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Getting married soon and I've fallen out with in laws

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abs89 · 03/06/2023 14:07

I had my hen do 3 weeks ago and my partners sister got drunk, made the whole night about herself and even sat in front of my mum saying she would have my kids overnight so me and her brother could have sex on our wedding night (we're getting married abroad). Long story short she got home and blamed the drama on their cousin who was also at my hen do and was the one trying to calm her down so the night wasn't ruined. After about a week I'd had no apology or explanation from SIL so my partner called her and said maybe it's worth apologising however he said when he spoke to her about it she wasn't the slightest bit bothered. She sent me a half ass apology text. The kind where its like "apparently I did something I didn't realise so I'm sorry for whatever happened".

Back story. I've never liked his sister. She's a real drama queen, makes everything into a big deal, plays the mental health card over and over and she's a massive liar. She also never takes responsibility for her own actions and blames everyone else. Personally I believe she's a narcissist but that's just my opinion. Despite how I feel about her I've always tried with her for my partners sake. Anyway I replied to her message and said she'd made a fool out of herself and blamed it on everyone else like she always does. I said we were taking space from her and the drama she creates and that her behaviour is toxic and she needs to knock the drink on the head and do some self reflection. She then text my partner saying she wasn't coming to the wedding.

That evening his mum text me having a go and I just told her how this could have all been avoided if SIL had just apologised and that they are enabling her behaviour by never holding her accountable. The next day the SIL blocked me and a few days later the MIL blocks me too. I then left their family group chat (his sister left the morning of the hen do. Just to add she didn't come down for breakfast or say goodbye which I believe is to save face from how she was acting the night before)

My partner doesn't do confrontation. He would rather brush it under the carpet and I'm struggling with that. He isn't going out his way to make conversation with them but he will reply. Yesterday he briefly saw a message from his mum and thought they would be asking to see the kids so he told me he was happy to take the kids alone. Turns out she just wanted a picture of them (she hasn't seen them in over 3 weeks and this is really common for her. She doesn't bother with our kids at all) but it's got me thinking today how shitty it is he's willing to go over there without me with all this going on and just play happy families.

His mum hasn't reached out to him since the hen do and his entire family are acting like nothings happened. They are all blaming the cousin for the drama that night and now I'm the bad guy for upsetting the SIL. I've spoken to my partner about plans going forward but doesn't really wanna talk about it as he's struggling because of the position he's in but we need to figure something out.

So what should I do about the wedding that's literally in 55 days? What happens then because currently his family aren't speaking to me (his mum, dad and sister who are the ones coming. I saw his cousin the other day, we are fine).

My concern is I don't want my wedding day ruined. They've paid to go abroad and to watch us get married but I kinda think well you can still go on your holiday without coming to the wedding. All I can think is how awkward it's going to be. Regardless of SIL there's so much tension between the MIL and myself now especially as she felt the need to block me. I just don't want my wedding day ruined.

My partner says he has my back and he knows what his sister is like. He's even said he isn't bothered if they come to the wedding but I know he's not going to agree if I say I don't want them there. Maybe he will agree I don't know but it's so techy to talk about all this at the minute. Going forward after the wedding I want nothing to do with them but how do I approach the wedding? Like I say it's literally 55 days away.

(sorry its so long)

OP posts:
MumblesParty · 03/06/2023 15:46

Assignedtoworryyourmother · 03/06/2023 14:43

So she was pissed and a bit chopsy and now you have turned this into a massive drama and decided you hate them all. I'm not sure she did anything particularly dreadful and I'm not sure why you feel the need to try to turn this into a 'them or me' situation. Your DP is probably saying nothing because he thinks you are being a raving loon.

This.
I feel bad for your DP. It never ceases to amaze me how readily men are expected to jettison their families on MN, if it suits their partner’s agenda. He might think his sister has many faults, but now he’s not even allowed to have his parents at his wedding.

Snowy2022 · 03/06/2023 15:50

On a more serious note, you cannot seriously be thinking of uninviting them to the wedding or are you? In case you are serious, please don't. it is just wrong and not the best way to start a marriage. Maybe don't get married?! have you considered that?

Also, if you invite your mum to a hen do with younger women who will be drinking no doubt, you take the risk of drunken outbursts or behaviour like this. Yes, hope everyone behaves, but you should factor that in, If you don't want mum to hear absurd things, don't invite your mum along to a hen do on a night out. Maybe make it a picnic in the park during the day!

diddl · 03/06/2023 15:50

I'm guessing that you had to invite her?

Well she made a fool of herself but you don't come out much better.

CeciNestPasUnPipi · 03/06/2023 15:53

I think this whole thing has stemmed from you, @abs89. Yes, your future SIL sounds in-your-face, but I cannot see what she really did that merited the full weight of not only your disapproval, but your judgement about what she should and shouldn't do. That you are entirely unaware of this is quite striking.

DrMarciaFieldstone · 03/06/2023 15:54

Agree that OP is far more dramatic than anyone else in this saga. I wouldn’t want to watch my brother marry someone like this either.

converseandjeans · 03/06/2023 15:55

If that was all she said I think you are over reacting. Your message to MIL was far too dramatic. You insulted the whole family.

I also think it's normal to only see grandchildren every few weeks.

I think you have spoiled your destination wedding tbh as it will be awkward whatever happens now.

Ponderingwindow · 03/06/2023 16:00

OP, your post reminded me of the song in the TV show ‘crazy ex-girlfriend’ where she has an epiphany and starts singing ‘I’m the villain in my own story”. She isn’t truly a villain, but she is self-sabotaging her relationships.

Meeting · 03/06/2023 16:02

To be honest OP you've made yourself look pretty awful in all of this. You're talking about them not going to YOUR wedding. Well it's your fiance's wedding too and he obviously wants his family there.

You hate his sister so you had no reason to demand an apology or send that nasty message. You're not friends anyway so what exactly were you trying to gain?

MzHz · 03/06/2023 16:02

ConcernedCatmother · 03/06/2023 14:23

The fact the mum blocked you is insane, but ultimately you have a husband problem if he isn’t going to stand up for their crappy behaviour. You will be his wife, he is meant to defend you…

I call men like that a man-baby, who say “I don’t want confrontation”……which makes no sense as his mum has already started confrontation by blocking you. So what he really means is he won’t stand up against someone treating you badly.

personally I’d run for the hills and not marry this man-baby, but that isn’t what you want to hear.

Just know, unless things change….this will likely be an ongoing feature of your life.

I’m sorry @abs89 but I agree with this.

mumsnet doesn’t give airmiles or frequent flier points, but if it did you’d end up being a gold card holder with this bloke and his scummy family.

cancel the wedding, give some serious thought about how much shit you want in your life cos that’s all you’re going to get with this mostly bunch.

you can do better. He’s not a real man and won’t ever stand up to them.

Witchbitch20 · 03/06/2023 16:06

So you have never liked your sister in law and found the perfect excuse to cause an unnecessary drama because she got pissed up at your hen night?

Enjoy your wedding, hope it’s worth the agro it’s causing your DP.

2bazookas · 03/06/2023 16:07

She's a real drama queen, makes everything into a big deal

Just get married; you're going to fit right in.

cansu · 03/06/2023 16:08

Sounds like you enjoy drama. There was no need to send the text to his sister or your mil. In your shoes I would have been irritated but would have made a mental note to avoid socialising with her except for family events and forgot about it. You created a big family row because someone was drunk and embarrassing.

AcrossthePond55 · 03/06/2023 16:14

@abs89

When you marry a man you marry his family. Especially if you marry a weak/'can't we all just get along?' man.

If you don't like his family, don't marry the man.

Confused19831983 · 03/06/2023 16:14

I have no idea what the SIL has done to warrant such a nasty response from the OP.

azlazee1 · 03/06/2023 16:21

I think you should take the high road here. Most weddings are a family affair and I would invite all and let them make their choice. Excluding partners family from such a big event in his life, will probably lead to regrets later on. Relax, and enjoy your wedding!

IkeaMeatballGravy · 03/06/2023 16:25

My SIL told me she loved me, but still found it weird that her baby brother was having sex 🤣. Things like that are cringe, but then that's hen parties for you. If that is the worst thing you can think of to give as an example then I can understand why she was confused when confronted but she apologised but that still wasn't good enough for you. If anyone has ruined your wedding it's you and it sounds like your fiance is getting fed up too.

Cherrycola29k · 03/06/2023 16:33

We need the backstory OP.

TheSnowyOwl · 03/06/2023 16:35

Cherrycola29k · 03/06/2023 16:33

We need the backstory OP.

Given how badly the OP has come across in this version, which was clearly written with a view to get everyone reading this thread onside with her, I doubt she will be back because each time she has returned, she has just made herself look worse and worse.

Mari9999 · 03/06/2023 16:38

OP, the sister made a tasteless comment, but u would inquire that at a hen's do it is not uncommon for tasteless sex related comments to be made.

Surely, your mom is aware that you and your fiance have sex, as you have children together. Things can always take a left turn when too much alcohol is consumed.

Your SIL made an apology as requested. It may have been a half hearted apology, but her "offence" was pretty insignificant when taken in context of the occasion. I doubt that your mother thought you to be some Inexperienced virgin heading to your wedding night.

There is a lot of unnecessary drama surrounding this event. Do you really want to have these fractured relationships with your in-laws ? What possible good will come from that?

Coffeeandcake12 · 03/06/2023 16:40

If I was the sil and you sent me that text I would tell you to go fuck yourself and wouldn't go to the wedding. You're the one creating all the drama

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/06/2023 16:45

@changeforachange i meant I would do exactly the same as the SIL has done (ie not go to the wedding) if the bride talked to me so nicely (sorry I was confusing in my comment above as they are both sister in laws to each other) I am putting myself in the drunk sisters shoes

Also, what's so bad about that comment about sex and babysitting? Even if your mum is extremely prudish or strict religious surely the wedding night is the time that people unanimously agree a couple should be able to have sex if they want to

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/06/2023 16:45

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/06/2023 16:45

@changeforachange i meant I would do exactly the same as the SIL has done (ie not go to the wedding) if the bride talked to me so nicely (sorry I was confusing in my comment above as they are both sister in laws to each other) I am putting myself in the drunk sisters shoes

Also, what's so bad about that comment about sex and babysitting? Even if your mum is extremely prudish or strict religious surely the wedding night is the time that people unanimously agree a couple should be able to have sex if they want to

Nastily * not nicely

Passwordsffs · 03/06/2023 16:46

Dery · 03/06/2023 14:47

Unless in-laws are abusive, I would mistrust any person who is trying to make their spouse choose between them and the spouse’s family. I’m sure you’re not abusive but that is the kind of thing abusers do.

Exactly

thedogisstaring · 03/06/2023 16:49

Tiswa · 03/06/2023 15:00

What did you think was going to happen? She got drunk and made a comment to your mum and you then escalated it to that point that you ruined your own weddibg

Completely agree with this.

You already didn't like here and you used a drunken comment to be all high and mighty. Your (sober) reply to her could only have one outcome, to piss off and upset his family.

I'm sorry but we all have an annoying in-law, to some of them you will be that annoying in-law! You just smile and wave for the sake of family peace.

Don't make your DH choose between you and them. And just because you have fallen out with them doesn't give you right to use your children as a weapon and stop their relationship, if your DH wants to take the children to visit without you, that is his right, and by the sound of it probably better all round.

As for the wedding, you either need to all grow up and meet up before to clear the air. Or you suck it and see who turns up on the day.

GCalltheway · 03/06/2023 16:50

Do you want then at the wedding?