06/11/2023 03:10

He's manipulating you. Perhaps not even consciously.

Either way you need help to figure out what's going on with you - it's not healthy to be co-dependent in the way you describe.

Stop worrying about what's going on with him and put that energy into resolving your own issues - then you'll probably have the right answer on what you want to do.

Autiebibliophile · 06/11/2023 03:25

He's taking no responsibility for why you asked for a divorce.

You asked because where your marriage was at you couldn't see another way forward. Now you either both commit to making the marriage work or you walk away.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 06/11/2023 03:37

So "I'm going to treat you like shit and get mortally offended if you then tell me that my treating you like shit has made you contemplate divorcing me"? Is that the sum of it?

Sounds a lot like DARVO - he is turning it around and blaming you for the outcome of his actions.

ElleCapitaine · 06/11/2023 04:36

Can you see yourself living like this in 5-10 years? Would you be happy? If not, rip off the plaster. Yes, it will probably be awful for a while, but you’re not happy and he’s not happy. He’s not in love with you, he wouldn’t pick you again, and there’s no intimacy. What would you tell your son or daughter is they were in a marriage like yours?

IAmtheVampiresWife · 06/11/2023 04:49

He thinks that our plans and goals for after the children leave home are quite different and he wants to live the life he wants and doesn't know if I'll be happy with that.

This is something to think about. He doesn't see a future with you.

RedCoffeeCup · 06/11/2023 04:56

Why does he say that your plans and goals for after the children leave home are quite different? Is he right? What does he mean by "he wants to live the life he wants"?

I think you would benefit from couples counselling to talk this through.

Hearmenow23 · 06/11/2023 04:58

He's already told you what's what. Take some time to plan your life without him and then go. I might eke it out a bit if dc are in exam years.

MiddleParking · 06/11/2023 05:02

I suggested to him that we get a divorce. He took it really badly and was devastated. We made up, but since then things have changed.

’We made up’ is incongruous here, you weren’t describing a fight. You mean you conceded to him. And he’s now using that to hold complete power in this dynamic. You were right to want the divorce and you didn’t need his permission.