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Oh dear lord I need to vent!

113 replies

PopOrStop · 17/07/2023 14:55

Long time user and poster, but have NC to avoid outing. Though, I'm sure some of the story will be outing anyway!

I have been with DP 10 years. Some of that time has been a bit grim, some really great, mostly Ok. For the most part we make a good team.

DP has had a dog since it was a pup - it was 9 when we met, so we are now the custodians of a very old dog. DDog has dementia, as is to be expected. He also struggles to walk any more than a few metres, and has accidents in the house if we are not on hand to let him out - 1s and 2s. He is 'healthy' just old.

So, the last five years at least we have done nothing, for fear of DDog passing while left alone, of falling and being unable to get back up (this stresses him out). More recently he has had a couple of seizures, from which he recovers.

I don't think, in the last 6 months at least, either of us has had a full nights' sleep. My DP comes to bed very late (after midnight most nights). I go to bed by 10.30pm as I get up for work around 5.45am. I also have an auto-immune disease that causes awful fatigue, but at a level I'm now used to, so can function with. Just.

Recently tensions have been high. We are both tired. I try not to snap but I get snapped at, not helping out properly or doing things right, sighing if I'm fed up. I'm not innocent, I know, and me 'fighting back' is relatively new for our relationship. When I do he tells me not to let my emotions ruin things, and, grossly, not to 'get moist' over things.

DDog picked up fleas at the in-laws (they knew they had a flea problem but didn't think to tell us). We didn't notice for a week until, it seemed quite suddenly, DDog was covered in black gritty bits - flea poop. This was the Saturday night, so on the Sunday I went out and got loads of shampoo, some frontline, flea combs, etc., and £75 later spent over an hour shampooing DDog, combing him, getting him clean, then drying him and applying the treatment. Well, that was all good until a couple of days later "you didn't do his tail". No, I didn't - I must have been too concerned with the rest of him. "He still has some under his chin". He didn't when I'd washed him. Turns out, in the week between visiting the in-laws and us noticing, we have an infestation. So I got spray for the house, which we've used.

Last night was it for me. I went to bed around 9.30pm, I was shattered. For two hours all I heard was DP moaning at the dog for whining (the dementia causes this and there is nothing that stops it). He put him out, brought him in, shouted (not loud, more just raised voice), and the cycle continued. Come 11.30pm ish, DP went into the spare room (we are in a bungalow, wooden floors, this room is next to bedroom). He dropped something. Yes it was accidental, but I sighed, I hadn't had any sleep. Well, that was it, he was going to go out for a drive, not have me sighing at him, he didn't give a f**k what I thought. I got up, went into living room, said it's not a good idea for you to go out. He went, came back around midnight. Then he starts combing the dog. Lots of fleas, alive and dead, starts hoovering, says he's going to shampoo him. By this time it's 00:30, I said I'm going to sleep in the car. I'm 38, earning a good salary and in a good job, and slept in the back of my car. I got a couple of hours eventually. Went in at 5.30am. Ready to leave at 6.30am. He has ripped up a carpet (that was going anyway) and sprayed everywhere with white spirit. Says he was able to work late "like he did before we met" because I wasn't in the house and he didn't have to worry about waking me up.

No, I wasn't in the house. Because I was in the back of my car (seats down so it was ok space wise), on the driveway.

We are both tired, I get that. But I just feel like I am totally coming second to DDog. I get that, too - DP has had him in his life 19 years. I just don't feel important enough. I don't feel like any kind of priority to him. I would never, ever expect him, or let him, sleep in the boot. He could have done all of that today while I'm out at work. I am exhausted today and have done next to nothing in the office.

I don't want to go home.

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IWantOutDoI · 19/07/2023 17:14

What a wasted life, honestly OP, you can wait for a month or 3 years for the dog to go, then you will be waiting for him to finish grieving, then you will be waiting for the things to get better, and so on, but looking at how eroded the relationship is already, I think you are waiting for nothing.

You won’t get this time back, the longer you wait to leave, the lower the likelihood that you can rebuild your life after him in a positive way… all that time of being put on the back burner is teaching you that crap relationships are ok, and making it more likely for you to end up in another bad relationship just because it is slightly better than this one.

perfectcolourfound · 19/07/2023 18:34

It reads as though you've had a chat, and both agreed it's you at fault (your illness, you not considering DP's feelings).

What responsibility did DP accept was his? What is he going to do different?

Bovrilla · 19/07/2023 18:39

Swap the dog for a whiny ill toddler.

If he behaves like that with a dog, he'll do the same if you ever had kids.

He's a massive baby, throwing strops. Leave.

PopOrStop · 20/07/2023 08:35

Yes, thinking back he hasn't actually accepted that any of the relationship issues are his fault, or as a result of his actions, at all..

I think, mentally, I am ready now, to walk away. I need to start getting things sorted out.

Thankfully there won't be kids - I can't have them, so no worry of that!

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TorroFerney · 20/07/2023 08:45

WildUnchartedWaters · 17/07/2023 20:11

You sound absolutely lovely.

I agree.very sensible post.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 20/07/2023 09:16

He will give up "trying" within a few days and you'll be back to square one.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 20/07/2023 09:46

I dont think this is about the dog.

Shit happens and sometimes people have to do things in the night that wake someone up. You've got an auto immune disease and you sighed. That's a completely normal reaction from you but his reaction is way OTT. In that situation most people I know would say 'sorry, had to hoover because of x'. Instead he has had a go at you because of a sigh, been happy for you to sleep in the car, blamed your illness (rather than him waking you up), and implied things are better without you around because he can 'stay up late like he used to'. None of this is normal, or healthy, even if he is under pressure because of the dog. Its more than snapping because of lack of sleep. We had a baby that woke up 7x every night and managed to speak to each other with more respect than that.

Thunderisntnicebythebeach · 20/07/2023 10:05

The sad thing is you won't be with ddog when the end does comes op if you leave. But your relationship is over..
He is a selfish man I could never have respect for now.
I imagine he will still be a recluse when ddog is gone. He will have forgotten how to exist without ddog as an excuse to do naff all.

Sandra1984 · 20/07/2023 10:19

I would move out, this is no life to live. Tell him to give you a call once the dog is out of the picture, you might still be single, who knows. He doesn’t sound like a great partner anyway.

Mix56 · 20/07/2023 10:22

This has gone on for 10 years?
I fail to see why this becomes your problem. he could buy & treat the dog & when he failed to eradicate all the fleas, should have repeated the treatment.
I think you should leave him to it.
Go & stay with a friend, get a decent nights sleep,(or several) & he can enjoy being solely responsible for the poor animal that he is treating so badly.
And don't let him turn this round on you, saying you aren't helping take responsibility of family pet etc. You have to go to work, you have your own health problems, you cannot stay up all night, (anyway, apparently he enjoys this).
he has decreed the dog is not being PTS.
He is treating you like shit, but will say afterwards it was grief....
Don't accept being treated worse than a dog

Newestname002 · 20/07/2023 10:53

@PopOrStop

I think I just need to take responsibility for my own happiness and be content with what I can do. If DP wants to come along he is more than welcome, but I can't sit at home just festering "until we can do things" anymore.

Are you considering getting your own accommodation OP? In your situation, with the relationship the way it is now I'd look what homes are available on the market for just you (and the cat?) to move into so you could relax not just physically but mentally too. Perhaps, both you and DP might get on better and feel freer in your own personal spaces and better able to negotiate a happier relationship for the future. It also means you can spread your wings a bit and see more of your own family and friends.

Also having your own home can, surely, not be a bad thing if your relationship didn't work out - and no more sleeping in your car. 🌹

TheoTheopolis23 · 20/07/2023 12:17

Just an aside on the flea front .... I didn't find those flea bombs worked, they can hide from them. And that's a lot of chemicals

I found co stant hoovering, washing anything that can be washed and flea traps (soapy water tray beneath a table lamp left on all night on the floor) worked better.

Plus keep doing the dog obviously.

applebee33 · 20/07/2023 19:29

It would be kinder to put the dog to sleep with the quality of life you both have. Sounds so stressful

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 09:00

I have had a look at a couple of properties online, it just feels so heartless to leave at such a hard time, but then, is he making it hard on purpose, or because it's a good excuse to use to not go anywhere.. I feel so stuck!

Still, treated myself to a haircut yesterday and will take myself out for lunch tomorrow, so it's not all bad - I'm starting to feel better about standing on my own two feet

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SeulementUneFois · 21/07/2023 09:10

OP

Don't fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy.

Consider it the first day of the next stage in your life.
Where noone will make you sleep in your car.

goody2shooz · 21/07/2023 11:53

@PopOrStop and that’s the difference between you right there - ‘it seems so heartless to leave at such a hard time’. For a man who’s put your lives on hold for 5 years, who is fine with you sleeping in your car even with your health problems. If he loved you as much as he loves his dog, you’d have a relationship, but coming way down the line after a dog?? I’m glad you value yourself and your health more than this miserable, callous little man. Leave asap, and I bet your health improves no end. Get a life - you deserve it!

biscuits777 · 21/07/2023 12:44

Leaving at a hard time? It's been 6 years. He's had plenty of time to come to terms with losing his dog. Once an animal becomes incontinent it's kinder to put to sleep. He's an asshole to you, and to the dog.

I think you'll find your illness improves once you've no longer got the stress of a shitty partner and forced lack of sleep.

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 13:48

So todays drama is that the cat hissed at him when he stroked him. He's said the cat doesn't fit, he's feral.. He never does these things when I'm in th ehouse.

I just don't want to go home from work today

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MentholLoad · 21/07/2023 13:54

it sounds like 1) the dog hasnt got decent quality of life and should be PTS and 2) you should leave your boyfriend, he sound unreasonable/chaotic/mean

WildUnchartedWaters · 21/07/2023 14:04

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 13:48

So todays drama is that the cat hissed at him when he stroked him. He's said the cat doesn't fit, he's feral.. He never does these things when I'm in th ehouse.

I just don't want to go home from work today

Is the cat yours?

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 14:23

Well, we got DCat as a couple but yes, he's mine more than DPs

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Opentooffers · 21/07/2023 14:43

When you'd rather drive around than go straight home after work, or indeed, not want to leave work and go home at all, it's basically time to call a relationship quits.
You've not done yourself any favours by putting your own life on hold for the last 5 years.
Your condition has finally made you realise that life is for living. It's his dog, his responsibility, so for him to sort. The flea issue he should of dealt with totally rather than criticising what you did. Also on this I would say that most responsible dog owners have a regular monthly flea treatment plan set up with their vet so that fleas don't get hold in the first place. I'm surprised he has never had this in place and just had a reactive approach. If your house is overrun with fleas within 2 weeks, it shows they have been on the dog a lot longer than the visit to the inlaws. It takes a couple of months of flea treatment to get all the fleas killed as they are immune to treatment at certain points in their life cycle, so do not expect one treatment will work (and it should be a lifetime continuous thing anyway).
It looks like you have a man who is all about the emotion, but stumbles at being responsible or putting any effort in, whether that's for the dog, or you.
Just do your own thing, take a holiday and go out with your friends, no need for him to hold you back, there never was a need, I'm surprised you've done nothing about it for 5 years !!

WildUnchartedWaters · 21/07/2023 14:49

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 14:23

Well, we got DCat as a couple but yes, he's mine more than DPs

Oh dear.

I suspect he is playing games. My pet and your pet etc etc. If the dog goes the cat goes.

I was sympathetic to him at the start of this thread but that has evaporated.

PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 15:02

I would love to just go home and for the house to be empty. I think he knows. Usually he would start an argument about DCat, today I just said can we not start this cycle off again and so far it's not been mentioned again. But I'm not home yet! I think he can feel the distance between us, too.

Yep I do think there's a lot of game playing sometimes. I used to try and be so supportive and empathetic, over the years though I've noticed I've become colder towards hi, and I've felt bad for that!

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PopOrStop · 21/07/2023 15:03

Re the monthly treatment - yes, DCat has a subscription for fleas/ticks and worms.

DDog has never had any flea treatment since I've known him (until now)..

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