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Affair

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pinkcanvas · 26/02/2023 10:11

I’ve name changed to post this…

DH who I’ve been with for 18 years has cheated on me with my children’s nanny. Apparently they “only” kissed (several times), had been sexting and meeting up secretly a few times for walks, holding hands and talking about the future. The whole thing started and ended within a month.

I’m told she wanted guarantees he would leave me and wanted to be step mum to the kids. She’s struggling to conceive with her DH and wanted my DH to say he would have a baby with her, which he didn't agree to, but also didn’t say that was out of the question. All sounds quite serious for a month fling where only kissing was involved. He apparently also thought this was odd.

I’m told both of them spent their meet ups moaning about their relationships, although he tells me it was mostly her doing this (of course!) and him just not putting her off as he liked the attention. They were talking about booking a hotel and he tells me they were going to but just to “talk”. I’ve seen some messages where they do just say it will be just to talk, but I also find it hard to believe when in the hotel, they would have left it at that…

He says the affair only happened because they gradually blurred boundaries over the years from chatting in the kitchen a lot. I knew they talked when he grabbed a coffee while WFH, but didn’t really think anything of it. She started making comments to him and he was flattered and it moved into flirting.

From what he’s said, it does genuinely sound like she was coming on to him - he could have said no at any point of course! But he isn’t very good at picking up these inferences sometimes. She started sending him songs to his phone each day and then they started chatting on WhatsApp. Eventually this turned into sexting and she sent him some semi naked photos. Some where she removed clothes in our house to text him! Apparently he didn’t reciprocate but definitely encouraged this and the conversation was very sexual in nature.

The times they met up he lied to my face saying he was going on errands. I was sick one day and he just left me to cope with the kids while he went off to meet her.

He downplays all of this because he says he was just down and miserable and liked the attention and it got out of hand. That he was just bored and knew it meant nothing and that it wasn’t a threat to our marriage so because he knows that; he thinks it’s not a big deal.

I am of course devastated. He knows cheating is the one thing I have said is my boundary and I’ve put up with a lot of things from him over the years. I can’t stop picturing them together. She was greeting him when he came home with a hug and kiss like she was playing wife - and the kids were around (but apparently didn’t see). The way he says it all, she sounds quite unhinged but I guess that’s also convenient(!)

He does seem genuinely sorry, saying he’s depressed and crying and saying he loves me and wants to work through this. We have two primary aged children.

As there wasn’t any actual sex would you work at it, or is the betrayal too much?

OP posts:
GyozaGuiting · 27/02/2023 18:26

He left you when you were ill to go off with her! That would be the deal breaker for me.

I also think they had sex, sorry Op. you’re getting half a story.

pinkcanvas · 27/02/2023 18:34

@changedforonenightonly no she's gone

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2023 18:37

He's never cheated on me before as far as I'm aware. He certainly knows I wouldn't be ok with that

I wasn't suggesting he had, pinkcanvas, but it hardly matters where the learning process of what you'll put up with is concerned
It's that "boiling frog" analogy again, where one thing tolerated becomes another and then another, and each time he convinces himself that it's not that serious because he didn't mean it / didn't know what he was doing / insert excuse of choice

As said though, only you can make the decisions here and I wish you only the best with them

Moser85 · 27/02/2023 21:18

MadamAndTheAnts · 26/02/2023 18:26

If you look at many of the “leave him immediately” posters’ other comments it’s perfectly reasonable to assume a fair few are coming from a place of bitterness, and not strange at all.

If you would leave your husband and young children because your husband “flirted” with someone, I would describe that as extreme. You might as well leave him right now, because he has almost certainly flirted with another woman at some point.

As another poster said, you seem to have the lowest standards ever seen on here.

There's a difference between flirting and planning a family with a woman where she's stepmum.

Even some men who have full blown affairs wouldn't do that.

It's one of the most despicable things I've ever heard of a man on here doing.

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:43

Moser85 · 27/02/2023 21:18

As another poster said, you seem to have the lowest standards ever seen on here.

There's a difference between flirting and planning a family with a woman where she's stepmum.

Even some men who have full blown affairs wouldn't do that.

It's one of the most despicable things I've ever heard of a man on here doing.

It might well have simply have been fantasy talk. People evoke sorts of scenarios through conversation that they don’t necessarily intend to go through with.

You’re being too literalist.

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:46

Really interesting to see the number of commenters crying “they had sex!!”

None of you have any insight whatsoever into whether they did or not, apart from your own loved experience which is not sufficient to make a call either way.

Moser85 · 27/02/2023 22:26

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:43

It might well have simply have been fantasy talk. People evoke sorts of scenarios through conversation that they don’t necessarily intend to go through with.

You’re being too literalist.

Even if it was just fantasy talk that doesn't make it any better.

Yankydoodledandy · 27/02/2023 23:45

pinkcanvas · 27/02/2023 09:27

Yes he could have not told me. He said he felt guilty and that's why he told me.

This made me laugh out loud!!!
Im so sorry OP for what you are going through BUT no man fesses up because they feel guilty 😒

Theos · 28/02/2023 01:19

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:46

Really interesting to see the number of commenters crying “they had sex!!”

None of you have any insight whatsoever into whether they did or not, apart from your own loved experience which is not sufficient to make a call either way.

Lol @ loved experience.

SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 28/02/2023 02:39

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:46

Really interesting to see the number of commenters crying “they had sex!!”

None of you have any insight whatsoever into whether they did or not, apart from your own loved experience which is not sufficient to make a call either way.

I have no personal experience of conducting an affair. But I’ve never in my life known of anyone who booked a hotel room to have a conversation with a member of the opposite sex / same sex if they are gay.

99.99% of adults know what “ let’s book a hotel room “ means .

savethatkitty · 28/02/2023 02:43

I'm sorry for what you are going through but I don't believe no sex was involved. I don't think he's telling you everything.

Yankydoodledandy · 02/03/2023 22:12

Hiw are you OP

Wellitjustgetsworse · 03/03/2023 19:24

Yeah they slept together sorry. It fucking hurts. The way they come up with the dumbest excuses.

Also What women wants to loose their job, relationship and be a stepmum to someone else's kids without their being a strong level of intimacy. For women that usually happens through having sex with someone I doubt talks alone and booking hotels to chat in but not having sex was where they drew the line..

Puppers · 03/03/2023 21:43

MadamAndTheAnts · 27/02/2023 21:46

Really interesting to see the number of commenters crying “they had sex!!”

None of you have any insight whatsoever into whether they did or not, apart from your own loved experience which is not sufficient to make a call either way.

And yet you apparently possess the insight to know that everyone else is being "too literalist" in believing the facts as presented RE the discussions of babies and step-parenting, rather than the whole thing being a fantasy as per your imagined version of events, which is based on nothing.

SammyScrounge · 27/05/2023 03:10

WentForAWalk · 26/02/2023 12:48

You only have half the story.

No way could I ever trust him again. It would be over for me.

This is true. He is painting the nanny as an unhinged creature who made all the moves and come-ons. Cheating husbands always claim that. She wants your children? Really?Is he trying to divert your attention from his behaviour by making you afraid of a bunny boiler's?

As for planning to go to a hotel with no intention of having sex - I find that hard to believe.

Some couples recover from infidelity, some don't. Take your time in deciding which outcome you want to try for.

myheadisspinningoutofcontrol · 27/05/2023 03:41

How did you find out?

Did he feel guilty and admit to it or did you discover it some other way?

If he admitted it then MAYBE he realised he'd overstepped the mark and wanted to work things out with you.

If you found out, it may have only been a matter of time before he did sleep with her!

myheadisspinningoutofcontrol · 27/05/2023 03:43

... apologies. Ignore my last message.

I've just realised this thread is a little old now and my questions have already been answered by the OP.

lecreseut · 27/05/2023 04:22

Your DH is confessing all this to you now because he has realised that the nanny is UNHINGED and like the BOILER BUNNY Glenn Choose in that Fatal Attraction movie.

First priority is you and the safety of your children. Change the locks, inform the school that she is to have no contact with the children.

As for the DH, you are not under any obligation to let him know what you choose to decide to do about your marriage. Let him stew for a while, and then decide what is best for you.

He only confesses to what he thinks he can get away with. The nanny is pyscho and he is worried shit about it, that's why he is telling you.

Rainbowsandfairies · 27/05/2023 04:50

Poor you! Once a cheap always a cheat. You're worth so much more than this man. Time to get your ducks in order. Kick him out - onwards and upwards. Good 👍 luck xx

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