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I think I might be done.

101 replies

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:17

So this might be a bit of a long one, and for that, I apologise.

My partner and I have been together for nearly 10 years now. Bought a house 5 years ago. We hadn't lived together prior to this, though we did basically live in one another's pockets for the time leading up to moving in.

He was amazing to start with, and I had just got out of an emotionally abusive relationship, so when we first started talking and seeing each other, I really felt he was very special. He treated me very kindly, made me feel listened to and cared for and we had an amazing time getting to know one another. We both still lived at home at the time, but any moment we could, we would spend it staying over at each other's houses and things like that. No issues what so ever. But over time, I started noticing some things.

Temper - He has a short temper. He has broken cooking utensils before and broke down due to food he has prepared being burned or not satisfactory to his standards. When we first got together, he tried taking part in one of my hobbies but because he couldn't do it, he threw a bit of a wobbler and really embarrassed himself. I tried to cut him some slack as we were newly dating but looking back on it, it was a red flag I should have picked up on. If something doesn't go as he planned, he can't handle it. He sulks and pouts and generally makes the atmosphere awful.

Sensitive - He is so highly sensitive, to the point it is crippling our relationship. Some examples of which include him accidentally hurting me while kissing/hugging me, I say ow, and he has a strop saying 'I can't even hug/kiss you right without you getting hurt!'. I can't bring up issues with him as he takes it all as an attack (even if I start by saying this isn't an attack on his character, just something we need to talk about), so a lot of things wrong with the relationship are left to fester because I mentally can't take what happens when I bring things to the fore. He cries and says I am calling him a shit person and when he cries, I can't carry on discussing the problem because I feel bad I've upset him so much. The most awkward has been during sex, when I have tried to guide his hand or help him out with something, he gets offended and says I've killed the mood and that he can't carry on because I'm 'taking over for him'. He once told me to use a toy, which I did, then he got upset that I was 'having fun without him' even though he had many opportunities to get involved. He thinks everything I say and do is passive aggressive towards him, and makes me out to be some kind of tyrant in the house because of it. Basically, I have been walking on eggshells for the past few years for a silent life. Our sex life is dead because of this, but also because of...

Hygiene - I have high standards of cleanliness and personal hygiene, but only try to hold myself to that. I expect the very basics to be adhered to e.g. cleaning up after yourself, not leaving shit in the toilet/hair clippings on the sink/bedroom surfaces. But he doesn't do that. Every morning I know I have to clean up after him, and again whenever he has made food. Crumbs all over the floor, rotten sink (which he washes the dishes in so I rewash them) full of food, milk all over the place. Things like that. Easily cleared up, but seem like an impossible task for him. I've asked him over and over to please do it, as I end up having to clean up after him before I can even start making myself breakfast, but he never does. He does the dish washing and the bins, but everything else is left to me. I recently left some of the chores aside to see if he would notice, and he didn't. He seems perfectly happy living in a pig sty (which is reflected by his bedroom - we don't share beds due to size differences etc - it has that greasy man smell and there are used tissues all over the place and fingernails etc). He also doesn't shower that often, and the last time we were intimate - approx. 8 months ago - he smelled so bad I dry heaved when I went down there and had to move away. He blamed the smell on my washing drying in the room. It really upset me. I try to present myself well for him, make sure I am washed and clean, yet he really did smell very unpleasant and it really put me off. The fear of him taking down his pants and the scent I might be faced with actually makes me panic a bit.

Money - He earns a lot more than me, but I still pay for half of the mortgage/bills etc. I don't mind that. Fair is fair. But he is such a stinge, he is paranoid about spending to much when he has 1000's in savings in the bank. We live comfortably, having no children, but he acts like we are living in Dickensian times. He is desperate for a new kitchen but won't pay for one unless I go halves with him. Our kitchen doesn't bother me, it looks okay and functions well. Same with the driveway. Everything is micromanaged and penny pinched to the max and it really sucks the fun out of life when I am scared to buy something in case he's wondering why I am paying for say, a new top, when I could be putting that towards the kitchen he wants.

Because I have been withdrawing somewhat, and my confidence low, I have been going back to old hobbies I enjoyed and making friends online (I have no irl friends currently, only workmates), which has been a blessing for me. I've enjoyed getting to explore new, creative things and have been proud of the projects I've completed, yet he has shamed me for them. Made me feel embarrassed for my interests, so I stopped. I registered my interest in taking part in an event where I would have to train and really put my mind to something, but he talked me out of that to, as he told me he was convinced I was doing it to spend less time with him. Which at the time, I wasn't. I wanted to do something I was proud of, but when he spun it like that I thought yeah, maybe I should have done. I've never shamed him for his interests or goals, but he was pretty quick to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed of mine. He's paranoid about me not liking him, and his worries aren't unfounded. I think I am going through a severe stage of the ick with him, and he's squashed me into such a confined space that I feel like I am ready to blow up.

He blames me for all of this, says it's me who has changed. And I think I have changed. While I have floundered and become small in our relationship, at work and in my hobbies I have flourished. He says he thinks I don't spend enough time with him, but who would want to spend time with someone when you're afraid to speak for fear of upsetting them or having them throw a tantrum? I'm scared to be hugged by him in case he does something which hurts me, in case I have to vocalise some discomfort and he cries because he 'can't hug me right'. He's told me I need therapy. I am currently on a waiting list to be seen (neurodivergent, awaiting final diagnosis but we're nearly there!). He's told me this several times, and it's upsetting to hear, when all I am doing is trying to better myself. No matter how many times I say I am on a waiting list, he tells me I should pay (with what money???) and go private. He's called my behaviour and the way I word things 'weird' and 'abnormal' before, which I have recently learned is due to my ND. I know I am not the easiest person around, but I am very lenient and courteous with his issues, but everyone has a limit, and I think I have reached mine. I think he is neurotic and needs help.

It's all just a big mess. I've tried talking to him countless times, asking him if he loves me (he never compliments me or anything, only squeezes my bum and things like that which, yeah... don't make a girl feel good) and he says yes, but won't tell me why if I ask him. I don't think I love him any more. Not in that way. I care for him, but I think everything that has happened has torpedoed what we had going on. I'm not sure I can get that back, and the only way I see we can is if he learns to take constructive criticism which at this point, seems impossible.

I've probably missed loads out, and I'm not sure what I'm even asking for here. But some advice would be nice. My family have told me to leave and go back home to their place, but I am scared. In a recent argument he implied I was just using him at this point for a place to live, which didn't feel good, and called me cruel for not knowing how to progress, that I was keeping him hanging. I often just want to be spirited away elsewhere, and have fantasies of driving off never to be seen again, but I know if I leave, he will have a break down. So I've kind of assigned myself to this life, trapped feeling miserable. You're probably wondering why I am still here, and I honestly don't know other than I keep telling myself I can fix this and live in hope that one day things will change.

Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Fiddlesticks82 · 02/07/2023 17:20

You have just written a novel about how you don’t want to be with this man.

You have answered your own question. At length

Fiddlesticks82 · 02/07/2023 17:21

And he doesn’t sound too happy either so I doubt he will have a breakdown OP

SpringOn · 02/07/2023 17:24

Yup, I would be done too. He sounds awful.

Stratocumulus · 02/07/2023 17:25

Woman up and get out.
Just his personal hygiene issues would be enough for me. Smell equals bacteria! For goodness sake ….
Get out.

pinkyredrose · 02/07/2023 17:25

He sounds like a wanker and your sham of a relationship is a joke and doing you no good.

Sell up, get yourself a place and live happily away from this disgusting manchild.

SophiaElise · 02/07/2023 17:31

Sounds grim. Get out!

Highdaysandholidays1 · 02/07/2023 17:34

I didn't even read the whole thing, I got to the bit about him hurting you whilst hugging/kiss (that's an absolute no, that's abusive, never have I hurt anyone whilst hugging or kissing or indeed been hurt) and then went onto the hygiene, and then just actually felt sick.

Please please go and live a happy life OP, this is not for you.

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:35

I know. I think I am just lost. I don't know how I would cope or what I would do. I've never been in this situation before, and after being told of all the things wrong with me, I just never know if it's me being fussy or stupid. I know that sounds ridiculous, but past relationships and this one have really done a number on me.

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laciport · 02/07/2023 17:36

@Highdaysandholidays1 sorry I don't mean he purposely hurts me. He will accidentally bump my nose or something and he takes that as him being a massive failure if I say ow to being in pain. He doesn't abuse me.

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Highdaysandholidays1 · 02/07/2023 17:37

Also, you can't use up the whole of your one life on this earth trying to stop him having a breakdown. you are a person in your own right who deserves to be happy, not a support person for him like a kind of therapist/pity helper.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 02/07/2023 17:38

@laciport but it sounds like it's happened more than once. I don't think of hugging/kissing as something where 'hurt' occurs. I don't mean he necessarily consciously intends it, but why isn't he more careful not to hurt you? Do you hurt him?

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:39

@Highdaysandholidays1

I've never hurt him that I know of, and if I have, I do apologise. I would be mortified if I did.

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FictionalCharacter · 02/07/2023 17:43

My family have told me to leave and go back home to their place
He’s absolutely horrible. You know what to do and you’re lucky enough to have a family who will help you do it.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 02/07/2023 17:44

I think the idea of going back to your family is a good one, could you do that for a bit and think about things?

Daleksatemyshed · 02/07/2023 17:44

You need to leave him Op. He's controlling you with his sulks and being over sensitive, frankly he's one big red flag. Please open your eyes and see him for who he really is, it's emotional abuse

Stirredandconfused678 · 02/07/2023 17:45

I’m afraid it’s the standard Mumsnet question op; do you want to have children with this man?And if you haven’t already; I’d say all of the things you mention - the stress, the irritability, the poor communication, the mess are all going to be magnified times a hundred once you procreate? Get out now while the going is good!

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:45

Yeah, my Mum has been amazing through this and has offered me her spare room. I came very close to taking her up on her offer for a few days the other week but I chickened out. I'm afraid of upsetting people and swallowed what I wanted to say. I know I need to grow a spine. I'm getting there. I just feel like I need that one last push. This can't go on forever. I will literally lose my mind and be on my death bed regretting it all.

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laciport · 02/07/2023 17:46

@Stirredandconfused678

Luckily, I do not want children and am sterile, so we don't have that issue there. Theoretically though, no, I wouldn't have children with him.

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LaffTaff · 02/07/2023 17:47

You clearly don't love him (and it sounds as though he strongly suspects you don't) so end the relationship. Be honest and tell him you don't love him. It sounds as though you want to mould him into your ideal, and that's not how relationships work.

pinkyredrose · 02/07/2023 17:47

But you're already upset. That's just as important as the fact that anyone might be upset. Can you see that?

You don't deserve this half life you're living, you can be happy again.

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:48

@Daleksatemyshed A couple of people I speak to have mentioned this to me. Is it the sulking and crying that is considered emotional abuse? I did do some reading and saw something called covert narcissism. It seemed to fit how I see him but I don't know if that is because I am seeing him negatively atm.

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tsmainsqueeze · 02/07/2023 17:48

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:35

I know. I think I am just lost. I don't know how I would cope or what I would do. I've never been in this situation before, and after being told of all the things wrong with me, I just never know if it's me being fussy or stupid. I know that sounds ridiculous, but past relationships and this one have really done a number on me.

You are already coping , read back what you have told us , you do everything anyway.
Please get away from this repulsive man , he will never change , there is a world out there with so many possibilities , if he wants to live in his own cess pit that's his choice but he has no right dragging you into it too.
I doubt very much that he will have a breakdown he's saying that just to keep you there.

pinkyredrose · 02/07/2023 17:48

LaffTaff · 02/07/2023 17:47

You clearly don't love him (and it sounds as though he strongly suspects you don't) so end the relationship. Be honest and tell him you don't love him. It sounds as though you want to mould him into your ideal, and that's not how relationships work.

What a total lack of understanding you're displaying.

laciport · 02/07/2023 17:51

@LaffTaff I suppose I don't love him as I once did, no. I love what he was, and I'm not trying to mould him into anything. He is free to do as he pleases. I put no pressure on him to act or do anything he doesn't want to do. All I ever asked for was hygiene, cleanliness, understanding and open communication. Basics in a relationship.

Thanks to everyone else replying btw. I appreciate it. Makes me feel less alone. I need the tough love. My family have been very kind about it so I figured MN would be the place to help me give my head a good shake.

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Highdaysandholidays1 · 02/07/2023 17:51

Also, he's moaning all the time that you aren't right, emotionally upsetting and 'hurting' you (which I can't get over). So, take him at his word and leave.

I think you've lost confidence due to your past relationship and now this man running you down, I feel like he lured you in and then treated you badly. you are by far the more emotionally mature, nicer and developed of the two of you, so really he's just looking for things to complain about.

I agree this is deathbed regret stuff, call your mum and start the process of moving out and on, you sound so sensible and lovely and he just doesn't deserve you, I mean he stinks for starters, just have the courage to make that leap.