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Uncomfortable with his ex

109 replies

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 10:31

I feel uncomfortable with the relationship he has with his ex. We live together and have been together for 4 years now, talking about getting married next year and the relationship is honestly better than I could have ever hoped for. This is the only gripe I have!

So he is still very friendly with his ex girlfriend, they have no kids together and still work together occasionally. They message every few days and go for dinner every few months which I didn't like but we agreed he would be open and honest about it so I wouldn't find out and he caught off guard. That has been ok so far (just had to deal with my demons).

Anyway this week he was away on a business trip for 2 days. When i was on my way to pick him up from the airport he txt me to say his ex was on the flight too as she had been on the trip. I just feel let down that he didn't communicate that to me before he left, if I hadn't been picking him up then he wouldn't have told me. If I mention it he says I should trust him and I do 100%, I know nothing happened with them. It's more the lack of respect for how I feel that hurts me. She gave me a dirty glare when I met him in arrivals. Am I being unreasonable and is it me who needs to get over this?

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Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 11:41

Thank you for the responses. Needed reassurance that it wasn't just me finding this situation weird. My ex husband cheated on me our whole relationship so I probably am more paranoid than I should be because of being hurt in the past. I firmly believe this is just a platonic friendship but I just don't like it and can't get over it

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Nixynic · 11/02/2023 11:42

I’d suggest fixing up a double date with her and her boyfriend. See how your DP reacts to this. And if it goes ahead you can see first hand how they interact with each other. If there is nothing going on and they are just platonic friends, then they should think a double date is a nice idea. If your boyfriend doesn’t want to do it then 🚩

Christmaspyjamas · 11/02/2023 11:43

Saying you have nothing to worry about because she is seeing someone is a pretty big clue

quietnightmare · 11/02/2023 11:44

As there are no kids involved this is ridiculous. I wouldn't be happy either

Tell him your going away for two nights and your ex will be there and see how he likes it

Pseudonamed · 11/02/2023 12:25

She gave you a glare? Something more is going on here OP. They are not just friends.

Watchkeys · 11/02/2023 12:34

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 11:41

Thank you for the responses. Needed reassurance that it wasn't just me finding this situation weird. My ex husband cheated on me our whole relationship so I probably am more paranoid than I should be because of being hurt in the past. I firmly believe this is just a platonic friendship but I just don't like it and can't get over it

But if you found a situation weird, that's that: you find it weird. Why do you need a forum to back up that you're 'right'? There is no right. We all feel whatever we feel, and we can't help it, so we have to look after ourselves by respecting it.

However unusual a feeling might be, we can't change it. Feelings are what they are, otherwise we'd all choose to hate cake and pizza, and love work and the gym.

Shgytfgtf111 · 11/02/2023 12:57

I'm confused as to why they are still so pally? Who broke it off?

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Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 13:27

I think she broke it off to be with this other guy (think she had both on the go).
They never lived together so don't know how serious it was. I know if I bring it up he will say I don't trust him and he doesn't like being accused when he has done nothing wrong. The more I think I wonder if this is the deal breaker in my happy ever after. I would never ask him to choose, a relationship with her is obviously important to him for whatever reason. It just doesn't work for me unfortunately

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RedDeath614 · 11/02/2023 13:33

Long post sorry, bear with me.

I was also in a relationship like this in my early twenties. It was very similar except my now ex and his ex had to go to the cinema together every week by themselves because "it was tradition" or some crap like that.

I was absolutely fine with it as I have/had no trust issues and knew we had an amazing sex life. However I had an older female friend at the time who made it clear this was not normal behaviour. I happily continued in my delusional world until his birthday rolled along.

I arranged to take the day off work to spend with him and asked what he wanted to do. This was a few weeks before his birthday. He said he'd think about it and let me know. Then a week or so before his birthday, after his regular cinema day with his ex, he sheepishly came to me at work (we all worked together too which didn't help 😂) and said he had something to tell me. Apparently his ex had arranged a surprise birthday party for him, at his flat, and had invited all of his friends. I said: "Ok, well, I didn't know about that but maybe we can go to it after we've spent the day together." And then he said: Errr...well...my ex said you're not invited because you're not fun." 😂😂😂

I laugh at it now because what a bloody ridiculous thing to say. The girl had never spoken a single word to me, or smiled at me. She didn't work at our workplace regularly but I still remember holding the door open for her once and she breezily glided through and blanked me. I remember thinking that was odd but thought nothing further.

What a sad case. She was clearly a few sandwiches short of a picnic to do all this.

I flew into a rage and quickly dumped him. A week or so after he came crawling back, apologising, but it still took him another few weeks after that before he told his ex all the secret cinema trips were off & he couldn't see her again. He didn't do the birthday party, I actually sat outside his house to check like a stalker as I had the day off work anyway & saw her storming off from his house in a huff & there was definitely no house party going on. We dated for at least another 18 months I think but guess what eventually broke us up? His ex, moving in with him!!! 😂🤦🏻‍♀️ He lived in a shared house (all males) and one of the guys was leaving and so they were looking for a new housemate. His ex had kept in touch with them all and accepted the invite. I couldn't deal with this madness so broke up with him which was really hard as I was in love with him.

My older friend at the time said something that's always stuck with me. She said he was allowing her or maybe both of them to have a fantasy relationship, because in her mind, she's still believing and acting like they're together. Friend felt vindicated when all this birthday crap happened and then when the ex had the gall to move into his house. And I hate to admit it but she was right.

They don't have to be sleeping together/having sex to still have an intimate bond and be fuelling this by refusing to allow new partners into their secret little world. It is unhealthy and I don't know how old you are OP but I'd honestly dump him and find a man who doesn't need to have his ex constantly hanging around like a bad smell.

The dirty looks I can relate to and aren't a good sign 🤷🏻‍♀️ Good luck OP, you can free yourself of this anxiety you're experiencing and find a good man 🙏🏼 Xx

abcdeg · 11/02/2023 13:33

There's nothing we can say here to improve this relationship. You've tried talking and he's basically blamed you for your lack of trust and denies there's any issue.

He's not the one for you. It's fair enough if someone has poor boundaries and at least listens to their partner when worried and does something about it. Not the case here.

I'd really just leave, it's not getting any better

Livinghappy · 11/02/2023 13:44

know if I bring it up he will say I don't trust him and he doesn't like being accused when he has done nothing wrong

This is not a good reaction. He is being defensive rather than understand your feelings. How would he feel if you went on a trip with your ex and didn't tell him? Especially if you were going to dinner with the same Ex.

Trust your instincts...you feel uneasy. If its all innocent why is he so defensive, why doesn't he introduce you and meet up for drinks.

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 13:58

@RedDeath614 thank you for taking the time to write that post. I am 36 he is 53 and she is in her 40s. We have a really good thing which is why I don't understand this need to have her in his life. His line when not talking about her is that men and women cannot just be friends?! He doesn't see the irony in what he is saying.

I know also he has talked to her about stuff in our relationship and my kids. That was something I was really clear on with him not to do. Honestly wanted to spend my life with this man but I hate how this makes me feel and he just doesn't get it or care

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1FootInTheRave · 11/02/2023 14:55

She doesn't sound like an ex to me. I wouldn't be surprised to find they're seeing each other.

Reugny · 11/02/2023 15:10

I am 36 he is 53

Dump him. He may be older than you but he has no emotional intelligence. There is nothing wrong with your senses, gut feeling and manners.

When I was dating in my late 30s I noticed that lots of the men in their 50s had none so went for men my own age or younger.

Oh and any friends of his regardless of sex should be trying to befriend you not alienate you.

Christmaspyjamas · 11/02/2023 15:20

I think you were just a bit infatuated. I don't think you want a lifelong situation like this where your relationship is constantly scrutinised by his ex.

This makes it worse...I thought we were talking about a guy in his 20s.

Believe me he knows exactly what he is doing.

He hid the recent trip. He only told you when he was about to be found out. So I'd be surprised if there wasn't more he was hiding.

Also if she glared at you guess what...it's because he has told her things about you to make her dislike you.

GreyCarpet · 11/02/2023 15:45

I know if I bring it up he will say I don't trust him and he doesn't like being accused when he has done nothing wrong

But you won't he accusing him of anything.

It just doesn't work for me unfortunately

That's all you need to say.

I'm going to he blunt here.

I wonder how much of this (on his part) is that he likes being with you because of your age. This is the official relationship he gets to present to the world - him with a younger woman; having sex with a younger woman. But actually he prefers to spend time with her because they are more compatible?

I don't know, maybe clutching at straws but an awful lot of 53 year old men would give their eye teeth to be dating someone in their mid 30s. In many cases though it's the kudos of dating someone younger that they're attracted to.

GreyCarpet · 11/02/2023 15:46

Believe me he knows exactly what he is doing.

This.

There's a lot of rhetoric around men being a bit clueless, not knowing what they want, not understanding the impact of what they say/do, not meaning anything by it...

They know and understand all of it.

GreyCarpet · 11/02/2023 15:50

And I'm not suggesting this is you but there are some younger women dating older men who assume they'll be safe from him cheating or whatever because he'll be aware he's unlikely to get another 30something girlfriend and will consider himself lucky. It doesn't work like that.

in short, don't let the fact this woman is in her 40s give you a false sense of security.

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 15:55

@GreyCarpet I hadn't thought of it like that. Maybe he they are more compatible, they have similar background and work in the same field. I need to talk to him as I am not happy with this situation. We get along really well and it is all just so easy. We have an amazing sex life and I felt like we had both hit the jackpot!

I think you could be right in so much as he is getting something from her (not physical) that he isn't getting from me

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CopperMaran · 11/02/2023 15:57

GreyCarpet · 11/02/2023 15:46

Believe me he knows exactly what he is doing.

This.

There's a lot of rhetoric around men being a bit clueless, not knowing what they want, not understanding the impact of what they say/do, not meaning anything by it...

They know and understand all of it.

Totally agree. My sister finished with her first boyfriend after 2 years together. He never stopped loving her and they remained emotionally close even though they both had other partners for years… right up until he got together with his now wife.

Christmaspyjamas · 11/02/2023 16:03

Well obviously yes he is spending time with her because he gets things from that relationship he doesn't get in his relationship with you.

He's not doing it because he's a nice guy.

He's doing it for the benefits.

I think you need to understand his ability and enthusiasm to truly commit because at the moment he isn't. He's just getting different needs met by two separate women and it's a way to avoid truly committing to either of you.

airfryerandelectricblanket · 11/02/2023 16:04

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 13:27

I think she broke it off to be with this other guy (think she had both on the go).
They never lived together so don't know how serious it was. I know if I bring it up he will say I don't trust him and he doesn't like being accused when he has done nothing wrong. The more I think I wonder if this is the deal breaker in my happy ever after. I would never ask him to choose, a relationship with her is obviously important to him for whatever reason. It just doesn't work for me unfortunately

But he has done something wrong...

He's hidden from you the fact that she was going too.

He's also discussing you and your kids with her.

If nothing else, this is inappropriate.

You want a partner who is open and honest with you and who is not doing things behind your back!

BrightSaturn · 11/02/2023 16:07

I’m sorry but I couldn’t be ok with this. You’re much more relaxed than I could be!

GreyCarpet · 11/02/2023 16:10

Scouse568 · 11/02/2023 15:55

@GreyCarpet I hadn't thought of it like that. Maybe he they are more compatible, they have similar background and work in the same field. I need to talk to him as I am not happy with this situation. We get along really well and it is all just so easy. We have an amazing sex life and I felt like we had both hit the jackpot!

I think you could be right in so much as he is getting something from her (not physical) that he isn't getting from me

It's shit, it really is.

I also say something else. He's nearly 20 years older than you. I've always taken a dim view of such big age differences because, in most cases, it points to totally different life stages, experiences, expectations etc.

But a couple of years ago, I had a fling with a man who was nearly 20 years my junior.

It made me realise that, when you are the younger party, age is just a number. Hpwever, when you are the older party, all of the differences stand out like a shining beacon. I felt very uncomfortable with some of the big differences and I really felt the difference in power dynamic. I felt very uncomfortable being seen out with soneone who was clearly young enough to be my son! His naivety and lack of life experience really stood out to me. Now, obviously mid 20s is very different to mid 30s but the 20 years of extra life, experiences and opportunities are the same.

I've gone from taking a dim view to being very suspicious of the motivations of men who date someone so much younger.

You're in your prime. You deserve such better than this.