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Im here for a moan about my miserable DH

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fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:24

Im at my wits end with my miserable DH. I don’t know what I want from this post but need a rant. Its semi lighthearted and Im not looking for pity.

I was watching an interview with Amy Winehouse yesterday. She was talking about her boyfriend and said something like “he bursts every bubble that I blow up”. That really struck a chord with me. Any idea I have, he'll dismiss it, whether its for home improvement - he wont like my suggestion (until time passes and he’ll suggest it like it was his idea in the first place), or holidays – he doesn’t like holidaying abroad.
I holiday abroad with friends regularly.

DH is 67, retired, Im 12 years younger and work FT. We have no mortgage or other debts. We are comfortably off. He has a hobby that we both share (motorcycling) and we enjoy a couple of trips away together doing this each year. Said hobby is one of his pet topics of conversation, but not mine as Im not mechanically minded and don’t have his encyclopaedic knowledge of anything on wheels. He’ll talk at me about oil change frequency or suspension or spark plugs and I just zone out after about 15 minutes of monologue and he’ll get all huffy if when I don’t join in. I’ve told him numerous times that he is fully aware that I have nothing to add to a one sided conversation around something I know nothing about. He wont ask anything or engage in anything I might want to talk about.

Currently he’s spending most of his days watching YouTube. He’s spent most of today watching various men talking about 15 minute cities and how councils in some places are going to restrict peoples lives etc. and is now ranting about the restriction it’s going to have on his life. But it wont, firstly because there are no plans to implement this where we live and secondly because he rarely leaves the house anyway unless its for a bike related trip out somewhere or to go to a supermarket a 5 minute drive away. I’ve told him it’s probably going to turn out to be a load of bollocks anyway and he just started shouting me down and that started a row.

I’ll speak to him or ask him something and get no response. He has no hearing problems. He just doesn’t seem to hear me. Or I’ll start speaking and he’ll start talking over me.

He's permanently miserable and catastrophising if even the slightest thing goes wrong. For example, yesterday a bulb went in one of our kitchen lights, his reaction was “everything’s broken or not working properly in this house”. I asked him to name one other thing that wasn’t working and he couldn’t (because everything’s fine). If I leave a cup and a biscuit wrapper on the coffee table, “this place is a tip”, etc. He’ll sit with his head in his hands, sighing until I ask if he’s ok (he’s always OK).
His mother used to do exactly the same thing, the likeness is uncanny. If he gets ill he’ll never take medication but will moan non stop about his symptoms, for example he gets hayfever but wont use antihistamines, wont take a painkiller if he gets a headache, wont see a dentist if he loses a filling, despite paying for dental insurance!

He has absolutely zero IT skills. However, he’s taken on a voluntary role related to his hobby, and he now expects me to deal with replying to emails (he doesn’t even know how to add an attachment to an email, despite me showing him literally hundreds of times ffs) and update his spreadsheets.

He's a complete scruffbag. I’ve seen better dressed scarecrows. He’ll wear the same clothes for days on end. Everything – undies, socks, t-shirt that he’ll sleep in and then wear all day. He only ever wears the same 2 pairs of jeans. For everything. Cycling, gardening, nipping to the shop for milk. He’ll do the gardening and then sit on the couch in the same stuff. I swipe them off the bedroom floor while he’s asleep and put them in the wash. He has one pair of shoes, and they STINK. He wears them for everything. The sole is split and they’re falling apart. He’ll wear clothes until theyre threadbare or fall apart. He seems to think this is some sort of notable achievement. He needs a haircut. He has about 4 a year, I think. Then there’s the near constant farting.

He's at home all day. I’ve never come home from work and had so much as a cup of tea waiting for me. Not once in the 12 years since he retired. He never cooks. He likes plain food – pies, chips, fish fingers, whereas I like something a bit spicier, but I cant cook it for him because he says it makes him ill. He doesn’t drink. We never nip out together for a pint and a glass of wine. We rarely go for meals out because he takes all the shine off that, moaning on and on about where he’ll be able to park and not wanting to get clamped or a parking ticket (parking is abundant and not restricted in our area).

We’ve been together 25 years and he still cant remember what date my birthday is.
I didn’t mention it at all one year, just to see if he’d remember, and I didn’t even get a card from him. He had a go at me for not reminding him. He’ll never just buy me a birthday or Christmas present, just asks me to find something I want and he’ll pay for it. Although having said that last year I did comment on some oven gloves I saw (when we were out at a garden centre with my mum) that I said I liked and he seemed offended on Christmas day when I wasn’t overjoyed with receiving them as my only gift. I organise surprise days out for things he likes doing/seeing and always get him something that I know he’ll like (or needs, like new clothes).

There’s loads more and I could go on all night but Ive probably bored you all already.
Well done if you’ve made it this far. Id like things to change but I don’t know where to start.

OP posts:
DanceMonster · 13/03/2023 09:27

newtb · 13/03/2023 09:24

Bet he's crap and selfish in bed as well.

Bloody hell, can you imagine having sex with someone who doesn’t wash or change their clothes?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/03/2023 09:30

I'm going to be really blunt here OP - this man doesn't actually have any active interest in you as a person or being with you. He also doesn't have any active interest in leaving, or anyone else but he literally has no interest in you or making you happy which is kind of the whole point in having a partner.... you are his cook/cleaner/audience

Apart from OP being his cook/cleaner/audience I doubt her OH would even notice if she wasn't there. She's a glorified domestic appliance that does things to facilitate his life and he'd miss that if it went, the same way he'd miss not having a washing machine or a cooker.

Mamoun · 13/03/2023 09:34

I never say this but this time I would advice to leave him. You're still young and full of energy.

MsPrism · 13/03/2023 09:40

I’m in the ‘go nuclear’ camp too. If he was my DH I would be asking him to either sort himself out or I’d leave. You’re obviously not making him happy either. Ask him to remember when he was happy, and to contrast that to how he feels now. He needs to work out what he needs to get out of this awful rut. If he doesn’t you will be leaving.

MsPrism · 13/03/2023 09:42

I think we all shuddered at that! Sorry OP

HangerLaneGyratorySystem · 13/03/2023 09:45

I’m the the process of divorce - I’m 60 he’s 66, can see lots of similarities. What do you actually want to do OP? You haven’t said. Just moan? Get out? I feel sorry for my STBExH -he has no family to speak of apart from our DCs - but he’s drowning with his hands around my neck and I want to save myself.

LaurieFairyCake · 13/03/2023 09:48

This is no life ...

You only get one life as far as I know, do you really want to spend it with him ?

Is he AMAZING at sex ? (He'd really have to be to consider staying)

He's just not interested in actually SHARING a life with you, I'd give him a list of stuff to change immediately or I'd leave

Unphased · 13/03/2023 09:50

Perhaps he’s depressed, have you thought about going to the doctors with him ans talking about medication, Unfortunately men don’t seem to cope well with retirement. ( not all )

Newestname002 · 13/03/2023 09:51

@fritterytwit

OP, what are you getting from the responses to your thread? Are you realising that staying in this situation is bad for you (FYI I think it is from what you've said in your own opening post) and now willing to find the mental energy to do something positive (but perhaps hard) for your own sake, including your own future mental health)?

There is a very real possibility, if you don't separate yourself from him that you'll become even more ground down by his behaviour over the years and become trapped into being his carer as his habits become even more embedded and you continually pick up around him (dirty clothing fin the floor, bring his unpaid PA, cooking food that he enjoys all the time rather than something you enjoy), him never doing anything around the house despite being there all the time whilst you are working... etc).

At the very least do please consider giving yourself some space by moving to another bedroom which is your clean, safe, quiet place. You are already changing your behaviour (ie not WFH because that would mean being with him more...).

Are you sure you can stand the next few decades of your life like this? 🌹

furryfrontbottom · 13/03/2023 10:02

Until you can bring yourself to consider a permanent solution (legal or patio related) I would suggest going away without him as often as possible, refusing point blank to deal with his emails and cooking yourself the spicy food you enjoy. If he wants to eat something else, presumably he knows where the oven is.

80s · 13/03/2023 10:12

He has a hobby that we both share (motorcycling) and we enjoy a couple of trips away together doing this each year. Said hobby is one of his pet topics of conversation, but not mine
So you don't actually share this hobby? Do you ride a bike? How are you interested in bikes?

But let's look at the positives. He rides his bike with you. That's nice. What other positive things have you mentioned?

he did drop me off and pick me up again
Again, a taxi service is really useful.

When the weather's better he'll do the garden
And a gardener can save time and effort.

And he did get you those oven gloves. It's not all bad, is it?

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 13/03/2023 10:38

He's a bore, inconsiderate, and gross. Get out now before this becomes your entire life and you regret staying on your deathbed.

DarcyBlue · 13/03/2023 10:40

Isthisit22 · 12/03/2023 21:09

Leave before he gets significant health problems and you find yourself in a loveless, miserable relationship but unable to leave and possibly becoming a carer

This in spades!

mumontheskoolrun · 13/03/2023 10:40

" He's a complete scruffbag. I’ve seen better dressed scarecrows. "

This just made me spit my coffee out and choke laughing! 😂😂

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 13/03/2023 10:40

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:18

The leaving part is quite hard for my conscience, particularly if he were to get ill. He would have no-one else. He was an only child, his mum was an only child so no relatives on her side, His dad had a brother but he and that side of his family are all dead.

In the interest of being cruel to be kind - don't be a martyr, stop wasting your life and potential with this arsehole, and get out while you can. When he dies and you're left alone with no purpose (because you've made HIM your purpose) - what will you say to yourself? You'll wish for a time machine to go back to now and take your chance to get out.

mumontheskoolrun · 13/03/2023 10:46

Do you think it could be down to the age difference? You are young and sound enthusiastic of life, where he sounds old and like he's almost given up!

I'm guessing there is no intimacy?

Wallywobbles · 13/03/2023 19:37

Christ you're only 3 years older than me. How can you contemplate a future like this?

KatherineJaneway · 14/03/2023 17:25

Sorry to sound harsh op but living with him sounds totally miserable.

oddUsername · 14/03/2023 17:57

Oh please leave him op, he sounds like my dad.
He started to get more miserable by the day after he retired and now he's 80 and has Alzheimer's so mum can't bring herself to leave.
She is just his outlet for moaning to, it has got progressively worse since he retires at 55.
Years of not being able to do anything right and now she's practically his career and gets the brunt of his frustration as he can't do things for himself and she can't do anything right by him.

I hate seeing my mum like this it's heartbreaking, we live away from them and my mum loves coming to us for a shirt break and it's the only time she's happy. He won't come obviously because it's too far, too much petrol and mums driving is terrible.

joycerousselot · 02/05/2023 22:40

If I were you, start would be take a lover. Not sure is it's OK to say that but if you are being gaslit by your husband then things are really dire. I didn't even know what gaslighting was until it happened to my daughter - being put down all the time and being made to feel stupid. Getting no recognition for anything you do or say. Having to listen him drone on about whatever he wants and not actually wanting to hear your response. You need a bit of fun - try the local swimming pool for a start!

FictionalCharacter · 03/05/2023 02:21

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:18

The leaving part is quite hard for my conscience, particularly if he were to get ill. He would have no-one else. He was an only child, his mum was an only child so no relatives on her side, His dad had a brother but he and that side of his family are all dead.

None of that is your fault. If he wanted you as a servant / nurse in his old age if he gets ill, he should have treated you better.

Wallywobbles · 14/05/2023 22:27

What would happen if you said you want a divorce? Is it wrong that id like to know the answer?

TheCatterall · 14/05/2023 22:38

@fritterytwit picture this. You retire. Within a year he becomes quite ill with a physical or mental ailment that restricts his existing habits even further. No more bike rides for him. You are expected to spend the rest of his life caring for him.

Would you regret still being with him? Do you want to spend a possible 20 years caring for him, not being able to get a break or go away without finding respite care for him. You’ll be trapped.

he’s not a bad man. Fair enough. But I can’t see how this relationship feeds your soul. Makes you feel loved and appreciated.

life’s too short to spend it miserable.

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Cattenberg · 14/05/2023 23:45

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:18

The leaving part is quite hard for my conscience, particularly if he were to get ill. He would have no-one else. He was an only child, his mum was an only child so no relatives on her side, His dad had a brother but he and that side of his family are all dead.

What about the friends he spends hours talking to on the phone?

Anyway, I couldn’t live like this, OP, so I’d have to leave. If you can’t enjoy each other’s company, what’s the point? The hygiene issue alone would kill any attraction on my side stone dead.