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Pregnant and my partner wants to go back to his country

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Bunny44 · 14/02/2023 12:29

Sorry for the long post: I met my partner while on holiday. He's from from another continent but I speak his language. After a long distance relationship, where I went to visit him several times and I met his family, we agreed he would come to the UK to live for a while to see how things went here. On my last visit to see him, just before we came to the UK I discovered he had cheated on me with his ex before I came out to see him. He essentially left this girl in the first place to be with me - he said she was very controlling, jealous and didn't want more children (as she already had some from a previous relationship), whereas he did. We almost ended the relationship as a result, but after a long discussion I agreed to let him come still as he said it was a one off thing, he regretted it and he was very sorry for hurting me. I thought perhaps I shouldn't focus on it as we were doing long distance at the time and he'd be a long way from her once he moved with me.

Anyway, we arrive in the UK in winter (he's from a hot country), it's freezing, it's dark and he doesn't speak the language and he's instantly homesick and miserable. One week later, I find out I'm pregnant. We both felt happy as we really want children, but he soon tells me he feels overwhelmed as he's not sure about living in the UK or how the relationship is going given the cultural differences. It also came out later that he still has feelings for his ex, and I've caught him on the phone to her several times, which I've told him is really disrespectful, even if things don't work between us. I also feel really sad as I do want children, but I wanted to be in a secure relationship and don't want to do it on my own. I should note that I was already pregnant when I found out about the cheating and before he came to the UK.

I'm almost 35, and have wanted children for ages - I felt so overwhelmed that I thought about having an abortion despite this, but I don't think I can go ahead with it as I know I'd regret it. I have a very good job and my own house so financially, even if it's hard, I think I can make it work through careful saving. However, I have little family support since my mum has a long term illness and my family lives several hours away anyway. He is saying he definitely wants to go home now - he said he doesn't want to hurt me anymore, and will support any way he can, but I don't see what he can do from so far away.

I feel really upset he doesn't want to try and make it work and annoyed he wasn't more honest with me about his feelings for his ex, but also I feel stupid for not giving it more time before taking risks. I feel a lot of shame about the idea of being a single mum as it's not common in my circles. I have fantastic friends, many of whom already have children and are very supportive. However, I'm struggling now to stop feeling vulnerable, sad and ressentful for him leaving me to deal with this alone. Many of my friends had awful births and the first few months with their newborns were terrible and I'm horrified about the thought of having to go through all of that alone. Is all as bad as I think it will be?

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Bunny44 · 28/03/2023 15:59

@StalkedByASpider I thought I'd give an update.

I spoke to my parents and family about the pregnancy and they've been incredibly supportive and my parents have suggested I move in with them for at least the first 6 months. I've decided that's a great idea as it'd make them very happy and I know I need all the support I can get. Where they live I have also have a lot of friends so I'll have a good support network down there. My parents are super happy about the baby on the way and my mum says it's given her an extra motivation to get better and she seems to have improved quite a bit, although obviously I'm keen not to over-burden them still.

My ex has gone back to his country and immediately got back with the ex. At the airport he kissed me goodbye and said he would be there for me and the baby and he was in touch at first but then his partner got extremely jealous and unpleasant things started happening so we are currently not speaking, although I keep hearing through his family that he's asking them about me and the baby.

My ex's family know about the baby as he's told everyone about it and I had a lot of supportive messages from them. The extended family weren't happy with how he's treated me and they've actually ostracised him and his partner from upcoming events. His mum unsurprisingly still supports him and it turns out she was desperate for him to get back with his ex and was facilitating it all, but she didn't know I was pregnant until he got back and now she's trying to somehow act as a peace maker.

I don't want him back and have accepted he's with her, but I still feel hurt by the lack of respect and all the lies. Right now I'm trying to leave that in the past and focus on the fact that I'm lucky to have so much love and support from the people around me and I am very happy to become a mum. Next week I'm going to find out the gender which is really exciting.

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MangoPi · 28/03/2023 16:52

Glad to hear you are in a better place OP.

Of course the deception is going to sting for a while but just focus on the baby - you have something worthwhile from that relationship - and lets be honest he is probably going to do it again to his ex isn't he! Well off out of it and far away from it.

You sound very sensible and level headed so I have no doubt you'll be a great mum, alone or not.

Lwrenagain · 28/03/2023 17:27

I really enjoyed being a single parent, I was nearly 20 when I had my eldest.
It was tough and I didn't have much help but I had very much made my mind up that I'd happily do it alone again if I didn't meet someone I wanted to settle with.

It's not easy, it's tiring and you get moments that really are overwhelming, but I felt that with my other DC and my DP is amazing.
It's simply a difficult time until you're into a routine and your hormones aren't fucking you around.
But in my opinion and experience, having a child has made me happier than anything else, good times outweigh the bad.

You sound like you're in a great position financially and you have support.

Just do not give baby his surname. I also wouldn't do birth certificate with him on because my friends who have done this with men they've not known long have really been fucked over with that.

Good luck!

mephi · 28/03/2023 18:33

Step one I think should be to shake him off as quickly and unemotionally as possible if you can. And hope he moves on and doesn't decide he needs or wants anything. There are advantages to him now being as far away as poss and not on your doorstep to harass you. Smile, wave him off and then cut contact would be my advice. Once he's gone, asap, you can think what you will do. If you can gain the feeling that being a single parent is fine and strong then hopefully you can ahead with strength and be proud that you will be able to manage fine. Years ago I had that feeling of it being embarrassing and 'not common in my friendship group'. It wasn't a helpful viewpojnt for me. When my DS1 was 4, someone looked askance at me said 'but it's cool' and that for some reason changed my mind! You will be fine either way and this decision is yours either way. Just get rid of the baggage - ie this waste of space of a bloke. Don't engage in any nonsense about au pairs or anything. Maybe even say you are not keeping it for now ... and then you can decide in due course once you've got shot of him.

leonairs · 28/03/2023 18:36

I'd be aborting. Why would you want to be a single parent when you are still going to be able to meet someone and start a family properly?

mephi · 28/03/2023 18:42

Ah just read your last post. Thank goodness he's gone back. Good luck with it all OP!

Comii9 · 28/03/2023 20:29

Hi OP. I've read all your posts and your most recent update. Congratulations.

I hope I don't offend anybody on the thread but from what you put it sounds like he could be Nigerian? I'm sorry to stereotype and I don't want to offend you if that's your heritage so apologies.

I once got involved with a Nigerian man and honestly he treated me horrendously the heartbreak was unreal at the time I had a Son from a previously relationship. I didn't fall pregnant and I eventually stood strong and didn't run back to him.

You stay strong. You did right to encourage him to leave your house and as for your EXs family.... sorry but they likely won't be genuine do NOT get involved with them. Unless they are actually travelling on a plane to see your baby just don't bother. Don't forget in 3rd world Countries extended family will cover for their Sons.

Best of luck OP!! 💞

Bunny44 · 28/03/2023 21:32

Comii9 · 28/03/2023 20:29

Hi OP. I've read all your posts and your most recent update. Congratulations.

I hope I don't offend anybody on the thread but from what you put it sounds like he could be Nigerian? I'm sorry to stereotype and I don't want to offend you if that's your heritage so apologies.

I once got involved with a Nigerian man and honestly he treated me horrendously the heartbreak was unreal at the time I had a Son from a previously relationship. I didn't fall pregnant and I eventually stood strong and didn't run back to him.

You stay strong. You did right to encourage him to leave your house and as for your EXs family.... sorry but they likely won't be genuine do NOT get involved with them. Unless they are actually travelling on a plane to see your baby just don't bother. Don't forget in 3rd world Countries extended family will cover for their Sons.

Best of luck OP!! 💞

He's from South America. Sorry you had such a bad time with your ex!

Yes I'm not putting him on the birth certificate or giving my child his name - mainly for practical reasons.

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LooseGoose22 · 28/03/2023 22:05

I once got involved with a Nigerian man and honestly he treated me horrendously the heartbreak was unreal at the time

A lot of West Africa and elsewhere in Africa practices polygyny.

Also a lot of other places around the world ... People think it's only the middle east.

It may not be official polygyny a lot of time but it's pervasive.

Women from Europe etc are very very naive about it.

Bunny44 · 28/03/2023 23:15

@LooseGoose22 my ex partner is not from a country which practices polygyny. Although there is a lot of unfaithfulness, just like all of the world! I feel like that this is a bit of off topic...

My ex partner found the cultural shock of moving to the UK much worse than he anticipated. Also there was a cultural shock between us, which led a level of nostalgia he had about his recent ex to be very much amplified. I understand it, although I still feel that he handled it disrespectfully and immaturely. It was hurtful, but at the same time highlighted to me that I didn't want to be with someone like that anyway. I don't think we would have worked out in the long term and he would have been more stress than help.

I still feel sad that my child won't have thier father there and my ex is great with children so would have been a good dad, even if not a good partner. However the good part is that my child will have my own dad in their life who I know is an amazing father figure.

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LooseGoose22 · 28/03/2023 23:26

Sorry op, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick re my post; it was entirely in response to comil9, it was not a comment on your situation/thread.

Bunny44 · 28/03/2023 23:40

LooseGoose22 · 28/03/2023 23:26

Sorry op, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick re my post; it was entirely in response to comil9, it was not a comment on your situation/thread.

ok sure no prob :-)

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Bunny44 · 07/04/2023 10:35

I'm actually really struggling currently as my ex has started stating he wants nothing to do with the baby and that our relationship never happened and his mum is joining in and saying all sorts about me. I've only heard it 2nd hand but I feel awful that my ex has gone from really wanting a child to renouncing his child when they're on the way and even his grandmother. I feel really upset for my child who is innocent in this.

I know lots of men want nothing to do with their children, but he's someone who loves kids and has always wanted his own so even his wider family have found all this really shocking and to be honest I find it a dagger to my heart and I can't stop crying.

How do people cope with this rejection on behalf or their children?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/04/2023 11:09

It's their loss. You and your baby will be loved x

SheilaFentiman · 07/04/2023 11:25

Bunny44 · 07/04/2023 10:35

I'm actually really struggling currently as my ex has started stating he wants nothing to do with the baby and that our relationship never happened and his mum is joining in and saying all sorts about me. I've only heard it 2nd hand but I feel awful that my ex has gone from really wanting a child to renouncing his child when they're on the way and even his grandmother. I feel really upset for my child who is innocent in this.

I know lots of men want nothing to do with their children, but he's someone who loves kids and has always wanted his own so even his wider family have found all this really shocking and to be honest I find it a dagger to my heart and I can't stop crying.

How do people cope with this rejection on behalf or their children?

I’m so sorry, OP. Maybe this is to do with him getting back together with his ex.

your child has a brilliant mum in you and your family sounds lovely too.

tribpot · 07/04/2023 11:43

If you want any of his family to remain in contact with you and the baby, I think you need to tell them to stop telling you anything he or his mum have said. God knows why they're kicking off; you're on the far side of the Atlantic, you don't want anything from them, so if they want to pretend you and the baby don't exist, they can do that.

It's hardly news he wants nothing to do with the baby, his actions have been saying that for months. He was going to have no practical involvement anyway so he would have meant nothing to your baby really. His and his mum's actions only reflect on them, they're not about either of you. Put them out of your mind and focus on enjoying your pregnancy.

Daisydu · 07/04/2023 11:46

I’ve done the pregnancy and birth and first year alone twice. I won’t lie to you, there were times I did feel lonely, but, it wasn’t really hard as such. Infact I later had another baby with my ex husband and he was utterly useless and it was worse having a baby with a useless man than no man at all. You will absolutely be fine without him.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 07/04/2023 11:50

OP you'll be okay on your own. Your parents sound really supportive which is wonderful. Your baby doesn't need him or his family, and neither do you. You've got this Flowers

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 07/04/2023 12:17

As you and your friends hit their 40’s you’ll find a few of them end up single mothers.

UseOfWeapons · 07/04/2023 12:43

I’ve read all of your posts and glad you’ve got support, and that your ex has gone home.
His rejection of the baby, and the fact that it is his is sadly familiar to me. A friend of mine went through something similar many years ago, but her best move was to cut off all contact with him, and all of his family. It’s not helpful, and it’s a risk. Glad you’re leaving his name off the birth certificate, and hopefully, now, you will realise that having any of his family over to help you, is just not on. No matter how nice they are, you will be vulnerable to accusations of trafficking or slavery.
You’re going to be fine. Focus on you, your family, friends and the child to come. Don’t look back, for your child’s sake. Good luck.

chevvyroo · 07/04/2023 13:09

Hi OP. I'm sorry you are struggling. Your ex, honestly, the way he has been carrying on. He just is not a good person.

I would be cutting him and his entire family off. Blocked on socials, whatever. You seem keen on keeping some lines open, probably for your unborn child's sake but he's only causing you grief you don't need.

Bunny44 · 27/12/2023 23:49

Hello just another update - I had my lovely baby boy in September. We're living with my parents and it's working out pretty well. My mum is doing a lot better and has been able to help out - she was my birth partner and both my parents have been amazing. I found I had a great support network in my hometown with old friends, neighbours and family.

I lost my job a few months back but have a new one lined up on a high salary, so enough to provide well for us. He'll be 3 days in nursery and 2 days with my parents from 8 months. I'm planning to sell my house in London and buy in my home town.

I am still struggling emotionally over my ex. I think it's the deception and rejection of both of us, even though I know he isn't worth it, but it upsets me as I know I deserved better and that my son deserves so much better. I hope I can build a bright enough future that this doesn't matter.

I am in touch with the father who says he loves his son but I'm not seeing the actions to prove it. I didn't put him on the birth certificate and I named my son after my dad.

Rest of my ex's family is also in touch and supportive and seem to be in love with the baby. The partner doesn't speak to most of the family because of this.

Overall I'm feeling positive about the future and lucky to have such a lovely and healthy baby!

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Zonder · 28/12/2023 00:03

Congratulations OP. Thanks for the update - I remember your thread. So glad things have worked out for you. It really is his loss. You and your son will be absolutely fine.

RantyAnty · 28/12/2023 00:09

Have the baby if you want to.

Help pack cheater boy's bag and drop him off at the airport.

Bunny44 · 28/12/2023 08:57

@RantyAnty This is an old thread - I was providing an update. I did take him to the airport 🙂

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