Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

One Night Stand/Emotional Affair

107 replies

MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:02

Until recently, my marriage was the thing in my life (apart from my children) that I was most proud of. Married almost 20 yrs to someone I love and trusted implicitly.
we have suffered a huge amount of stress in recent years, and especially in the past year. Most of it, if not all of it, financial.
it’s been tough. Still is. Our sex life has been non existent as I just am too stressed, exhausted and perimenopausal to want it.
Recently my normally loving husband has not been so loving. He has been downright mean at times. I don’t know what made me ask, but last Thursday I saw him on his phone again, and told him, ‘show me your phone.’ He refused and got angry.
He told me he had been slagging me off in his WhatsApp friends group and it was vile.
we were at my parents house and had our son with us so had to drive home silently and angrily. Later that night I asked him again- he point blank refused to show me.
we slept in separate rooms. At 5am I crept into the room he was sleeping in and grabbed his phone.
he woke up and a tussle ensued. I got the phone but couldn’t open it.
At this point our son was up for school and witnessed this argument. Eventually I got the passcode but he had deleted everything on his phone. Photos the lot. I saw one message at 4am to an unknown number. It said I love you.
I made him take our son to school, and I waited.
on his return I asked him to explain.
Lie after lie tumbled out, in order to try and minimise it.
Eventuwlly, I dragged the truth out of him.
He had gone on a work trip 2 months ago and got blind drunk. He had met some woman in the pub and ended up going back to his room with her and had sex.
He says he had had 7 pints before the meal and several whiskies after and was absolutely blind drunk. He didn’t remember anything much except that something has happened.
After a day or so, he got a LinkedIn request from the woman. Now, he knew her name. She had had to do some detective work to find him on linked in based on geographical location and company name.
He refused the request. Then a few days later he contacted her via LinkedIn and asked her what had happened. She filled him in with the details.
He told her he was married and had been drunk and it shouldn’t have happened.
She then started ‘checking in’ with him. ‘Hi, are you ok?’ Etc etc. She suggested moving to WhatsApp and swapping numbers. Then she asked him, ‘what are you into’ and the conversations became sexual. Over the past two months she said that it wasn’t going anywhere so they should stop messaging. He says it was then he started to tell her he was going to leave me, he loved her etc, because he enjoyed rhe messaging. It was an ego boost etc etc.
I rang the woman. I suspected he had coached her on what to say. She said it was a drunken dalliance, nothing more.
I told her to stop contacting him. She agreed.
He blocked her number.
Later that night, I took his phone and unblocked her number. Within 15 minutes. She messaged him. Are you ok?
I pretended to be him.
Youve been online half an hour and didn’t message me? Why? She asked.
’She rang me- I said what we agreed’
I replied- my son is distraught and wife is devastated- it’s been hard here today.
she replied, ‘It’s been awful for me too- because of HER! (Me)
At that point, she got suspicious. I rang her and told her again- stop.
He says he contacted her and told her I would likely call her and to please not say anything that might hurt me more.
So he was STILL lying and attempting to minimise that very morning.
He had arranged to meet her again in the next few weeks at a works do, but told me he had no intention of doing so- he was stringing her along to keep the messages going.
He has been remorseful and upset and our children said they would never forgive him. Our parents and my best friend know and all said that of everybody in the world, he was the least likely to cheat and they cannot believe it.
He has quit his job as I said I would never trust him again on work trips.
we spent four days agreeing to salvage our marriage. He said he absolutely didn’t want this other person who he could barely remember. He is sorry blah blah blah. He has booked counselling. My parents think he has had some sort of breakdown.
We spent four days having sex and trying to carry on as normal. But this made me feel like he is being rewarded in some way for his behaviour. I love him very much but he has totally shattered my heart, my trust, my entire world. We are now back in separate rooms and I just don’t know how to carry on. Any advice really gratefully received.

OP posts:
FartSock5000 · 05/05/2023 15:03

@MarchionessG your marriage is dead and over. You just can't see that yet.

I'm really sorry for you. No one deserves this treatment.

I hope that you can come out of the fog soon and see him for the lying cheat that he is and you go see a really good solicitor to take him to the cleaners.

One day you'll look back on this moment and regret that you gave him more chances.

Also, you should probably get an STD panel done. He's been sticking it in other woman (and there will be more than one over the years) so you don't know if you've caught anything.

Beaverbridge · 05/05/2023 15:03

Stay with him and live happily ever after. Till the next time.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 05/05/2023 15:19

MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 13:01

He says that the woman wasn’t actually interested in sex texting- that was him. She wanted him to say romantic things to her, and he just wanted sex texts. He says he was manipulating her too, and lying to her to get what he wanted which was sex talk.

OP I'm sorry this is happening. But I can't get my head round him saying this to you whilst simultaneously saying he's sorry and apparently really meaning it Confused

You're worth more than that

Starlitestarbright · 05/05/2023 15:24

You got your binkers on op. Nothing anyone says will get you to take them off.

Gymtastic · 05/05/2023 15:31

Oh op, what are you doing. She even told you she said what he told her too. If it was the truth he’d not have to do that and she’d not have to confirm she did to him, you know that, it tells you immediately it’s much more than he’s told you. The I love you’s, the way they talked, shows this was much more.

You’re tying yourself up in knots here. It’s ok to want to stay ,you have your own reasons for pretending to believe this nonsense and blame her. It’s anonymous on here. You can just hide the thread and walk away

lilaco · 05/05/2023 20:24

This is so depressing. Are you actually in this much denial/delusion or just desperate to blame the woman for your husband's cheating?

Or are you hoping someone comes along to disagree with all the constructive, supportive (if candid) advice from women who have lived experience of this, and says "oh yes, he was obviously completely bewitched by this woman's witchcraft and actually was madly in love with and committed to you and your family all along"?!

What example are you showing your daughter (or son!) as to how to react to such disrespectful behaviour?

Buildingthefuture · 06/05/2023 09:18

I’m so sorry that this has happened to you op. In terms of the responses you’ve had, MN can be a funny place sometimes and often doesn’t, in my experience, imitate what happens IRL. IRL, lots of people try again after infidelity and they aren’t condemned and vilified for it like they are on MN.
Infidelity is common. Of course that does not make it acceptable, justifiable or forgivable. It’s shit, a despicable way to treat someone you are supposed to love. But it happens a lot and you aren’t alone. Having watched this play out countless times in both my friendship groups and at work (I work almost solely with men and this shit is rife!!) can your relationship be salvaged? Yes. Will it be? Probably not.
Infidelity seems to have 3 different outcomes. The couple either split, immediately or as a direct result of the affair at some point later. Or, they stay together but the resentment, grief and anger remain and the relationship becomes a toxic disaster. Or, they do the work and rebuild the relationship. But, that isn’t common. Because for that to happen, it takes the person who had the affair to be totally transparent and truthful, take full responsibility for their actions and commit to therapy to work out how the fuck they could do something so vile to someone they claim to love. And that’s the hard bit, the dropping of the “yes I did this…BUT” Most people just cannot or will not do that, they cannot look in the mirror and say “I am disloyal, deceitful and a liar”. They are weak, cowardly people and it’s too hard. So they blame shift, use the script, rewrite history….anything to avoid looking at who they really are. Only you can know whether your H can do the hard bit. And, only you can know if that would be enough for YOU. He might do the work, reform himself and be truly remorseful….but you still might think he’s an untrustworthy arsehole.
Take your time op and make the right choices for you. He made his and they weren’t in your best interest. What he did WAS a choice, not a mistake, it was a series of wilfully shitty, hurtful choices, made by a weak man, desperate for validation and a sad little ego boost. You decide now, not him. And if you decide to see if he can do the work, that’s fine. If you want to fuck him off without a backwards glance, also fine. What I really wouldn’t do is allow him to rug sweep, blameshift or otherwise avoid responsibility for the choices he’s made. I hope it works out for you op, whatever you decide xxxx

New posts on this thread. Refresh page