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Counsellor didn't recognise abuse

158 replies

Superlambaanana · 12/09/2023 09:27

I have recently come out of a 9 year relationship with someone I now believe was emotionally abusive. We did counselling last year and I recorded the sessions on voicememos on my phone. (Not for any sinister reason, and mever told anyone I did this. It was just so I could listen back later to fully absorb the points). At the time we felt the therapy helped. The relationship went on for another 15 months before we broke up finally.

At one of the sessions I said I sometimes felt afraid of him and he blew up in the therapy room. The therapist then suggested we do solo sessions for the next two weeks. I just listened back to my solo session and it is so glaringly obvious to me now that I was in an abusive, controlling relationship.

I told her numerous stories in that solo session about how he went mad if I didn't immediately agree to what he said. That I had made massive changes in my life as a result of him making nasty comments about me (I stopped drinking and smoking, lost weight, moved because he wanted to etc etc). That he shut me down by shouting in my face in a really scary way if I tried to talk about any issues. That once he'd calmed down I was always expected to never mention the issue/ row again.

And I told her I was afraid of being alone and that was pretty much the only reason why I stayed with him, but I also felt he pushed me to be a better person by forcing me to do things to improve myself.

She asked me why I said I was scared in the previous session - did I feel he would be violent? and when I said no, I'm afraid when he shouts in my face and I'm afraid I'll be trapped forever in a miserable relationship, she said "well he and I assumed you meant violence when you said you are frightened. That's why he blew up. You should have put it differently last week and you need to think about how you say things' FFS!

This wasn't some two bit, barely trained counsellor. She owned a large counselling company and we paid a premium to have her as one of the most experienced relationship counsellors in the area.

I know that doesn't mean she's not useless. But honestly aren't these people trained to sniff out abuse. I honestly think if she had probed a bit more perhaps I would have woken up to the bleeding obvious and got out far sooner!

I feel like reporting her! But obviously I can't reveal I have it all on tape!

Advice?

OP posts:
RandomForest · 15/09/2023 20:31

Your not going to report me are you, for pointing out a different point of view, are you ?

RandomForest · 15/09/2023 20:31

You're

N3philim · 16/09/2023 05:54

Sorry OP, but if we have reached the point where you call people abusers just because they disagree with you then I am wondering if you were ever interested in genuine opinions.

Automaticforthepeople · 16/09/2023 08:26

Just echoing that expressing legitimate feelings of fear doesn’t mean suggesting there has been physical violence.

Physical violence is not the only thing that can cause feelings of fear, and it is not the only type of abuse.

How the counsellor approached things strikes me as victim blaming, which is totally unacceptable.

The OP’s ex is the only one responsible for his actions.

I have found this YouTube channel incredibly helpful and validating in recovering from narcissistic/emotional abuse:

m.youtube.com/@LookingBehindtheMirror/search

There are videos on blame-shifting and couples therapy.

IMO all therapists/counsellors should be trained to recognise and deal with abuse, particularly couples therapists.

Superlambaanana · 16/09/2023 09:50

Thanks.

OP posts:
Superlambaanana · 16/09/2023 09:59

N3philim · 16/09/2023 05:54

Sorry OP, but if we have reached the point where you call people abusers just because they disagree with you then I am wondering if you were ever interested in genuine opinions.

It's unacceptable to disagree with a poster who, apropos of nothing to evidence their accusations, accuses me of being the abuser and also that I deserved to be abused because I didn't speak when I was being abused (I was giving him the silent treatment apparently)? 🙄

OP posts:
Dolores87 · 16/09/2023 10:17

Quitelikeit · 12/09/2023 10:43

I can sort of see her point - if the man was never violent to you it is a big deal to openly suggest that he is

Being called a women beater is not great

They both interpreted what you said the same way - which I think is a misunderstanding

Dont go after the woman? Call her and tell her at least and see what she says

Not sure it is helpful to be ruminating in this one thing either

Umm she didn't openly suggest he is.

She said she was afraid of him. Which she is.

Eskimal · 29/09/2023 19:41

Quitelikeit · 12/09/2023 10:53

Yes and it was a misunderstanding whether you like it or not!

Can people not have a misunderstanding in your orbit @Sucette

Unless you prefer to believe the therapist was being deliberately malicious- but why would she?!

Wow. Just wow!your comment is horrid. A good counsellor would’ve acted there and then to clarify any misunderstanding. No person has a right to explode because they’ve chosen to misinterpret something. A normal rational person would explain they’re upset in a calm voice and ask for clarification.
It’s completely obvious the guy exploded … he wanted to detract attention away from the truth that he was aggressive and emotionally abusive.

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