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Walk away - is the emotional manipulation?

114 replies

Bleddyfreezin · 26/02/2023 11:42

Where do I start? I hope you can help. Please be kind my MH is not great.

I’m due to be married in the summer.
2nd time around for both. He has two kids, 20&18. We live apart due to work but see each other every weekend. I did live with him briefly when his children were smaller. We’ve been together 8 years.

His DD (20) has been incredibly unkind to me. She had a reputation at school for being a bully. I didn’t ever get involved
as not my place to but I do feel her parents
have allowed this behaviour by never addressing it. My fiancé refuses to speak to me about the unkind way she’s treated me and on the occasion I asked him to face up to her actions he said I was entirely to blame and shouted and yelled at me. It’s outing to say what the issue was over but there is photographic evidence of it being her unkindness to me.

I know she’s his DD and therefore it’s difficult but this is not an ambiguous situation, it’s incredibly clear. I’m not asking him to choose, I’ve come to terms with it but just acknowledge it and not blame me.

He’s like this with other elements of his life. I am last on his list of priorities. His work, friends, hobbies all take priority and if I ever say anything he literally starts shouting almost immediately and coming out with silly accusations of things I’m supposed to have said that is untrue.

I tried to talk last night about feeling bottom of the pile. He started to shout so I said I was going home. I asked him to call me when he was ready to talk and not shout or blame me.

I am prepared to walk away and I’ve told him so. I do love him but does this sound like he’s emotionally manipulating me?

I’m so confused. I’ve tried to keep it as short as I can while not drip feeding. There is a lot of background. I’m not overly needy.

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 27/02/2023 10:55

I can't remember the specifics but I once heard the advice 'never marry anyone you think would be a bastard to divorce'.

Also, echoing pp, people we have relationships with should be 'nice'. If you wouldn't describe him as a nice man then you shouldn't date him.

Youraccountisnolongervalid · 27/02/2023 12:14

Aren’t they all bastards when you divorce? 😂

ChaToilLeam · 27/02/2023 12:35

Stay strong, OP! He is a mean bully and his daughter has turned out much the same. He’s only pleasant when he gets his own way.

You are much better off out of this relationship.

Bleddyfreezin · 27/02/2023 15:38

I’ve had a very short message from him just asking if I’m ok. I replied as to not would give him ammunition to criticise. I replied no not really, are you? He replied he was ok. That was all. I said “glad you’re ok”. What more is there to say?

He loves his mind games, this I’m sure is just another.

OP posts:
Warspite · 27/02/2023 15:43

Hi ZOP,
I have to admit I haven't had time to read your entire thread but it sounds like you’ve reached a watershed moment.

You know what you need to do.

You could be his “better than nothing” because you are the familiar & the thought of getting out there again, for him, might be a step too far. He returns/makes up with you, sweeps angst under the carpet and carries on because he’s lazy. That is no way to carry on us it? Hmmm?

Prick his balloon. Feel the fear and do it anyway.

Warspite · 27/02/2023 15:44

Not ZOP! I meant Hi OP!

OhNoNotThatAgain · 27/02/2023 16:04

Don't marry this man!

He doesn't treat you as an equal, he doesn't respect you, he is tight-fisted, bad tempered, and he is only happy when you are toeing the line.

ItsaMetalBand · 27/02/2023 16:33

She didn't lick it off a stone, did she?

His awful bullying daughter learned that behaviour at the knee. He's awful so leave.

sunsoutagain · 27/02/2023 18:07

Hold your head up high and don't let this bully of a man treat you like this - life is too short to waste it on negative toxic people

Pinkbonbon · 27/02/2023 20:15

So basically he only messaged to check you were feeling upset. And to stick the boot in that he isn't fussed.

I'd text him 'feeling much better now thanks, must have been something I ate'.

Seriously fuck right back with him.

He'll probably have a hissy fit about how you don't care about him. To which you just reply 'LOL'. And don't read anything else he sends. Just block him.

Once you stop walking on egg shells in the vain hope of making things easier you'll realise that THEN life gets a lot easier. Because the big secret is this - he will attack you no matter what you say. He will try to make out you are the bad guy no matter what you say. He means you harm no matter what you say.

So tell him to right royally go and fuck himself. And post his stuff to him recorded delivery/drop it with his parents. And change your locks if he ever had a key.

It is that easy. Scary as fuck yes. But once you commit to it properly and sever all ties, you'll finally be free. And, in a way you chose, rather than because there was nothing of yourself left to give.

category12 · 27/02/2023 20:17

Just block him and have done.

FinallyHere · 27/02/2023 20:18

He loves his mind games, this I’m sure is just another.

@Bleddyfreezin

Sorry you are going through this.

I get that it's easy for a stranger to say this, but honestly, what are you getting out of replying ?

You know these are his mind games.

You know, we hope, that he is more interested in mind games than a lovely life together for you.

Replying just keeps you enmeshed. Please, please start to focus on yourself and building your life. You life is going to be great, just as soon as you start without him.

Meanwhile, cut off his supply of your attention do it for your future self, who will be very grateful indeed xx

Successgirl2022 · 27/02/2023 20:51

In this case, I would tell him: 'I would be ok if you stood up for me and tell your DD about respecting me and defended my boundaries not letting her treat me this unacceptable way'.

iamenough2023 · 27/02/2023 22:32

Bleddyfreezin · 26/02/2023 12:00

It’s only midday but I left around 9 last night and it’s been radio silence since. I haven’t contacted him either but my final words were “when you’re ready to talk and not shout, I’ll listen”.

You’re all right and thank you for the support. It’s easy to say leave him but we have a lot of entanglement even though we live apart. Not impossible though. I’m reading and very interested to hear from anyone who’s been in similar situations. I’m very unsure what to do.

"Entanglement"?! Talking about entanglement OP, I just left my husband of 25 years, because he was a narc and treated my like crap; we have three kids and a dog. Of course you can leave him, leave and do not look back. Not sure honestly what you saw in this person as for little you shared here I can tell that he is nasty and would not touch him with a stick. You say you are very unsure what to do? I am very puzzled with this because to me, and most of the posters, situation could not be clearer.

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