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Im here for a moan about my miserable DH

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fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 20:24

Im at my wits end with my miserable DH. I don’t know what I want from this post but need a rant. Its semi lighthearted and Im not looking for pity.

I was watching an interview with Amy Winehouse yesterday. She was talking about her boyfriend and said something like “he bursts every bubble that I blow up”. That really struck a chord with me. Any idea I have, he'll dismiss it, whether its for home improvement - he wont like my suggestion (until time passes and he’ll suggest it like it was his idea in the first place), or holidays – he doesn’t like holidaying abroad.
I holiday abroad with friends regularly.

DH is 67, retired, Im 12 years younger and work FT. We have no mortgage or other debts. We are comfortably off. He has a hobby that we both share (motorcycling) and we enjoy a couple of trips away together doing this each year. Said hobby is one of his pet topics of conversation, but not mine as Im not mechanically minded and don’t have his encyclopaedic knowledge of anything on wheels. He’ll talk at me about oil change frequency or suspension or spark plugs and I just zone out after about 15 minutes of monologue and he’ll get all huffy if when I don’t join in. I’ve told him numerous times that he is fully aware that I have nothing to add to a one sided conversation around something I know nothing about. He wont ask anything or engage in anything I might want to talk about.

Currently he’s spending most of his days watching YouTube. He’s spent most of today watching various men talking about 15 minute cities and how councils in some places are going to restrict peoples lives etc. and is now ranting about the restriction it’s going to have on his life. But it wont, firstly because there are no plans to implement this where we live and secondly because he rarely leaves the house anyway unless its for a bike related trip out somewhere or to go to a supermarket a 5 minute drive away. I’ve told him it’s probably going to turn out to be a load of bollocks anyway and he just started shouting me down and that started a row.

I’ll speak to him or ask him something and get no response. He has no hearing problems. He just doesn’t seem to hear me. Or I’ll start speaking and he’ll start talking over me.

He's permanently miserable and catastrophising if even the slightest thing goes wrong. For example, yesterday a bulb went in one of our kitchen lights, his reaction was “everything’s broken or not working properly in this house”. I asked him to name one other thing that wasn’t working and he couldn’t (because everything’s fine). If I leave a cup and a biscuit wrapper on the coffee table, “this place is a tip”, etc. He’ll sit with his head in his hands, sighing until I ask if he’s ok (he’s always OK).
His mother used to do exactly the same thing, the likeness is uncanny. If he gets ill he’ll never take medication but will moan non stop about his symptoms, for example he gets hayfever but wont use antihistamines, wont take a painkiller if he gets a headache, wont see a dentist if he loses a filling, despite paying for dental insurance!

He has absolutely zero IT skills. However, he’s taken on a voluntary role related to his hobby, and he now expects me to deal with replying to emails (he doesn’t even know how to add an attachment to an email, despite me showing him literally hundreds of times ffs) and update his spreadsheets.

He's a complete scruffbag. I’ve seen better dressed scarecrows. He’ll wear the same clothes for days on end. Everything – undies, socks, t-shirt that he’ll sleep in and then wear all day. He only ever wears the same 2 pairs of jeans. For everything. Cycling, gardening, nipping to the shop for milk. He’ll do the gardening and then sit on the couch in the same stuff. I swipe them off the bedroom floor while he’s asleep and put them in the wash. He has one pair of shoes, and they STINK. He wears them for everything. The sole is split and they’re falling apart. He’ll wear clothes until theyre threadbare or fall apart. He seems to think this is some sort of notable achievement. He needs a haircut. He has about 4 a year, I think. Then there’s the near constant farting.

He's at home all day. I’ve never come home from work and had so much as a cup of tea waiting for me. Not once in the 12 years since he retired. He never cooks. He likes plain food – pies, chips, fish fingers, whereas I like something a bit spicier, but I cant cook it for him because he says it makes him ill. He doesn’t drink. We never nip out together for a pint and a glass of wine. We rarely go for meals out because he takes all the shine off that, moaning on and on about where he’ll be able to park and not wanting to get clamped or a parking ticket (parking is abundant and not restricted in our area).

We’ve been together 25 years and he still cant remember what date my birthday is.
I didn’t mention it at all one year, just to see if he’d remember, and I didn’t even get a card from him. He had a go at me for not reminding him. He’ll never just buy me a birthday or Christmas present, just asks me to find something I want and he’ll pay for it. Although having said that last year I did comment on some oven gloves I saw (when we were out at a garden centre with my mum) that I said I liked and he seemed offended on Christmas day when I wasn’t overjoyed with receiving them as my only gift. I organise surprise days out for things he likes doing/seeing and always get him something that I know he’ll like (or needs, like new clothes).

There’s loads more and I could go on all night but Ive probably bored you all already.
Well done if you’ve made it this far. Id like things to change but I don’t know where to start.

OP posts:
Flittingaboutagain · 13/03/2023 03:50

he's only got worse because he took retirement

^ are you sure it's causal?

MarshaMelrose · 13/03/2023 03:53

I don't how old you are but I have a friend who wascin hercearlyb50s and her husbsnd woukdnt do anything. He didn't want go on a day out. Fir acneal pictures, nothing. He used to sit in his recliner, have a beer and watch sport. He was an OK guy. He didn't abuse her or anything. She was just bored at how her life was. She told him over and over, and to be fair, he didn't lie and say he'd try, he said honestly that he was happy living like that.
She left him. Within 3 years she was going out with someone else. They were away most weekends, off to eat out at new restaurants, socialised with friends. He gave her encouragement go for other jobs at work and she started to travel more. They're married, they've just completely resigned a new house, she is so happy with her life.
You don't have to settle if it's not the life you want. And, I hope it goes without saying, you don't have to leave him if you think you can improve things. Only you know what you want from your future and what you can live with.

Plodstop · 13/03/2023 04:14

He sounds very depressed.
I've struggled with depression on and off over the years and I can be a miserable B$tch too.
I'm better now but honestly, I don't know how people put up with me sometimes in the past. I couldn't show much emotion, never got excited or happy about anything (everything always ends badly doesn't it?).
I hated being like this but depression can really take over your personality and make you feel very isolated. He probably hates it too and feels crap about himself and guilty but can't express it.
...That doesn't mean you should have to put up with it. Maybe enourage him to go to the GP. ADs have helped me quite a lot.

pompomdaisy · 13/03/2023 04:16

What a catch! I couldn't live with him for 1 hour. Do you like him? Or are you just telling yourself that?

maybeinanoter86 · 13/03/2023 06:32

Op I feel so sorry for you . The bubble burster hits the nail on the head for me too .

Although he seems like a grumpy sod do you think he has some mental
Health issues going on ? Depression and ocd maybe ?

BMrs · 13/03/2023 06:45

My mums husband is exactly like this. They now love separately and spend weekends together travelling in their caravan but spend the majority of the week separate. It's the happiest they've ever been. They r both also accepted the fact that they are who they are and won't change now they're in their 60s so spending less time together means they can bare it more 😂

borntobequiet · 13/03/2023 06:57

I have a friend who was in a similar position to you (even down to the motorbikes) and she divorced him. It was a difficult time but she’s now happily living her own life. (She had a shortish relationship when she met someone else but eventually decided she’d have more fun on her own.)
As a pp said, now is the time to make the most of the rest of your life.

Paq · 13/03/2023 07:05

He does sound depressed but it's not your problem to fix.

Maybe try a trial separation for 3-6 months and see if either of you are happier?

hattie43 · 13/03/2023 07:15

He sucks the joy out of life . He either changes and he can start with his personal hygiene , or you leave . I am 57 and I am in the best time of my life , no pressures , money to do as I please . Whilst I am enjoying my best life no way would I be with someone like this. You will be my age soon and only you can decide how you want to live .

Badger1970 · 13/03/2023 07:19

DH is nearly 10 years old than me, and sounds very similar although still working. He's permanently tired, miserable, grumpy and sucks the energy out of everything. Things like lightbulbs and clothes/shoes sound very very familiar.

How I manage is doing lots of separate things to save my sanity. I'm the cook and if he won't eat it, that's up to him and he can sort his own. I do lots with our DC/grandchildren at the weekends and we've got 2 dogs that get a lot of exercise.

I accept that I can't change his behaviour, but I refuse to enable any part of it if that makes sense.

SecretDoor · 13/03/2023 07:24

For inspiration I suggest you read The Guardian articles in the series “A new start after 60”

cosmiccosmos · 13/03/2023 07:40

The thing is OP it sounds like you are miserable, this isn't going to change. You are young enough to start out on your own. Imagine if he gets ill, it doesn't sound as though he's looking after himself, you'll be stuck caring for him or will want to leave at a difficult time.

From what you've written I'd be planning to leave, you're only in your fifties - get out whilst you have the opportunity and energy!

Sparkletastic · 13/03/2023 07:43

Think how lovely it would be coming home to your own little place, inviting friends round whenever you want, without him dragging you down.

StewPots · 13/03/2023 07:51

Urrrgh OP have my first LTB.

He sounds horrendous - miserable, awful personal hygiene ( which I’m sorry, I just couldn’t get past at all ) and has zero interest in you whatsoever.

Agree with PPs - leave now and enjoy your many remaining years with people who value you. Otherwise you will become his carer which will make life even more miserable for you. I know it’s easier said than done - I left an abusive partner of 10 years then divorced my cheated EXH of 5 years - but believe me it’s better to be alone than tied to this ridiculous selfish man child with piss poor hygiene.

CleaningOutMyCloset · 13/03/2023 08:02

Have you sat down and talked to him about this? There's so many things here

His lack of personal hygiene
Moaning
Birthday
Cooking
Socialising

Would he go to marriage counselling?

Naunet · 13/03/2023 08:56

fritterytwit · 12/03/2023 21:18

The leaving part is quite hard for my conscience, particularly if he were to get ill. He would have no-one else. He was an only child, his mum was an only child so no relatives on her side, His dad had a brother but he and that side of his family are all dead.

Then he should have learnt to treat people better. Jesus, why do so many people think men deserve some kind of female skivvy to look after him, no matter how much of a selfish, uncaring bastard he’s been? Do you think he would stay with you out of guilt that you might get ill and need him to care for you?

whattodo1975 · 13/03/2023 09:00

He's 12 years older than you. This was always going to happen, when you were in 20/30's and people said "yeah but what will be like when you 2 are older" this is what they were talking about.

Secretboringsister · 13/03/2023 09:01

I have no advice but wanted to pop in and say I love the way you write and I will be stealing “I have seen better dressed scarecrows.”

big hugs to you

LaFemmeDamnee · 13/03/2023 09:02

Omg leave. Get half the equity from the house, get a nice neat little flat, come home to a clean tidy home with nobody moaning at you and farting and eat whatever you want for dinner. You've got a good 20 years of this to put up with if he's in reasonable health.

DanceMonster · 13/03/2023 09:09

He’s not going to change, so you just have to decide whether you’re going to spend the next 20 years of your life putting up with it. Up to you.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 13/03/2023 09:14

Jesus Christ what a miserable life.

What are you asking? He's not going to change.

If you want any sort of pleasant existence you need to leave him. He will drag you down.

TeaserandtheFirecat · 13/03/2023 09:16

OP has babied and mummied this man for decades, as some pps have said. She could be writing about her teen son, not a so called partner!

B0g · 13/03/2023 09:17

God, what on earth are you doing? Your replies are all about your shit bloke, he doesn’t matter, you’ve thrown away a large chunk of your life choosing misery. What do you want? What brings you joy and happiness, what are your plans for the next 20 years, plan to enjoy life when divorced. There’s no need to do this any more-or in the first place- it’s horrific that you’ve thrown so many years away.

JellyQuivvers · 13/03/2023 09:19

You're only 2 years older than me OP and I find your description of your relationship really dismal and totally unrelatable ☹️ - if you were one of my friends I would be worried about your future and rooting for you to leave.....

newtb · 13/03/2023 09:24

Bet he's crap and selfish in bed as well.

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