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DH can't forgive me asking for a divorce

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Appleroses · 05/11/2023 23:29

I've been married to DH for 20 years, and we have three dc (all teenagers). Our relationship was up and down for many years, but up until a couple of years ago, even though we would argue sometimes, I always felt that DH loved me.

The last couple of years I feel he has checked out. He has been very depressed, brought on in a large part by work stress, and had a breakdown. He has actually struggled with his mental health throughout our relationship and I have tried to support him as much as I can throughout.

I think that I have my own issues with co dependency, and I've been looking into love addiction, as I think I may have it - I have always been overly focussed on our relationship, I can't feel ok unless I know everything is ok with DH. My dad was emotionally unavailable and didn't show or express love at all, so I know my perspective/ feelings may be skewed.

A couple of years ago things were very bad - DH was often angry, passive aggressive, cold, disengaged. It was awful and to be honest I felt like I just couldn't bear it any longer. I suggested to him that we get a divorce. He took it really badly and was devastated. We made up, but since then things have changed. DH seems quite distant, and doesn't show me any affection. No intimacy or closeness. We are basically like housemates. I asked him today if we could have an honest conversation and told him that I was really struggling with how our relationship was.

He basically said that since I mentored divorce to him, all his ideas about being with me forever came crashing down. He feels that it was humiliating for him. I tried to explain that it was because his behaviour had been so difficult for me that I just couldn't see any other way out, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. He said he still loves me, but wasn't "in love" with me. I asked him if his feelings would ever change and if he would ever want to be intimate again but he said he didn't know, but didn't seem very postive.

I asked him if we met each other now if he would choose me as a partner and he said probably not. He thinks that our plans and goals for after the children leave home are quite different and he wants to live the life he wants and doesn't know if I'll be happy with that.

(By the way, he didn't volunteer all this information, I had to ask him specific questions).

I felt relieved that we'd finally had an honest conversation and I like everything to be out in the open, but I feel really confused. I've felt terrible thinking I have messed everything up by asking for a divorce, but then again I know I only did it as the situation and his behaviour at the time was unbearable. He wants to stay together at least for the next few years until the dc leave home and then see what happens.

I don't know if the love will ever come back from him. I think he has shut off. He keeps saying that we just need to take things slowly, but I'm the type of person who wants to know now. If I knew that he was never going to be able to forgive me and that he thinks we're too different, I'd rather know now, and maybe we could split up sooner rather than later. I don't want to, as I love him, and would be devastated for the children, but I feel so confused and heartbroken living in what essentially feels like a loveless marriage.

He did give me a couple of hugs today after our conversation which he hasn't done for ages, but I don't know if they were just friendly hugs.

I'm so confused and sad - if anyone has any thoughts on the situation, I'd be very grateful!

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/11/2023 16:25

Ugh.

Bloke is a dick to his wife.

She gets to the point of divorce if he doesn't stop being a dick to her.

Bloke is a dick.

Says it's her fault for telling him he was being a dick to her.

FictionalCharacter · 06/11/2023 16:39

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All of this.
It really does sound as though this marriage is over - there’s nothing left in it except living together.
Please stop blaming yourself for the relationship breakdown. In all your posts you’re trying to absolve him of all responsibility for keeping the marriage going at all, let alone happy.

TurnerP · 06/11/2023 16:42

He's checked out and plans to keep you sweet until he's ready to leave in a few years and keep arrangements as they are for now
Are you happy to stay in a loveless marriage for the kids until they are older?

TurnerP · 06/11/2023 16:46

. . Or even forever?

OhComeOnFFS · 06/11/2023 17:31

He thinks other people could be difficult to live with?

😂😂😂

Loubelle70 · 06/11/2023 19:17

2catsandhappy · 06/11/2023 13:38

I think @Littlegoth has it right. You will be useful until the dc have left home.
He has a 'get out of jail free' card that he will bring up everytime he is held accountable.
You are either in the marriage together or not. He doesn't get to cherry pick.
I would advise having a lawyer look at your options so you know your rights. You don't have to act on the knowledge. Get informed. Consider your choices.

Don't live half a life, unsure, uncertain, confused and upset.
If anybody treated your dc like that, what would you advise them?

Agree .also think hes staying until theyre old enough so he doesnt have to pay CM or bigger divorce settlement... he's waiting it out not for the kids but financially

Ihadenough22 · 06/11/2023 19:25

At this stage he does not want to do anything for you but expects you to stay with him. He is using the fact that you told him that you want a divorce as a stick to beat you with. Meanwhile you can deal with the kids, house, admin ect. Then when the kids leave home he might look at thing's.
I know that your are not happy at the moment. I think for your own sake you need to make a plan to end this marriage. You need to gather up all your and his financial information including all his pension information, make a solicitors appointment and find out where you stand. I know this won't be easy. He has shown by his lack of action that he won't make any effort for your marriage. The reality is that he is just staying with you to make his life easier.

I would then tell your husband that despite talking to him about his lack of effort for you or your marriage you have decided to get a divorce and he will be moving out of the house.
I think that staying with him will just drag you down and effect your own mental health. I also think that you and your children deserve better than an immature man who wants to blame you for his failings and whose probably in bad form when he is at home

BooBooBaloo · 06/11/2023 20:43

To be honest you've already broached the idea of divorce once, so he's probably worried you've got one foot out the door.

Relationships are two way, so I think your partner saying they wanted out would make anyone stop and also start considering whether they really get what the want/need out of the relationship either

'I want to break up' is always a risky tactic, particularly if you don't really want to. I've seen so many people use it because they want their partner to have a stunning realisation and change everything that upsets them, yet get surprised when it's pointed out that they have flaws that make them a less than perfect partner too

junbean · 06/11/2023 20:51

It sounds like you're the only one trying, and the only one taking any responsibility. It seems justified to have asked for a divorce, and since things are actually worse now, the obvious choice. He should have taken that as a wake-up call, not another excuse to treat you even worse! He doesn't seem worth it. I'm afraid you might be wasting your time and energy on him, when you could be happy in a different situation.

museumum · 06/11/2023 21:05

Just jumping in to add @Appleroses that splitting up when the children have just left home / gone to uni can be MORE upsetting for them than when they’re teens at home. If you do it now you can establish new patterns of contact, new homes etc together as a family. If you do it while they’re at uni it can feel like you’re pulling the rug out from under then behind their backs. It’s very hard for 18-20yr olds to lose the family home or family they knew just as they’re trying to go out into the world independently.

BackAgainstWall · 06/11/2023 21:25

He’s cruel.

Can’t you see how he’s punishing you and manipulating you because you stood up for yourself when HE was being horrendous.

Now the pri*k thinks HE has control over you and he will decide whether you’re worthy of him…., but in a few years time.

Nobody would do that to someone they truly loved.

You on the other hand sound extremely loving and supportive, and I think you’re totally wasted on him.

DontListenToWhatYouveConsumed · 13/01/2024 17:08

Why would you set yourself on fire to keep him warm?
It's clear he wouldn't piss on you to put you out if you were.
I'm sorry you find yourself here, but with the help of your therapist I hope you find a way out (before the children have grown up because no kid needs to see parents be apathetic to each other in the family home)

Wishicouldlovemyself · 04/08/2024 09:19

@Appleroses how are things? Did counselling help you?

Appleroses · 04/08/2024 10:41

Hi @Wishicouldlovemyself ! Yes, counselling did help me in that it clarified things for me. I realised that I was so attached to trying to keep the relationship going at all costs and keep the family together, but the situation had become unbearable and I couldn't do it any longer. I pushed for a separation and my (now ex) DH moved out 5 months ago.

It was a stressful, heartbreaking time, and since then has been an emotional rollercoaster, but my overall feeling has been huge relief. It is such a relief to have my own space, and peace at home, instead of endlessly treading on eggshells and worrying about exDH's moods or reactions. The dc seem to have adjusted really well, and my ex lives locally and they have their own bedrooms at his new place.

I feel I am now slowly healing from the years of stress and am now trying to work out where I stand and how I want to be going forward. Still such a lot to sort out in terms of finances, future housing etc, but overall I am in a much better place than when I was last year when I started this thread. The posts on this thread really helped me to clarify my thoughts too.

Thanks for checking in on me!

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