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New Fab & Glam (Part 3 - The Quest Continues!)

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Paddlechick666 · 05/02/2008 10:18

Here we go ladies!

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TimeForMe · 12/02/2008 13:43

Take your laptop Dior

TimeForMe · 12/02/2008 13:45

By the way PC, your hair does look lovely just as it is, your FB pictures are great. Your H will be kicking himself

Paddlechick666 · 12/02/2008 14:20

thanks TFM. I might skip the hairdresser tomorrow as it's all getting a bit hard to schedule and i am still feeling pretty grotty.

would prefer to drop dd and come home and try to sleep again.

trouble is i kinda hafta be out the house by 3:30/4pm as cleaner here (and she doesn't like me here when she cleans!) and not meeting till after 5pm.

hence a cunning plan to have a cut n dry before the meet.

we'll see........

off to soak in hot bath now.

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TimeForMe · 12/02/2008 14:24

Okay, well, in that case, stick to your original plan and take makeup essentials with you for touch up. You could also take hair bands or whatever you use to tie hair up or make something different of it should you not like it when hairdresser has finished. If you don;t mind me saying, I think a bit of pampering before you meet him will do wonders for your esteem.
Enjoy your soak!

Paddlechick666 · 12/02/2008 17:07

thanks, i had a lovely hour in the bath then watched Torchwood.

off to pick up dd in a minute so hopefully a cruisy bath and bed.

head still bad but not as bad, steam seems to help.

i'll see how i feel in the morning wrt hair appt.

didn't get my forms done!

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Dior · 13/02/2008 08:18

Message withdrawn

Paddlechick666 · 13/02/2008 11:30

morning everyone

how're we all doing?

i am getting a bit nervous about this evening.

mixed messages from H are freaking me out a bit. feel sick at the thought of what i have to tell him.

and it's the anniversary of our very first date today!

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TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 11:44

Morning Ladies

Hi PC

Please, try not to feel bad about telling H about the divorce. I understand why you do, you are a nice person and you don't want to hurt him, regardless of the hurt he has caused you. But PC, sometimes, you just have to put yourself and your own feelings first and that is what you are doing. You are on the way to a brand new life, a different life and a whole new you! This is the is major first step for you, putting your needs before his. You should be very proud of yourself. This isn't about you setting out to cause H any pain, it's about you protecting yourself, not allowing this hurtful situation to continue.

xxx

Baffy · 13/02/2008 11:58

Morning everyone

PC, not surprised you feel the way you do. Like TFM says, it's because you're such a nice, thoughtful and genuine person, that you don't want to hurt him. But he's left you no choice.

Don't forget, if you two really are meant to be, then things will work out. But that could never happen until you take back some control and he fully understands that he can't get away with treating you like sh*t.
Lets face it, if he just rolls over and accepts the divorce, then he never was in any way able to fight for your marriage anyway. It can never work unless you both want it as much as each other

Stay strong. You can do it. Have you been practising the silence thing?!

Things for me are very very weird. If I'm totally honest, I'm ranging from total relief at knowing the truth, to unbelievable hurt and anger at what he's done, to wondering if there is any hope for us in the future

To complicate things I have also been in touch with NM. Don't tell me off! But I've had so many apologies over his behaviour and explanations about why he behaved as he did and what he's learnt from it by losing me.
All words maybe?! But even so, he's making me feel a million dollors.

(No lectures though! I'm very fragile!!)

TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 12:09

No lectures Baffy

You have to do whatever is best for you! You have do do whatever it takes to get your through each day so, if that means allowing NM back in for a while then, so be it! You have a good idea of the kind of man he is so, you take he good bits and kick him to the kerb as soon as he starts being a naughty boy again! you are in control of your life, you choose what you will allow into it and what you won't. And, you can ask advice, you can seek approval BUT, at the end of the day it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks!

Also, to both you and PC, sometimes, you have to actually leave in order to go back. Divorce signals the closure of one door but, it opens up another one.

You will be fine! You will both be fine. Even after divorce, there is no rush to move on and leave the ex'es behind. Divorec means the end of the marriage, not the end of the relationship, you will always have some sort of relationship with your ex'es because of the children. And who knows what the future will bring xx

Paddlechick666 · 13/02/2008 12:11

thanks ladies, i am trying to imagine scenarios where i keep quiet but even in my head that's tricky! god knows if i'll manage it tonight.

baffy, whatever gets you thru mate. no tickings off from me! the range of emotions are perfectly normal.

you and i are at the beginning of the "redefinition road" i think. that's why our emotionas are all over the place and why there is still a part of us that wonders if there can be a future.

had our relationships broken down in a normal (what is that anyway!) way then we probably wouldn't be riding the rollercoaster that we are.

when i wobble, i keep coming back to the Teabags wise words about shaping my own future and taking back control thus defining how i choose to be treated in future.

several times i've wished i could just say to H "can't we have a normal separation like other people" but given that we clearly didn't have a "normal" marriage it hasn't been possible.

fwiw, i think H is struggling with this redefinition too which is explains his mixed messages.

i just have to stay on my own track tho and not let his behaviour de-rail me.

if NM is making you feel good and as long as you're up front and honest about where you're at, what you want and what you expect then i don't see the harm.

the main thing is that you don't get hurt any more by anybody!

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Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:13

Thank you

I'm just doing whatever it takes to get me through the days at the moment. So many questions and 'what-if's' in my head that I need some time to work through it all!

Not sure about a relationship with NM again. Well definitely nothing serious. It's good we both know where we stand and are really honest about that now. But as for some 'no strings' time in the bedroom... well that's stress relief at it's best!!

Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:17

Thanks PC. That's the good thing - I've learnt the heartache that lies cause so have the strength to be totally honest with NM about everything. Then it's up to him if he wants to be involved with me, on my terms for now, or not.

Totally agree about not getting hurt being the main thing. I'm doing everything I can to make sure that doesn't ever happen again.

At first I was worried about me being the one who hurts NM. Being on the rebound and looking for the perfect guy etc. But this time is so much easier as we both know the truth and exactly where we stand.

Might regret my last post though!

Paddlechick666 · 13/02/2008 12:22

lol, my definition of "no strings" bedroom time is not having dd in my bed at some time in the night.

i am and that it's coming up to a year since i had any bedroom action that didn't involve wrestling the duvet into it's cover!

that has to be the longest drought i have ever had!

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Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:25

PMSL PC!!

Wrestling the duvet cover in particular!
Don't make me laugh in work!!

TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 12:27

There is no such thing as 'normal' PC I learned that a long time ago.. What is one persons 'normal' it totaly different to another person. Thats why you should always listen to yourself, do whats best for you.

As for H and not keeping quiet. You don't have to keep totally quiet but, when you do speak, make sure you get across that you are going ahead with the divorce more for him than yourself that you wanted nothing more than the marriage to work but, you have realised that he values his freedom so, you feel you are giving him the best gift you could ever give him
Then sit back, be silent and wait....... Give him an opportunity to speak. It may be that you can get to the bottom of a few things tonight if you play your cards right.

What you don't want to do is go overboard on the blame, you don't want to have him running for the door and hibernating until spring! I totally understand that you will want to, I also think you have every right to but, at this point, you are trying to win his trust, to get him to communicate with you. You can always arrange another meet up to give him a blasting depending on how well it goes tonight

Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:35

Good advice TFM

Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:39

My memory is awful - is it lilyloo's dh who is the mortgage advisor?

Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:42

Yes I think it is... it may be dp though??

Anyway, if you see this lilyloo just have a look...

here

TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 12:43

Yes Baffy, it is

TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 12:45

I meant 'Yas Baffy it is' with regard to Lilyloo's DH. Not 'yes Baffy it is' with regard to my advice

Baffy · 13/02/2008 12:55

Thanks

Paddlechick666 · 13/02/2008 13:12

cooking with gas today ladies!

dropped papers back to sol, went to PO and just completed my tax credits forms.

trifling little things but sometimes i find it impossible to actually get this sort of thing done.

about to do some pre-cleaner tidying and jump in the shower. intend to head out before 4pm. prob meet H about 5:30ish so will head for the bookshop then the coffee shop, or pub

TFM, like your delivery style. will try to remember it!

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Baffy · 13/02/2008 13:16

lol at 'pre-cleaner tidying'!

I'd say pub. But depends how you are after 1 too many?! Could help with the nerves though...

TimeForMe · 13/02/2008 13:23

When you feel the urge to blast him just take a deep breath and recite baa baa black sheep, when you get to the end of it the moment will have passed. It really does work!

We will be thinking of you and sending you good vibes. I hope you come away from this meeting with everything you want from it PC xxx

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