Lab created diamond

[pocketvenuss]

What do people think of lab created diamonds. They are the same molecular structure and are actual diamonds. Only specialist jewellers with specific devices that can allow the differences in the inclusions that indicate lab growth rather than natural.
Would you be happy with a lab grown diamond engagement ring?
On the plus side they are miles cheaper and conflict free. On the negative side, they are somehow not the same as a 'naturally created' diamond even though they are real diamonds.
But then again real diamond prices are artificially boosted by DeBeers.

Think it's fine OP. I'd prefer a vintage ring myself, 1920s if possible.

Diamonds aren't rare. They're the most common gemstones. Most people have at least one and know someone who has one. Those who don't have one have likely seen one. Unlike moissanites and other gems.

Check out the links shared for lab grown and moissanites.

OK I see what you're saying, except the fact they can be created means they are not limited. Supply and demand therefore dictates that they will become available to everyone and the price will fall.... making them costume jewellery

How are they costume jewellery any more than a mined or vintage one is? They're the same thing.

As PP said, it's the equivalent of saying IVF babies aren't real babies.

It's the rarity that's different. As I say, snob value. Not good, but there it is. It would feel like a fake to me and I'd know it wasn't 'real'.

As for IVF, OK if we're going to do this:

The only difference for an IVF baby is location of the mechanics. The process is exactly the same Egg + sperm.
That can't be said with lab diamonds: Millions of years, or out of a factory.
Man made v's machine made.

Fundamentally different.

Why would I want something made by a machine that anyone can have. My diamond is the only one in the world. It's unique.

Although I didn't type it correctly!! Man made v's nature (doh)

Unique seems irrelevant if a child died to obtain it…

I'd prefer lab if buying now. The look of the ring would be more important to me than where it came from, and I like the idea of better value and better ethics

There are lots of diamonds (real) will need homes if the lab ones take off. Prices may come down in the long run.
An old one has already 'done' the damage (blood etc.) the only people losing out will be the jewellers, traders etc. if no-one buys real ones. Especially new real ones.
I have a very old diamond in a new setting.

But is gold, platinum free of pain as well? Just a thought... I'm going to have a look while we are on this subject.

Mine came from Canada. Ethical diamonds do exist.

I do however take your point

Is a baby born through IVF less of a human than one conceived naturally?

The diamond mining industry is counting on suckers not wanting to feel cheap. Lab grown and mined are exactly the same, and only a fool would pay more for the same thing.

I see the IVF argument has already been made (I'd only read page 1). Soz.

@Sunsetintheeast hate to break it to you but there's nothing more unique about a natural grown diamond than a lab grown. Both have unique flaws from the compression. Natural diamonds are not rare either. They're actually one of the most common gems there are. It's just de beers have a monopoly on the supply

I’ve said it makes no sense, I’m a snob, but I’ve come to terms with that. I also understand the basis of my views, you’re not making a big reveal.

😂its not the same, chemically yes, but not in origin. Hence why you can’t sell lab grown without telling people.

I’ll be dead before my diamond is relegated to trinket. I’m happy

Diamond rings are marketing people used to wear just bands so all for the sustainable options

Personally, I wouldn't want a lab one. One was made in nature over millions of years and one was knocked up by an apprentice in a couple of months. Just doesn't carry the same weight (pardon the pun).

And no nothing like a human being! Jeez, who'd even compare the two.

Might be worth looking to see what you could buy vintage for the same money. The link is to the catalogue for one of the more expensive jewellery auctions some of the prices are eye-watering but some are quite reasonable for a simple solitaire etc. Also a range of other stones in various settings so you could get something pretty unique.

www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/elmwoods/catalogue-id-elmwoo10194?utm_source=sr-amp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=elmwoods&utm_term=20230103-srx-j&utm_content=elmwoo10194-browsecta&page=9

Eh?

There are over a million children working in diamond mines, many of them as slaves. Unless you can be absolutely sure your diamonds are ethical then I would much prefer one knocked up in a lab by an apprentice to one prised out of the ground by a child

I would happily wear a lab created diamond but to me I would class it as costume jewellery,and would never claim it was the real deal, I would feel a fraud to claim otherwise. Oh and by the way everyone up in arms and rightly so about children working the diamond mines, the same is happening to children mining for cobalt, (40,000 children at the last count) for batteries for your EV cars and mobiles.

That's why I buy my tech second hand too. Its not a perfect solution but it feels slightly better whilst we are waiting for better technology which doesn't require cobalt or other minerals mined by hand to come along

@Letitrainletitrainletitrain honestly, I'd rather go without than wear lab. That doesn't automatically mean I am ok with diamonds mined by children.