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Im here for a moan about my miserable DH

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fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:24

Im at my wits end with my miserable DH. I don’t know what I want from this post but need a rant. Its semi lighthearted and Im not looking for pity.

I was watching an interview with Amy Winehouse yesterday. She was talking about her boyfriend and said something like “he bursts every bubble that I blow up”. That really struck a chord with me. Any idea I have, he'll dismiss it, whether its for home improvement - he wont like my suggestion (until time passes and he’ll suggest it like it was his idea in the first place), or holidays – he doesn’t like holidaying abroad.
I holiday abroad with friends regularly.

DH is 67, retired, Im 12 years younger and work FT. We have no mortgage or other debts. We are comfortably off. He has a hobby that we both share (motorcycling) and we enjoy a couple of trips away together doing this each year. Said hobby is one of his pet topics of conversation, but not mine as Im not mechanically minded and don’t have his encyclopaedic knowledge of anything on wheels. He’ll talk at me about oil change frequency or suspension or spark plugs and I just zone out after about 15 minutes of monologue and he’ll get all huffy if when I don’t join in. I’ve told him numerous times that he is fully aware that I have nothing to add to a one sided conversation around something I know nothing about. He wont ask anything or engage in anything I might want to talk about.

Currently he’s spending most of his days watching YouTube. He’s spent most of today watching various men talking about 15 minute cities and how councils in some places are going to restrict peoples lives etc. and is now ranting about the restriction it’s going to have on his life. But it wont, firstly because there are no plans to implement this where we live and secondly because he rarely leaves the house anyway unless its for a bike related trip out somewhere or to go to a supermarket a 5 minute drive away. I’ve told him it’s probably going to turn out to be a load of bollocks anyway and he just started shouting me down and that started a row.

I’ll speak to him or ask him something and get no response. He has no hearing problems. He just doesn’t seem to hear me. Or I’ll start speaking and he’ll start talking over me.

He's permanently miserable and catastrophising if even the slightest thing goes wrong. For example, yesterday a bulb went in one of our kitchen lights, his reaction was “everything’s broken or not working properly in this house”. I asked him to name one other thing that wasn’t working and he couldn’t (because everything’s fine). If I leave a cup and a biscuit wrapper on the coffee table, “this place is a tip”, etc. He’ll sit with his head in his hands, sighing until I ask if he’s ok (he’s always OK).
His mother used to do exactly the same thing, the likeness is uncanny. If he gets ill he’ll never take medication but will moan non stop about his symptoms, for example he gets hayfever but wont use antihistamines, wont take a painkiller if he gets a headache, wont see a dentist if he loses a filling, despite paying for dental insurance!

He has absolutely zero IT skills. However, he’s taken on a voluntary role related to his hobby, and he now expects me to deal with replying to emails (he doesn’t even know how to add an attachment to an email, despite me showing him literally hundreds of times ffs) and update his spreadsheets.

He's a complete scruffbag. I’ve seen better dressed scarecrows. He’ll wear the same clothes for days on end. Everything – undies, socks, t-shirt that he’ll sleep in and then wear all day. He only ever wears the same 2 pairs of jeans. For everything. Cycling, gardening, nipping to the shop for milk. He’ll do the gardening and then sit on the couch in the same stuff. I swipe them off the bedroom floor while he’s asleep and put them in the wash. He has one pair of shoes, and they STINK. He wears them for everything. The sole is split and they’re falling apart. He’ll wear clothes until theyre threadbare or fall apart. He seems to think this is some sort of notable achievement. He needs a haircut. He has about 4 a year, I think. Then there’s the near constant farting.

He's at home all day. I’ve never come home from work and had so much as a cup of tea waiting for me. Not once in the 12 years since he retired. He never cooks. He likes plain food – pies, chips, fish fingers, whereas I like something a bit spicier, but I cant cook it for him because he says it makes him ill. He doesn’t drink. We never nip out together for a pint and a glass of wine. We rarely go for meals out because he takes all the shine off that, moaning on and on about where he’ll be able to park and not wanting to get clamped or a parking ticket (parking is abundant and not restricted in our area).

We’ve been together 25 years and he still cant remember what date my birthday is.
I didn’t mention it at all one year, just to see if he’d remember, and I didn’t even get a card from him. He had a go at me for not reminding him. He’ll never just buy me a birthday or Christmas present, just asks me to find something I want and he’ll pay for it. Although having said that last year I did comment on some oven gloves I saw (when we were out at a garden centre with my mum) that I said I liked and he seemed offended on Christmas day when I wasn’t overjoyed with receiving them as my only gift. I organise surprise days out for things he likes doing/seeing and always get him something that I know he’ll like (or needs, like new clothes).

There’s loads more and I could go on all night but Ive probably bored you all already.
Well done if you’ve made it this far. Id like things to change but I don’t know where to start.

OP posts:
ItsCalledAConversation · 12/03/2023 20:28

Wow. He sounds awful. Why are you with him, what are his good points? How long have you been with him?

Xrays · 12/03/2023 20:28

You could change things by divorcing him. You don’t really like him by the sounds of it. And who would?!

MissKittyFantastico84 · 12/03/2023 20:32

What happens when you holiday away from him? Are you excited to get back to him (not home, but him exclusively) or do you dread it?

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:33

I do like him. Im just sick of his moaning and him being on a permanent downer. I feel like Im trying to jolly him out of it all the time. Good points? Well I suppose there are some but they escape me for now. He's quite handy around the house/garden I suppose.

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fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:35

Yeah, Im always glad to get home. Not excited as such. One other thing i've noticed is that Im the only one that never gets any calls/text from my other half while Im away, but thats because it takes him about 10 minutes to type a one line text.

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GarlicGrace · 12/03/2023 20:36

This is one of those glorious occasions (sorry, OP) that call for an LTB!

Seriously, you've endured this for 25 years? Are you still sane and, if so, how?

You're 55, in work and seemingly full of ideas you'd like to realise. This is the EXACT moment to start living those dreams - with or without the Millstone Of Gloom around your neck, but I think you'll step even more spritely without the extra weight.

Sunriseinwonderland · 12/03/2023 20:38

I couldn't stand that. I'd be off. Go forth and be free. Leave this miserable bastard before he kills your soul.

BlackFlyChardonnay · 12/03/2023 20:38

You sound incompatible. Has he or you changed over the years? I just can't fathom how you ended up together.

Spottycarousel · 12/03/2023 20:38

Well you can only accept who he is or leave him. It doesn't sound like he wants to change and he has to change himself, you can't do that for him. You could try telling him how he's making you feel as an attempt to encourage him to make changes but by the sound of it he wouldn't be receptive?

Mumsanetta · 12/03/2023 20:39

Well if you won’t LTB how about an affair? I am only partly joking.

Mumsanetta · 12/03/2023 20:40

Oh and if he is like this at 67, what will he be like at 87?! Just run, @fritterytwit.

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:46

@BlackFlyChardonnay we used to work together. He's changed. I think its because he spends to much time home alone. His friends are all retired too but he says theyre miserable old men!!!

@Mumsanetta oh god i couldnt contemplate an affair, the words frying pan and fire spring to mind, haha! And he's unlikely to make it to 87 so i suppose there's light at the end of the tunnel.

OP posts:
Lara53 · 12/03/2023 20:48

Sounds like potential autism spectrum
disorder to me

FictionalCharacter · 12/03/2023 20:49

Sunriseinwonderland · 12/03/2023 20:38

I couldn't stand that. I'd be off. Go forth and be free. Leave this miserable bastard before he kills your soul.

This. You can’t jolly him up, this is who he is - a one-dimensional, thoughtless, lazy Victor Meldrew who isn’t prepared to put a shred of effort into his marriage. Which sounds like it’s gone on for about 24.5 years too long. You could have a decent, normal life without him.

fairgame84 · 12/03/2023 20:49

Mum, is that you?

Seriously it sounds very similar to my dad and I don't know how my mum puts up with it. Me and Dbro even told her to leave a few years back because it was affecting her mental health.

Has he always been like this? My Dad was bearable until he retired and now he lives to moan. He tells us he's just passing the time until he dies, he's so bloody miserable. He's not depressed, he's constantly at the gp and appears to have everything but depression. He's just Victor meldrews long lost twin and he seems to enjoy being like that, he told Dbro that he likes upsetting people. What can you do with that attitude?

Summerhillsquare · 12/03/2023 20:51

Retirement, and old age, does this to some people, particularly men.

CalistoNoSolo · 12/03/2023 20:53

He sounds utterly dreadful. I couldn't do 25mins with someone like this, particularly with the awful personal hygiene. You can divorce him you know.

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:55

He's definitely got worse the longer he's been retired @fairgame84. He took early retirement as that was what he'd always wanted to do.

I sometimes think about retiring or going part time myself but then i'd be at home with him all day and at the moment that's not something i'd relish. He's never suggested i do that either.

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KILM · 12/03/2023 20:56

So..

  • He doesn't want to do anything with you
  • He doesn't care enough to remember your birthday (or write it down) or to pay attention when you give him the same instructions over and over (can't even be bothered to write it down for himself for next time either)
  • He doesn't care about having conversations you might actually be interested in
  • He doesn't even care enough about you to actually listen to you when you talk ... or even pretend to
  • He moans for moanings sake, just to bring the atmosphere down
  • He doesn't care if you are attracted to him or not
  • He doesn't care enough about you to compromise on meals, or take some of the effort off you so you get to eat what you like ever...

I'm going to be really blunt here OP - this man doesn't actually have any active interest in you as a person or being with you. He also doesn't have any active interest in leaving, or anyone else but he literally has no interest in you or making you happy which is kind of the whole point in having a partner.... you are his cook/cleaner/audience.
I'm sure if you said you were leaving he'd cry, and say he'd be devastated - but he'd only say those things because that's what you are SUPPOSED to say, he wouldnt actually feel anything in that moment other than fear of a big life change.
That sounds harsh, but how do I know? Because there are thousands of these men out there who shouldn't be in bloody relationships because they have no interest in their partners as PEOPLE or in making them happy. They cry and wail when women leave but at the end of the day they have no interest in putting any hard work in or compromising in any part of their life in order to make sure they are an appealing or good partner.
You deserve, so so much better than this.

Neodymium · 12/03/2023 20:57

id just go do your own thing. My husband was abit like that too. I call him out on it now. Plus if I say I want to do something or go somewhere and he starts morning about his hard it is I just go without him. I have been to 2 things in the last few weeks without him.

my best friend and I are planning a trip away for our families to see a show and he was complaining about it and the plane tickets cost ect. I said well I’m happy to just go on my own and you stay home with the kids? No problem at all doing that. That would make it only cost 20%. That shut him up.

i just tell him now this is what I’m doing, if you want to join me you can. But I’m not going to chase him.

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:02

I do my own thing a lot @Neodymium . We rarely socialise together. Ive known my closest friends since school. I socialise with my colleauges. He didnt want to go to my best friends wedding with me, about 10 years ago. His actual words were "she's your friend, why do i have to go?" I obviously went, without him.

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Mumsanetta · 12/03/2023 21:05

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:02

I do my own thing a lot @Neodymium . We rarely socialise together. Ive known my closest friends since school. I socialise with my colleauges. He didnt want to go to my best friends wedding with me, about 10 years ago. His actual words were "she's your friend, why do i have to go?" I obviously went, without him.

How did going to your BF’s wedding alone because he refused to accompany you make you feel?

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:09

I was unbothered about the wedding really. Saved all the palaver and moaning involved with getting him to buy a new suit, shoes etc. He wouldnt have enjoyed the day anyway. In fairness, he did drop me off and pick me up again.

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Isthisit22 · 12/03/2023 21:09

Leave before he gets significant health problems and you find yourself in a loveless, miserable relationship but unable to leave and possibly becoming a carer

Justforlaffs · 12/03/2023 21:10

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:33

I do like him. Im just sick of his moaning and him being on a permanent downer. I feel like Im trying to jolly him out of it all the time. Good points? Well I suppose there are some but they escape me for now. He's quite handy around the house/garden I suppose.

You LIKE him?

Good God, why?

Sounds like a pretty miserable existence to me. The wearing the same clothes day and night for days on end would be enough to clinch the decision to end the misery for me personally! Yuck.

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