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Think I've destroyed my marriage and family because of a lie I told 14 years ago! HELP!!

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ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 13:34

This is a long one so apologies in advance!! My DH and I have been together for 14 happy years, the last 7 of those married. He’s the most incredible and amazing person I’ve ever met and we have had the best fun and loving relationship I could have wished for plus now our amazing little family on top of all that. But, I think something I did 14 years ago may have just completely destroyed it all…..

3 months into our relationship (almost 14 years ago) I received an email from my ex containing friendly chat and asking me to design him a tattoo. I replied with equally friendly chat and said I’d design the tattoo. My memory is failing me with some of the details surrounding the event as it’s so long ago but my DH (bf at the time) was massively unimpressed when he found out I’d emailed him back – I said I’d replied with friendly chat and told my DH that moving forward I wouldn’t design the tattoo and wouldn’t reply to my ex again, and I stuck to my word. However, and this is the hazy area but a key point, I did tell my DH that I’d mentioned him to my ex in the email and said how amazing he was. DH seemed okay. Case dropped. We moved on continuing to be loved up and happy.

Fast forward 14 years…..still loved up and happy but….DH and I have a heated conversation, jealousy kicking in over my past and previous relationships (this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance). Said email mentioned above comes into the conversation and he’s saying how can I believe you, how do I know you didn’t reply again blah blah blah. I said I’ll see if I can find the email and show it to you because I wanted to prove to him and make him feel better. Well what a can of worms that has opened up…….we found the email trail containing the friendly chat and showing no further follow-up, but no mention of me telling my ex about my DH, in fact no mention of him at all. My DH has absolutely flipped saying that I’ve lied to him and betrayed him and been completely dishonest which I think he’s within his rights to say and that I chose my ex over him as should never have emailed in the first place. But he’s also saying that I must have still had feelings for my ex, must have wanted to re-kindle something with him, the content was far too personal and friendly. He simply will not believe that this wasn’t the case however much I try to reassure him. And let me tell you, that absolutely was not the case – my ex was controlling to the extreme and made life hellish the majority of the time however the breakup, when I finally plucked up courage to leave him, was amicable and we did exchange sporadic messages as friends on and off in the following months. My DH is interpreting it completely wrong and the daft thing is that I feel like I only replied to my ex in the first place because of my own insecurities/jealousy over my DH’s past. It just all feels like such a mess over something that isn’t significant at all in my mind (although obviously the consequences are) but is HUGE in my DH’s mind and nothing I seem to say or do is fixing it. I have honestly believed for the last 14 years (as has he) that I said that in the email but it’s clearly not there in writing – I either bare face lied or it’s in some other correspondence that I have zero trace of…?! And the thing is, I don’t know which is true and will never know now!!!

Now is also probably a good point to mentioned the other issue I’ve caused, and there is a link – that I lied to my DH when we first got together – I was intimidated by his past and felt threatened by it which led to feeling insecure and jealous. So for some ridiculous reason I bigged up my past sex life up to something fairly extreme, stupid I know, but that’s all come back to bite recently too. I have now been completely honest with him about that and explained why I felt the need to glorify things but again, and again unsurprisingly, he doesn’t believe me and can’t take my word as the truth. Understandably he’s saying I’ve lied to him over the last 14 years and what else is a lie, how can he trust me etc. etc. The problem with telling him the “honest” bit here is that the past basically boils down to sex with the ex in the email above so DH is thinking I had some amazing sex life with my ex that I was trying to rekindle in the email. Aaaarghhh!!!!

I feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I’ve done this, I can’t sleep and it’s making me feel ill. How can I ever put this right if my DH won’t believe me when I explain my feelings for him and how amazing he is and how happy and in love I am with him. I don’t want this to destroy my marriage and my family who are all perfect in every way!! What have I done!!!

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 14:48

billy1966 · 13/12/2022 14:48

Have you children?

Have I read that correctly?

If you haven't children, get some therapy and get the hell away from him.

They have children.

cristinayangstwistedsister · 13/12/2022 14:50

If this is real then you seriously need to
Look at this relationship, he sounds like a controlling arse

RottingAutumnApples · 13/12/2022 14:50

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 14:41

  1. yes
  2. yes
  3. not the day but say a particular topic
  4. I don' think so

Oh OP, this is not normal. This is controlling.

I bet the ‘loving, amazing’ H is how he rewards you for being ‘obedient’. The angry H is how he keeps you obedient, by reminding you of how you will be punished if you aren’t.

Thing is, you are so obedient he has nothing to use against you to remind you to keep in line. So he has to drag up this non- event from 14 years ago. Just so he has an excuse to get angry, to remind you of what you are need to avoid by being ‘good’.

i think you have been so conditioned over the years you can’t even see any of this. Instead you blame yourself for making him angry, like he wants you to.

TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 14:51

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 14:41

  1. yes
  2. yes
  3. not the day but say a particular topic
  4. I don' think so

I'm sorry to be right. But not surprised.

You have avoided doing things, going places, spending time with people because of your DH's reaction and there are certain topics you avoid for the same reason? This is not a healthy relationship and has not been for a long time. You just didn't realise it.

Can you tell us some examples? I suspect in your head they're minor but in reality, not so much....

PinsetAndTwirls · 13/12/2022 14:51

I get it from his point of view because he has been cheated on in past relationships and his dad abandoned him as a child so of course he's going to have issues with insecurity and abandonment, that's not his fault

It's not his fault, but it is his responsibility to do something about it (counselling?)

It is not your job to fix him.

It's too easy to say LTB from behind a keyboard, but he does need to get his jealousy issues sorted out. It's normal to be jealous if your husband/wife starts to become close to someone new. It isn't normal to be jealous of the past. I don't even know how many partners my partner had before me, and he doesn't know that about me either. It isn't relevant to our relationship now, just as yours isn't relevant to your marriage.

Dullardmullard · 13/12/2022 14:52

Time for counselling for you not him just you to untie yourself from his abuse cos that’s what it is.

SinnerBoy · 13/12/2022 14:52

BellePeppa

You’re not destroying your marriage your moron of a husband is.

That sums it up well, I agree 100%. He's jealous and making a mountain out of a molehill.

My first serious girlfriend (from 16 to 26) got very upset, after we'd been together for about 2 years. She was crying and said it would be the end of it. A couple of months after we'd been seeing each other, she'd shagged someone else a couple of times.

I wasn't delighted, but I told her it was fine, as nobody really knows if "You're The One" at an early stage.

TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 14:52

Also, to be cynical, are you 100% certain that he's been cheated on in the past? Because something I've learnt about men like this is that they may well believe they've been cheated on, but that's only because they had the same crazy irrational response to their ex. BIL will soon be out there dating new women and telling them that his insecurity is because SIL cheated on him and was abusive. Spoiler alert.... totally not true.

MysteryBelle · 13/12/2022 14:56

Does he also remind you when you’ve forgotten to even up the bathroom towels?

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NoDairyNoProblem · 13/12/2022 14:58

You are not the one destroying your marriage here. Your husband sounds unhinged!

JoyfulGirl · 13/12/2022 14:59

Your husband is a controlling arsehole and his behaviour is completely unjustified.

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 15:00

TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 14:51

I'm sorry to be right. But not surprised.

You have avoided doing things, going places, spending time with people because of your DH's reaction and there are certain topics you avoid for the same reason? This is not a healthy relationship and has not been for a long time. You just didn't realise it.

Can you tell us some examples? I suspect in your head they're minor but in reality, not so much....

I've said I can't go on certain nights out. If we go to a place I've been before with someone else then I feel I can't say that in case it conjures up jealous thoughts for him. I feel like I can't talk about past events say uni because I was with my ex at the time and he'll possibly associate my fond memory as a fond memory of my ex. But I don't know if this is him or my issue as a result of controlling ex. 😞

OP posts:
DirectionToPerfection · 13/12/2022 15:01

Your husband sounds deranged OP.

You haven't done anything wrong but he has clearly conditioned you to believe you have. As a PP said, he has done a number on you.

Please read and reread all the comments here. You badly need some perspective here and you need to stand up for yourself.

ArabellaScott · 13/12/2022 15:02

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TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 15:03

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 15:00

I've said I can't go on certain nights out. If we go to a place I've been before with someone else then I feel I can't say that in case it conjures up jealous thoughts for him. I feel like I can't talk about past events say uni because I was with my ex at the time and he'll possibly associate my fond memory as a fond memory of my ex. But I don't know if this is him or my issue as a result of controlling ex. 😞

Why do you feel you can't go on certain nights out?

For the others, for YEARS we thought that SIL's worry about "oh, I must get back because BIL will be upset that I'm not there" was all in her head. Hollow laugh.

easily checked though. Now that you're aware of it, next time you find yourself instinctively deciding not to do something or say something, do it. And note his reaction....

Puppers · 13/12/2022 15:03

this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance

That’s not normal in a healthy, adult relationship. Grown ups don’t feel jealous and need to be reassured about their partner’s past - certainly not a decade and a half into a relationship where you’re married and have children! That’s absolutely crazy and is not something that you should be subjected to.

Unfortunately you don’t seem to know what a healthy relationship actually looks like and so you have a very skewed perspective about what constitutes a “normal” marriage. I think you would massively benefit from some counselling but absolutely NOT with your husband, who is controlling you. You need some counselling on your own to help you understand the situation you are in. It sounds very much like you’ve traded one abusive relationship for another, and because you perceive this one to be somehow ‘less abusive’, you think that means it’s a good relationship. Also certain behaviours are normalised in your mind because now multiple men have treated you this way.

Please stop stressing and tying yourself up in knots about whatever you said or didn’t say or who you spoke to 14 years ago. You haven’t jeopardised your family whatsoever. All of this is 100% caused by his jealousy and insecurity and his choice to allow those feelings to drive him into controlling and emotionally abusing you.

devildeepbluesea · 13/12/2022 15:03

Wow. If I ever want to give someone an example of being gaslit I’ll show them this thread.

Why are you trying to analyse his “feelings”? I’d bet my pension that your DH is LOVING this hold over you. What an arsehole.

You’re obviously going to beg and plead your way into his good books but what you should do is take your kids away from this maniac as quickly as possible.

TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 15:04

Also, another way to check... you have been doing this for a long time, but there must ave been times you slipped. Think back carefully - can you remember any times where perhaps you had an argument about something to do with your uni? Or maybe a situation where he got upset b because he booked a restaurant and then you mentioned you'd been ther before?

Nosleepforthismum · 13/12/2022 15:04

I get it from his point of view because he has been cheated on in past relationships and his dad abandoned him as a child so of course he's going to have issues with insecurity and abandonment, that's not his fault.

God, I actually hate people like this when they use shitty things in their past to get away with doing shitty things in the present. So what that he’s been cheated on? So have a vast amount of people. His dad leaving, although sad, is not an excuse to be controlling and reduce to you to this state over an email from 14 years ago. What a pathetic excuse of a man.

ArabellaScott · 13/12/2022 15:05

Well, it doesn't matter whether OPs husband is doing it consciously or unconsciously.

The end result is the same: a woman who is scared to talk about certain subjects, go to certain places; whose life is limited by anxiety over what her husband's response will be.

His motivations don't really matter; what matters is how it affects OP.

BT11 · 13/12/2022 15:05

You're an adult. You can email whoever you like. His lack of trust is concerning

LazyJayne · 13/12/2022 15:05

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 15:00

I've said I can't go on certain nights out. If we go to a place I've been before with someone else then I feel I can't say that in case it conjures up jealous thoughts for him. I feel like I can't talk about past events say uni because I was with my ex at the time and he'll possibly associate my fond memory as a fond memory of my ex. But I don't know if this is him or my issue as a result of controlling ex. 😞

Yeah none of that’s normal OP.

How does he respond when you go out to see friends/your family?

SinnerBoy · 13/12/2022 15:06

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage

I've said I can't go on certain nights out. If we go to a place I've been before with someone else then I feel I can't say that in case it conjures up jealous thoughts for him.

He is excessively jealous and controlling. This is not the behaviour of a normal person. Most people can be a bit jealous, but keep their feelings under control.

He's letting his feelings rule him and ruin you. You must take steps to get rid of him, he is not a good person in any way.

WetLettuce2 · 13/12/2022 15:07

Why are you putting up with this nonsense?
Loving partners do not behave like this.

waterrat · 13/12/2022 15:07

Firstly Op there is no 'normal ' jealousy. Your partner is abusive, controlling and his jealousy is the problem here - nothing you have done.

Please see a therapist and find someone to talk this through with safely so you can escape this relationship.