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“You swanning out to work everyday is annoying.

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Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:14

Last night, (because our cleaner had asked to come a day early this week), I tidied the entire house after a 12 hour day at work as a teacher.

DH was tired last night, so we agreed that I’d tidy/organise the house that night and he’d make the spare bed the following night. He finishes work at 3pm each day so that he can pick DD up from school and be with her. I finish work any time between 5 and 6:30 and have to be at work around 7:30am.

My DD 6 kept me company last night while I tidied and organised the whole house, clearing surfaces, putting laundry away, unloading the dishwasher, clearing clutter, emptying bins etc. We chatted away and she made a lovely mask as I was doing these jobs. When I’d finished, I read her a story and put her to bed while DH lay in bed on his phone.

I pulled out the mattress from under the spare room bed in preparation for my dad and his partner coming to stay this weekend but when I did, I noticed that our cat had used it as a hiding place and there was lots of fur under it. I asked if DH could hoover the mattress and make the bed to which he agreed.

Tonight I got in from work late (6:45) because it was the staff meeting at my school and DH said that we had no milk. I asked DD if she wanted to pop to the supermarket with me and thought that we could get some nice bits for my dad’s stay on the weekend. DD said she’d rather I just went but requested popcorn for our Friday night movie night.

I got home with the food shopping at 9pm and put it away. When I walked upstairs having had a 13 hour day pretty much non-stop, I found DH on DD’s bed with her asleep and him scrolling the internet and the spare bed was hoovered but unmade.

I felt really disappointed that there were still jobs to do, despite yesterday being on the go from 6am-10pm and today from 6am- 9pm and DH had done nothing but put the washing on the clothes horses that I’d put in before work this morning.

He heard me sighing frustratedly and asked how I was. I asked why he hadn’t made the bed and he said he’d “built” the bed (which is putting the two singles together with a clamp.) and hoovered it which had been “really hard”.

I said it’s not fair that I’d only asked him to do 1 thing and he hadn’t even done that despite agreeing to and despite me doing everything else and despite his working hours being more lenient.

He said he’d been making the kitchen floor (a job he stopped doing 6 months ago and he randomly decided to prioritise tonight!) I suggested that finishing the kitchen floor wasn’t really a priority when we have guests staying on Friday.

He then as he always does:

•told me I was in a “strop” repeatedly
•told me I was throwing my teddies out of the pram
•told me it didn’t need to be done that night
•Once I’d made the bed myself with duvet covers, pillow cases etc, he proceeded to grab all of the cushions off the floor and throw them chaotically on the made bed. When I told him that was unkind he said, incredulously, “What!? They just need to be off the floor for the cleaner to hoover!” Not acknowledging or being truthful about the fact that what he was really doing was trying to mess up my made bed.

•He had done a similar thing last week when I got annoyed with him about his hoarding problem starting to encroach on another room in the house. He reacted by getting loads old planks and old doors and throwing them across walkways in the previously clean and tidy kitchen and dining room then denied that this was an aggressive move until he was blue in the face.

•This time I decided to do to him what he’d done to me and went into his hoarding room and pushed a few bits of wood over.

•He got really mad then because his stuff is his whole world.

•He then told me that I’m a bad mother because I swan off for work 12 hours a day and I don’t see our daughter enough.

•I told him I have to work because we need the money and that we’re lucky because I get the whole holidays off so I can spend lots of time with our daughter in the holidays it’s free childcare so he should be happy, on weekends and I am home by 5pm so she’s only missing me for 1.5 hours of the day on those days.

•he said I don’t see her enough and my job annoys him.

• I suggested that it annoys him because when I’m not at home he has to actually do some domestic labour.

I cannot raise a single issue or communicate a single need to this man without knowing that I’ve got to get in the boxing ring and defend myself from his onslaught of nasty, unkind, disrespectful language, attitude and accusations.

Yes- I feel guilty about working full time but when I’m at home, I feel guilty about not getting my work all done. The last thing I need is for my own husband to be guilt tripping me about going to fucking work. It’s not as though I have anything close to a social life or a hobby. This is my FUCKING JOB!

He is now saying he is sorry but I’m so over his shitty, lazy, nasty attitude and behaviour.

I can’t leave because I couldn’t afford to/ it would break DD’s heart and I don’t trust that he wouldn’t expose my DD to her half sister in my absence. A dangerous and unkind young woman, who I don’t want anywhere near my DD.

So here I am - yet another trapped woman with the entirety of the mental load on my shoulders, unable to move away from a man who clearly has no love or respect for me.

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IHeartKingThistle · 13/09/2023 22:22

I'm so sorry OP. I don't know what to suggest.

bobbinsnbows · 13/09/2023 22:23

You’re doing far too much; he’s doing bugger all, being unreliable and difficult. Call his bluff: offer to resign and leave him to think of the implications - less money, no cleaner, him having to pull his weight, him possibly having to take on a supplementary job while you’re at home. He needs to grow up.

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:31

It’s just been helpful to write it down to be honest.
I’ve emailed relate so we’ll see but I just have a horrible feeling this is my life and I just need to accept it.

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ConnieTucker · 13/09/2023 22:36

Why did you make the bed?

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:36

I didn’t work when I was on maternity leave and we both literally went bankrupt and lived in a dirty, cluttered smelly house, with no money to go anywhere, do anything, buy clothes or even a cup of tea in a cafe.

It was alright for him because he was at work. I was poor and lonely at home in a freezing house with a baby with £1 per day to spend.

I worry that him wanting me to quit my job is because he likes me better when I’m disempowered.

I love my career. I’m proud that I became a teacher, having come from a very difficult upbringing.

He’s dressing it up that it’s for our daughter’s sake but she’s FINE! Her and I have a beautiful relationship. ALL parents have to work. It’s normal!

I hate how unkind and disrespectful and belittling and nasty he is when challenged.

Wish I’d never married.

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Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:38

Because I didn’t want to have to do it tomorrow night because it’s my one night of the week that I can come home early and spend time with DD.
I wanted everything done by tonight so that I could buy myself some relaxation time tomorrow.

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LouLou198 · 13/09/2023 22:39

Sorry I have no advice op but I can sympathise with you. Tonight I was running late at work, really busy day so ended working an extra hour. I apparently ruined the whole evening and put my work before my family. I am a terrible wife and mum. Last week I was told I am lazy and should work more hours.
Sadly I don't think you can win Flowers

bobbinsnbows · 13/09/2023 22:47

Whether you work or not he’s not on team Pumpernickel. In fact he’s working hard against you so it’s pointless trying to reason with him. Wave him goodbye - you’ll thrive without him.

Totalwasteofpaper · 13/09/2023 22:48

Serious sympathy.

No proper advice other than do NOT give up your job.

Interesting your DD is 6 and you remember mat leave so viscerally. Clearly a long time coming.

Zanatdy · 13/09/2023 22:48

It’s always because they have to do some chores when they start getting nasty. That’s what it boils down to. You’re not trapped as there’s help out there to leave if you’re unhappy. Children adapt. Life is short, don’t waste yours being unhappy

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:49

@LouLou198
so sorry you’re experiencing similar.
I think that men internalise their misogyny and don’t even always realise how much higher the standard that society sets for women are so unfair when compared with men.
My DH organising his work so that he can
puck DD from school each day seems him a hero in society’s eyes and me a villain for doing EVERYTHING in and out of the house to keep everything running.
it’s such a trap. One that I’ll be warning it DD about.

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Pinkbonbon · 13/09/2023 22:52

I'd actually suggest that he is slagging off you for your job because he thinks if you quit, it'll be much harder to leave him.

Which, you should do. And you can do. Stop telling yourself otherwise. It might take a little time, it might be a struggle for a while...but you can do it.

Start making plans.

ZadocPDederick · 13/09/2023 22:54

I suggested that finishing the kitchen floor wasn’t really a priority when we have guests staying on Friday.

To be honest, I can't see why making the bed was a priority today if they're not coming till Friday. I know you've said you want to relax tomorrow, but surely your husband could make the bed tomorrow before you get back from work?

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:55

I’ll be unhappy either way, so I may as well stay. This way only I’m unhappy. If I leave, DD will be unhappy too.
Im staying but I’m taking no more shit.

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Mummy08m · 13/09/2023 22:57

He uses a room, a whole room, in your house, to hoard scrap wood?!

Not to mention the way he speaks to you.

I don't think I could live with a man like that. Are you attracted to him...?

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 22:57

ZadocPDederick · 13/09/2023 22:54

I suggested that finishing the kitchen floor wasn’t really a priority when we have guests staying on Friday.

To be honest, I can't see why making the bed was a priority today if they're not coming till Friday. I know you've said you want to relax tomorrow, but surely your husband could make the bed tomorrow before you get back from work?

Perhaps we could have had a conversation along those lines yes but before I knew it, he was attacking my character, messing up the bed I’d just made, telling me I was a bad mother, that I work too much, that I’m a “twat”.

If he’d just apologised and suggested a different idea, things might have been different. As it was, he went full nasty straight away. As he always does. 😞

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Babyroobs · 13/09/2023 22:58

ZadocPDederick · 13/09/2023 22:54

I suggested that finishing the kitchen floor wasn’t really a priority when we have guests staying on Friday.

To be honest, I can't see why making the bed was a priority today if they're not coming till Friday. I know you've said you want to relax tomorrow, but surely your husband could make the bed tomorrow before you get back from work?

I agree. He knew he had the bed to do, it was his job and could have done it at any point before his dad came. If it's not done it's his fault , let him take the responsibility. Also can't see why so much tidying/ doing bins etc was necessary before the cleaner came. I mean yes it can't be hugely cluttered but do cleaners not empty bins? Have to say I've never been fortunate enough to have a cleaner.

Babyroobs · 13/09/2023 22:59

Babyroobs · 13/09/2023 22:58

I agree. He knew he had the bed to do, it was his job and could have done it at any point before his dad came. If it's not done it's his fault , let him take the responsibility. Also can't see why so much tidying/ doing bins etc was necessary before the cleaner came. I mean yes it can't be hugely cluttered but do cleaners not empty bins? Have to say I've never been fortunate enough to have a cleaner.

Sorry I don't mean this to sound like you're at fault , you just seem incompatible. you are a neat person, he's a slob, it's not going to work long term unless you can both compromise a bit.

Pinkbonbon · 13/09/2023 23:01

To be fair though, your daughter will ultimately be unhappy if this is the model she has to base her future relationships on.

Men doing bugger all in the home and calling her mother 'a twat' when she dares ask for a bit of support. Her mother just staying anyway because she thinks it's all she is worth. Or at least, that's how it looks. And in turn, the daughter grows up to feel thats all she is worth too. Shit relationships with shit men.

A little unhappiness now would be better than a lifetime of dating a loser like her father.

Mummy08m · 13/09/2023 23:01

If I leave, DD will be unhappy too.

I've repeated this on MN too many times but I promise you that what you've said there is not necessarily true. In some cases it's the opposite of true and used as an excuse because the alternative is too daunting.

Your dd clearly really loves spending time with you. She happily potters about with you while you do chores. Why wouldn't she be happy with a single mum like that

Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 23:03

I have ADHD which for me manifests in slower processing/ executive functioning skills and in order to host happily and successfully, I need the space that I’m hosting in to be clear of clutter, bad smells and mess.

DH knows this but doesn’t want in anyway to help or support me in an endeavour that is harder for me that it would be for a neurotypical person.

I need to plan ahead, get organised in advance because if I’ve not prepared food/ beds/ outings. When guests arrive my mind literally goes completely blank.

It’s just how I am. I’m happy to do most of the jobs but I’m not happy that DH goes straight into attacking me the minute I express frustration that it always feels as though he takes pleasure in working against me.

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Pumpernickel101 · 13/09/2023 23:05

Statistically that isn’t true, unfortunately.
If only it were.
I’ll take a bit of space from him. See if we can come up with a plan.

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Pinkbonbon · 13/09/2023 23:10

If it FEELS like someone takes pleasure in working against you, it's because THEY DO.

And someone like that is dangerous to be around. Because they mean you harm.

It might not be physical harm...but over time, they will wear you down until you are a shell of yourself. By being unsupportive, undermining, cold and cruel. And it'll be as bad as if he had beaten you. Because you'll still end up broken.

Your gut is screaming at you that this man enjoys bringing you down. Listen to it! And do whatever it takes to get away from anyone like that.

Soozikinzii · 13/09/2023 23:12

You definitely.must not give upyour job .I would make sure your finance are separate and get your head ready to leave.

SisterMichaelsHabit · 13/09/2023 23:12

He's an arsehole. Teaching with ADHD makes you a fucking superhero. Your daughter probably sees you as an amazing role model. Don't take that away from her by giving in to him. He's trying to drag you down to his level.