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Oh dear lord I need to vent!

113 replies

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 14:55

Long time user and poster, but have NC to avoid outing. Though, I'm sure some of the story will be outing anyway!

I have been with DP 10 years. Some of that time has been a bit grim, some really great, mostly Ok. For the most part we make a good team.

DP has had a dog since it was a pup - it was 9 when we met, so we are now the custodians of a very old dog. DDog has dementia, as is to be expected. He also struggles to walk any more than a few metres, and has accidents in the house if we are not on hand to let him out - 1s and 2s. He is 'healthy' just old.

So, the last five years at least we have done nothing, for fear of DDog passing while left alone, of falling and being unable to get back up (this stresses him out). More recently he has had a couple of seizures, from which he recovers.

I don't think, in the last 6 months at least, either of us has had a full nights' sleep. My DP comes to bed very late (after midnight most nights). I go to bed by 10.30pm as I get up for work around 5.45am. I also have an auto-immune disease that causes awful fatigue, but at a level I'm now used to, so can function with. Just.

Recently tensions have been high. We are both tired. I try not to snap but I get snapped at, not helping out properly or doing things right, sighing if I'm fed up. I'm not innocent, I know, and me 'fighting back' is relatively new for our relationship. When I do he tells me not to let my emotions ruin things, and, grossly, not to 'get moist' over things.

DDog picked up fleas at the in-laws (they knew they had a flea problem but didn't think to tell us). We didn't notice for a week until, it seemed quite suddenly, DDog was covered in black gritty bits - flea poop. This was the Saturday night, so on the Sunday I went out and got loads of shampoo, some frontline, flea combs, etc., and £75 later spent over an hour shampooing DDog, combing him, getting him clean, then drying him and applying the treatment. Well, that was all good until a couple of days later "you didn't do his tail". No, I didn't - I must have been too concerned with the rest of him. "He still has some under his chin". He didn't when I'd washed him. Turns out, in the week between visiting the in-laws and us noticing, we have an infestation. So I got spray for the house, which we've used.

Last night was it for me. I went to bed around 9.30pm, I was shattered. For two hours all I heard was DP moaning at the dog for whining (the dementia causes this and there is nothing that stops it). He put him out, brought him in, shouted (not loud, more just raised voice), and the cycle continued. Come 11.30pm ish, DP went into the spare room (we are in a bungalow, wooden floors, this room is next to bedroom). He dropped something. Yes it was accidental, but I sighed, I hadn't had any sleep. Well, that was it, he was going to go out for a drive, not have me sighing at him, he didn't give a f**k what I thought. I got up, went into living room, said it's not a good idea for you to go out. He went, came back around midnight. Then he starts combing the dog. Lots of fleas, alive and dead, starts hoovering, says he's going to shampoo him. By this time it's 00:30, I said I'm going to sleep in the car. I'm 38, earning a good salary and in a good job, and slept in the back of my car. I got a couple of hours eventually. Went in at 5.30am. Ready to leave at 6.30am. He has ripped up a carpet (that was going anyway) and sprayed everywhere with white spirit. Says he was able to work late "like he did before we met" because I wasn't in the house and he didn't have to worry about waking me up.

No, I wasn't in the house. Because I was in the back of my car (seats down so it was ok space wise), on the driveway.

We are both tired, I get that. But I just feel like I am totally coming second to DDog. I get that, too - DP has had him in his life 19 years. I just don't feel important enough. I don't feel like any kind of priority to him. I would never, ever expect him, or let him, sleep in the boot. He could have done all of that today while I'm out at work. I am exhausted today and have done next to nothing in the office.

I don't want to go home.

OP posts:
Summerhillsquare · 17/07/2023 15:17

Mmm it's sounding stressful. Is DP open to discussion about the longer term plan for the dog, and indeed, the lives you're not living because of dog's health?

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 15:23

Thank you for reading my essay!

We have discussed what is, or isn't, right for the dog, and are on different pages. I have to respect DPs wishes and won't be raising the subject again, however much I disagree.

When we talk about life post-DDog, it is always about what he will be able to do, mates he wants to see.. very rarely is it 'couple' things. I just don't feel like I factor anymore, but if I say that I'm just letting my emotion get in the way..

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Cherrysoup · 17/07/2023 15:28

You will need to re-spray and hoover/repeat a few times to ensure all fleas are gone. If the dog isn't in pain or suffering, I would be reluctant to put to sleep, but the whining and incontinence are rarely the sign of a happy pooch.

ladymuckofthemanor · 17/07/2023 15:30

Sounds like the dog needs to be put to sleep tbh. Doubly incontinent, can't walk, distressed. You know what they say 'better a day early than a day late' and it sounds as though it's way past that stage.....

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 15:31

Yep, got more home spray and some fog bombs on the way..

I totally agree, but honestly if you met him you'd see he's not a happy dog. He still eats, but if it's not in his bowl, he can't, it's like he's forgotten how to pick things up, so everything gets mushed with water. We also give him melatonin to try and help with the sun-downing anxiety.

I can just about handle DDog, it's the reaction and actions of DP that are really getting to me. When it's just me and DDog in the house he is fine, will stay on his bed or sit in the kitchen if that's where I am. I can't handle the late night moaning and noise that comes from DP reacting to DDog! Argh! And I feel for DP, he's home with him all day, but DDog sleeps for most, if not all, of that!!

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VimFuego101 · 17/07/2023 15:32

The dog sounds very unhappy. Have you looked at a quality of life assessment such as journeyspet.com/pet-quality-of-life-scale-calculator/?

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 15:32

Sadly not my decision, he's DPs dog and he's already said an absolute no, we can't even talk about it. His view is all the while he's eating he's ok, and when he stops eating he'll slip away (so, starve to death??).. It's so hard.

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PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 15:33

Thanks, not seen that before. Sadly no point showing it to DP, he has made his mind up

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Fizzadora · 17/07/2023 15:37

I would be moving out. Today.

HappyJunkie · 17/07/2023 15:41

Fuck me, I would dump them both. That is just no way to live.

Beamur · 17/07/2023 15:44

Hugs.
The dog is more than a dog - it's a whole chunk of his life too.
Frankly it sounds like the dog doesn't have much time left - and your DP is putting his owns needs first - but it's not a conversation he's ready to have.
I think you're all probably very tired and stressed. I wouldn't read too much into his behaviour right now, he knows the dog is on borrowed time and is lashing out, I'd guess it's a kind of anticipatory grief.

AtrociousCircumstance · 17/07/2023 15:48

Your husband is a nasty fucking idiot. To you, and to the poor dog who is obviously not having any kind of quality of life.

Selfishness all round. Your OP made me angry. He doesn’t care about his dog - just his attachment to him.

And his behaviour towards you is abysmal.

I would not be able to tolerate someone who behaved like that to me and his treatment of his dog is unforgivable.

SeulementUneFois · 17/07/2023 15:53

Move out.
And then make it permanent.

Rainbowshine · 17/07/2023 15:54

I don’t like how your DP is treating you, we all have adversity and stress and occasionally get tired and snappy but it’s even more important to be sure of being polite and respectful if you know you’re feeling that way. He’s not apologetic or even contemplating what impact this is having on you!

I think you need to consider whether you want to tolerate this or not, because even when dog dies, I don’t think his behaviour will change. He’ll then blame his grief for it. This is not a man that owns and takes accountability for his actions, he consistently blames you.

Are you able to spend a couple of nights away, at family, friends or even a hotel? If you get some sleep you can think about things more clearly and see how you feel.

How easy would it be to leave? Are you financially tied up in joint mortgage etc? I think if I were you I’d be looking at a plan for that, at the very least.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 17/07/2023 15:55

The dog and your DH is one thing .

He does sound completely distracted by the whole matter. (He isn't thinking of you - but it is a time of crisis for a being who has long been important in his life. You are unhappy but not in danger perhaps.)

The dog's life won't last much longer - whatever your DH does or doesn't do. (I agree that once dog is doubly incontinent and not able to walk - being put to sleep seems like mercy.)

However - you need to be able to sleep and rest. You both do.

Have you tried ear-plugs? I struggled with sleep in hospital (dangerous feel to it and random noises all night) and found them fantastic. I wore one and had my other ear in the pillow (wearing two plugs made my head feel too full of my own heartbeat). Otherwise - white noise? You need something to cover the crashes and cries!

Pixiedust1234 · 17/07/2023 15:56

Oh dear God. Hes abusing you and he's abusing the dog. He's a cruel cruel man.

I see he didn't bother going out to buy, paying for, or treating his dog. Leave him. And report him to the RSPCA for animal cruelty.

BTW...is the sprayed everywhere with white spirit dangerous to dogs, or just the fumes?

And your health will be better without this stress. Autoimmune conditions can be triggered by it (something I've learnt recently).

FictionalCharacter · 17/07/2023 15:56

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 15:32

Sadly not my decision, he's DPs dog and he's already said an absolute no, we can't even talk about it. His view is all the while he's eating he's ok, and when he stops eating he'll slip away (so, starve to death??).. It's so hard.

It’s an absolute misconception that an animal isn’t suffering if it’s eating. Complete nonsense. And at the same time he moans at the dog in a “raised voice”.
He’s in denial about the dog’s condition. I’m guessing he hasn’t talked to the vet?
Apart from that he’s being absolutely vile to you. This is a terrible relationship.

goody2shooz · 17/07/2023 15:59

@PopOrStop it definitely looks like you are a poor second to the dog, and his after-dog plans which don’t include you, would have me packing my bags. Seriously - five WHOLE YEARS of doing nothing in case the dog dies? This is nuts. Leave now and get a proper life.

Tidsleytiddy · 17/07/2023 16:02

I’d be fucked if I’d sleep in my car because of all this fuss over a dog. It’s not normal

Cuppachino · 17/07/2023 16:13

I'm not innocent, I know, and me 'fighting back' is relatively new for our relationship. When I do he tells me not to let my emotions ruin and things ,and grossly, not to 'get moist' over things.

Does this 'fighting back' mean just having an opinion? His attitude towards you with those comments is disgusting.

Azaeleasinbloom · 17/07/2023 16:17

I feel sorry for you, but even more so for the dog. 19 years with a dog is unusual. I know the average varies by breed but across them all is possibly 13? 14?

It is concerning that your DP is not seeing this and has not had a vet assess him ( if I am reading this correctly)? I realise that you are not in a position to influence that outcome.
Either way, your partner does not sound like a nice person to be around. So if it were me, I would be packing my bags.

Stigsmother · 17/07/2023 16:23

So he seriously thinks that letting the poor dog starve to death is equivalent to him "slipping away"
Shame you can't muzzle DP so he can see what death by not eating feels like 😡

StellaJohanna · 17/07/2023 16:27

I have to say OP, the dog is doing the classic distressed crying with dementia, is incontinent, can have trouble getting safely around - for me it would be time to put him to sleep. With animals, we can make the decision for them at the right time. As people we have to suffer until death with dementia - the poor dog does not!

billy1966 · 17/07/2023 16:28

What an unbelievable thread.

That poor dog.

Both of you at the mercy of that nasty arsehole.

What on earth are you doing wasting your life away.

Unbelievable.

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