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Found out FIL donated sperm 30-40 times, feeling unsettled

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SleepBetter · 25/06/2023 18:57

My OH recently found out that many decades ago, before he was born, his dad donated sperm... possible 30-40 times, and never told OH. He was young and it was a way of earning extra cash. We found out because someone has been in touch claiming to be one of the donor-conceived children.

This has really unsettled me. I think sperm donation is a very generous thing to do if you've thought it through carefully, but 30 times for cash is unethical. I can see current rules are that sperm from one person can't be donated to more than 10 families, but I don't know what the rules were back then.

I am currently pregnant with our first baby. I'm upset to think OH could be one of a large number of genetic siblings, and that our baby could have a large number of half-cousins. They will never know if someone they meet could be a genetic relative.

I'm just struggling to get my head around it all. How would you feel? Am I over-reacting? Conscious pregnancy hormones might also be playing a role.

OP posts:
Laurdo · 25/06/2023 19:45

There's more to family than genetic and I think it's silly to think of any donor kids as family.

I've donated my eggs before I would never think of any children born from my donation as my family. I'm just glad that I've potentially been able to give someone else a family.

MeinKraft · 25/06/2023 19:46

Don't become one of those pregnant woman who makes everything about her.

Smallyellowbird · 25/06/2023 19:54

I can see why you're concerned, but as others have said, the risk is so very low that your children would meet and have children with a half-cousin. Pregnancy hormones could really magnify the risk.

Must be very disconcerting for your husband to think he may have so many half-siblings. Can your father in law contact the clinic to find out how many births there were? And is there a register he can go onto in case a child of his wants to contact him?

CovertImage · 25/06/2023 20:01

thefirstmrsrochester · 25/06/2023 19:25

Are you for real?

They're probably from Walton's Mountain

drpet49 · 25/06/2023 20:01

bellac11 · 25/06/2023 19:31

Your 'own emotions'?

About what, it isnt anything to do with you except for supporting your OH through whatever emotions he has about having perhaps siblings.

This.

SarahAndQuack · 25/06/2023 20:05

truthhurts23 · 25/06/2023 19:19

ew
i think its dangerous not knowing who your blood relatives are , thats how inbreeding happens , maybe in the future i would encourage your dc to do dna testing before relationships

No, that isn't how inbreeding happens. I can see how, theoretically, it could be. But statistically, people marrying or having children with close relatives is almost always something that happens in the context of knowledge. It's cousins marrying cousins in contexts where this is normalised, or (sorry to say) it's abuse by relatives.

It is far, far, far, far more rare for people to unknowingly meet genetic siblings or cousins and end up in relationships with them. I do get why it's a real worry, in a changing world, but I think it's really important to get the facts right.

SleepBetter · 25/06/2023 20:06

Thanks for those who posted empathetic replies. I'm going to un-watch this thread now there is a consensus as I feel there is a bit of unnecessary MN bashing going on. I'll take on board the comments and leave it there.

OP posts:
darkmodeon · 25/06/2023 20:06

Did he donate in the same area in which you now live?

Cattenberg · 25/06/2023 20:13

SleepBetter · 25/06/2023 19:25

Thanks everyone. I hear the consensus. I wouldn't say it's 'none of my business' though and appreciate it's a bigger deal for OH - I am supporting him separately, but have my own emotions to process too and this post was about those.

I agree that you’re allowed your own feelings and to work through them. You’re not “dumping in” by leaning on your DH and his parents, you’re “dumping out” by sharing them here and that’s fine.

Did all this happen in the UK? If so, and if FIL wants to find out how many children were born as a result of his donations, he could try writing to the HFEA. They might not have any information dating back that far, as laws on donor anonymity were different back then, but it’s worth asking.

By the way, donating 40 times is very unlikely to have resulted in 30+ children. Some donors don’t actually father any children as a result of their donations, and many only father one or two.

Cattenberg · 25/06/2023 20:19

And is there a register he can go onto in case a child of his wants to contact him?

It sounds as though there is:

https://www.hfea.gov.uk/donation/donors/rules-around-releasing-donor-information/

Rules around releasing donor information | HFEA

https://www.hfea.gov.uk/donation/donors/rules-around-releasing-donor-information/

caringcarer · 25/06/2023 20:42

truthhurts23 · 25/06/2023 19:19

ew
i think its dangerous not knowing who your blood relatives are , thats how inbreeding happens , maybe in the future i would encourage your dc to do dna testing before relationships

Yes I think I'd do this too.

Dery · 25/06/2023 21:39

My DH donated sperm 8-10 times in the 1980s after Mary Warnock gave a talk on the massive shortage of sperm donors for couples who wanted to go through IVF and needed donations. I’ve never thought it was anything but a good thing. However, there were careful parameters around it including on the number of times you could donate to exclude as far as possible the possibility of half-siblings unwittingly meeting and having their own children. It’s a risk that reputable clinics are very aware of.

ZebraDilemma · 26/06/2023 02:08

truthhurts23 · 25/06/2023 19:19

ew
i think its dangerous not knowing who your blood relatives are , thats how inbreeding happens , maybe in the future i would encourage your dc to do dna testing before relationships

As John McEnroe would say ‘You cannot be serious’ 🙄

HoppingPavlova · 26/06/2023 03:10

Massive overreaction. In my day all of the guys at uni donated prolifically as it was how they got their drinking money🤣. Not aware of any issues.

ZekeZeke · 26/06/2023 03:38

You are totally overreacting, possibly hormones as you are pregnant.

Nicecow · 26/06/2023 04:04

truthhurts23 · 25/06/2023 19:19

ew
i think its dangerous not knowing who your blood relatives are , thats how inbreeding happens , maybe in the future i would encourage your dc to do dna testing before relationships

This. I can't believe people are saying you're overreacting!! There's a reason they don't allow this in professional clinics. Ew and ew. My only advice would be, it's can't be undone but yes it will be something your children will need to consider when they are older

DoughnutDreams · 26/06/2023 04:15

Was he at university? I think it was much more common in the early days, especially amongst science/medical students. My university still has a poster up looking for donors, though obviously with more strict guidelines now.

user1492757084 · 26/06/2023 04:41

You should be afforded your feelings, which could be strong and very personal.
As long as you keep your children informed of the liklihood that they could date a biological cousin there is nothing else you can do. Don't leave your children ignorant.
They might want to ask if their partners are a result of donor sperm before they become truly invested.

You could talk about what would happen should a donor sperm sibling contact your family. There is no legal reason to socialise or communicate in any way. It is your decision.

Nicecow · 26/06/2023 04:44

Have a look at "Our Father" on Netflix an extreme example but useful to see something regarding this kind of thing

Nicecow · 26/06/2023 04:45

Reugny · 25/06/2023 19:39

Unlikely.

Actually very likely if you can do basic maths, not to mention that's how many times he's donated, not how many inseminations/conceptions there were

PinkNailpolish · 26/06/2023 06:05

YANBU! I'd worry about my child accidentally sleeping with a first cousin whose parent was conceived via sperm donor. Many might not know they were conceived via sperm donor or they might not share this info with their children.

People in this thread might not think there's anything wrong with having sex with cousins but the idea of it makes me feel ill.

Channellingsophistication · 26/06/2023 06:15

I think in your shoes I’d be surprised at this knowledge but I think to have “emotions”about it is overreacting. I thought it was all anonymous back then.

countvoncount · 26/06/2023 06:16

@Laurdo I agree with you!
OP you're fully entitled to feel how you feel, but FIL wouldn't have been the only person to have done this, I have donated eggs, never even for one minute consider it other than being a generous gesture.
For those saying "ew"...... consider the joy this man has brought into peoples lives

Nicecow · 26/06/2023 06:24

countvoncount · 26/06/2023 06:16

@Laurdo I agree with you!
OP you're fully entitled to feel how you feel, but FIL wouldn't have been the only person to have done this, I have donated eggs, never even for one minute consider it other than being a generous gesture.
For those saying "ew"...... consider the joy this man has brought into peoples lives

Watch this and then decide if you feel the same "Our Father" on Netflix

ProfessorXtra · 26/06/2023 06:31

Nicecow · 26/06/2023 06:24

Watch this and then decide if you feel the same "Our Father" on Netflix

Is that one about ten doctor who used his own sperm without the woman’s knowledge or consent.

That’s nowhere near the same situation.