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Think I've destroyed my marriage and family because of a lie I told 14 years ago! HELP!!

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ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 13:34

This is a long one so apologies in advance!! My DH and I have been together for 14 happy years, the last 7 of those married. He’s the most incredible and amazing person I’ve ever met and we have had the best fun and loving relationship I could have wished for plus now our amazing little family on top of all that. But, I think something I did 14 years ago may have just completely destroyed it all…..

3 months into our relationship (almost 14 years ago) I received an email from my ex containing friendly chat and asking me to design him a tattoo. I replied with equally friendly chat and said I’d design the tattoo. My memory is failing me with some of the details surrounding the event as it’s so long ago but my DH (bf at the time) was massively unimpressed when he found out I’d emailed him back – I said I’d replied with friendly chat and told my DH that moving forward I wouldn’t design the tattoo and wouldn’t reply to my ex again, and I stuck to my word. However, and this is the hazy area but a key point, I did tell my DH that I’d mentioned him to my ex in the email and said how amazing he was. DH seemed okay. Case dropped. We moved on continuing to be loved up and happy.

Fast forward 14 years…..still loved up and happy but….DH and I have a heated conversation, jealousy kicking in over my past and previous relationships (this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance). Said email mentioned above comes into the conversation and he’s saying how can I believe you, how do I know you didn’t reply again blah blah blah. I said I’ll see if I can find the email and show it to you because I wanted to prove to him and make him feel better. Well what a can of worms that has opened up…….we found the email trail containing the friendly chat and showing no further follow-up, but no mention of me telling my ex about my DH, in fact no mention of him at all. My DH has absolutely flipped saying that I’ve lied to him and betrayed him and been completely dishonest which I think he’s within his rights to say and that I chose my ex over him as should never have emailed in the first place. But he’s also saying that I must have still had feelings for my ex, must have wanted to re-kindle something with him, the content was far too personal and friendly. He simply will not believe that this wasn’t the case however much I try to reassure him. And let me tell you, that absolutely was not the case – my ex was controlling to the extreme and made life hellish the majority of the time however the breakup, when I finally plucked up courage to leave him, was amicable and we did exchange sporadic messages as friends on and off in the following months. My DH is interpreting it completely wrong and the daft thing is that I feel like I only replied to my ex in the first place because of my own insecurities/jealousy over my DH’s past. It just all feels like such a mess over something that isn’t significant at all in my mind (although obviously the consequences are) but is HUGE in my DH’s mind and nothing I seem to say or do is fixing it. I have honestly believed for the last 14 years (as has he) that I said that in the email but it’s clearly not there in writing – I either bare face lied or it’s in some other correspondence that I have zero trace of…?! And the thing is, I don’t know which is true and will never know now!!!

Now is also probably a good point to mentioned the other issue I’ve caused, and there is a link – that I lied to my DH when we first got together – I was intimidated by his past and felt threatened by it which led to feeling insecure and jealous. So for some ridiculous reason I bigged up my past sex life up to something fairly extreme, stupid I know, but that’s all come back to bite recently too. I have now been completely honest with him about that and explained why I felt the need to glorify things but again, and again unsurprisingly, he doesn’t believe me and can’t take my word as the truth. Understandably he’s saying I’ve lied to him over the last 14 years and what else is a lie, how can he trust me etc. etc. The problem with telling him the “honest” bit here is that the past basically boils down to sex with the ex in the email above so DH is thinking I had some amazing sex life with my ex that I was trying to rekindle in the email. Aaaarghhh!!!!

I feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I’ve done this, I can’t sleep and it’s making me feel ill. How can I ever put this right if my DH won’t believe me when I explain my feelings for him and how amazing he is and how happy and in love I am with him. I don’t want this to destroy my marriage and my family who are all perfect in every way!! What have I done!!!

OP posts:
GerbilsForever24 · 13/12/2022 14:37

SafferUpNorth · 13/12/2022 14:35

THIS.
OP, you're NOT in the wrong. Everyone tells white lies early on in a relationship. He's being a sh*t and needs professional help to get past his issues. Or he's just plain emotionally abusive and lovely husband mask is starting to slip....

Yes, after our second date DH went away to visit family for 3 weeks. We weren't in a full on relationship and I'm 90% certain that he hooked up with an old flame while he was away and I definitely flirted my way round a number of bars during the same time. Neither of us came clean nor talk about this because what is the point? Does not impact how much we trust each other today. That was at a very different time in our lives and different place in our relationship.

Rowthe · 13/12/2022 14:38

He sounds pretty abusive.

Have you any kids with him? Cos i couldnt deal with this much crap

BellePeppa · 13/12/2022 14:38

You’re not destroying your marriage your moron of a husband is.

Over40Overdating · 13/12/2022 14:38

I think OP your story also proves the truth of the saying - when someone shows you who they are they first time, believe them.

His response to his very new girlfriend emailing an ex was to lay the law down and make you feel so insecure and in the wrong you told some silly lies to make yourself ‘worthy’ of him.

People without your history of abuse would have told him to sling his manipulative hook - when you didn’t, he took full advantage of your vulnerability and has kept you on eggshells for 14 years.

It’s nothing to do with you and everything to do with him being an absolute abuser.

EasterIsland · 13/12/2022 14:39

DH and I have a heated conversation, jealousy kicking in over my past and previous relationships (this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance).

After 14 years & marriage, that sort of jealousy is not "normal." It's controlling.

And the rest of your story shows just how controlling your husband is.

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 14:39

TiredButDancing · 13/12/2022 14:35

OP, please think carefully and be completely honest. In the last 14 years have you ever:

  • decided not to do something (eg meet up with friends, attend a work event etc) because your DH would be upset and insecure about it?
  • Avoided a person or a place because your DH would be upset and insecure?
  • Bitten your tongue when you were about to tell him something about your day - eg that you saw a particular person or heard an interesting piece of information - for fear that he would get the wrong idea?
  • Avoided challenging him on something you don't like because of the fall out when he responds?

Because everything you're saying suggests that he's been using his "insecurity" and "abandonment" issues as a way to control you for a very long time.

Yes. OP, please study this post and answer it honestly.

I have a feeling that you've been dancing to your husband's tune ever since you met him. I have a feeling that you've been perpetually walking on eggshells around him for so long that you don't even notice it any more.

Greybutterfly · 13/12/2022 14:39

This is not a happy marriage. You are being controlled and abused. You need to leave .. but you wont as he has done such a job on you that you actually think you are in the wrong. Please seek urgent counselling at the very least

purplethings · 13/12/2022 14:40

He's being abusive and his reaction is so ridiculously inappropriate given the context that I'd put money on there being some kind of transference of blame going on here. It's possible he has been cheating on you.

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 14:41

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 14:39

Yes. OP, please study this post and answer it honestly.

I have a feeling that you've been dancing to your husband's tune ever since you met him. I have a feeling that you've been perpetually walking on eggshells around him for so long that you don't even notice it any more.

  1. yes
  2. yes
  3. not the day but say a particular topic
  4. I don' think so
OP posts:
Mellymoon · 13/12/2022 14:41

Ridiculous if he lets this trivial thing ruin it all. Don’t blame yourself for this stupid reaction of his. Carry on as normal and ignore the tantrum.

Wishimaywishimight · 13/12/2022 14:43

Your DH is far from "incredible" and "amazing". He is dredging up the most insignificant non-events from 14 years ago and you are making yourself ill over it? I absolutely do not believe he is wonderful in every other respect, he is controlling and jealous and, quite frankly, bonkers if this is all he has to worry about.

He has seriously done a number on you if you truly believe he is a great guy and that you have done something terrible here.

I hope perhaps these events help you take the blinkers off and see him as he truly is.

ItsaMetalBand · 13/12/2022 14:44

I get it from his point of view because he has been cheated on in past relationships and his dad abandoned him as a child so of course he's going to have issues with insecurity and abandonment, that's not his fault.

But it's not your fault either.

Why are you carrying all the blame for something that happened him before you even met him?

billy1966 · 13/12/2022 14:44

Ban · 13/12/2022 14:33

Sadly this :(

Blimey darling, you really can't see how abusive he is?

What an utter shit show.

He's a manipulative controlling abusive freak.

And you have children in the middle of this?

What a deeply unhealthy toxic environment.

Poor children.

Totally toxic and abnormal.

Poor children.

beastlyslumber · 13/12/2022 14:44

OP you say you don't fear challenging your husband (although your YES answers show that he controls you in other ways) so you need to challenge him on this. Tell him he's being ridiculous and needs to get over it, that you don't want to hear another word about this irrelevant nonsense, and if he can't get past it he needs to seek psychiatric help because it's not fair on you to have to deal with his feelings.

ArabellaScott · 13/12/2022 14:45

OP, I'm sorry, this doesn't sound like a healthy relationship at all.

Your DH is controlling.

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/coercive-control/

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 14:45

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 14:41

  1. yes
  2. yes
  3. not the day but say a particular topic
  4. I don' think so

Oh dear. So there are definitely subjects which you lie about because he would get upset.

Do you see that this is abuse? Why do you feel the need to lie about such things? What would he do if you told him the truth (about avoiding a person or doing something he would disapprove of)?

Has he ever been aggressive with you? Physically?

GoldenCupidon · 13/12/2022 14:45

it's genuinely blown out of proportion in his mind into something horrific and to him it does come with the feelings of hurt and betrayal so in that sense he does think I'm in the wrong because I'm the one responsible for causing him those feelings

Let me paraphrase that: "He has made this into a huge deal in his mind i.e. unreasonably upset himself, and he blames me for it because I'm around and it suits him to do so."

He has done this TO HIMSELF. Who the heck can remember what they put in an email? I have probably told dozens of similar (non) "lies" over the years. Clearly you meant to say you were with your now H and you loved him, even if it wasn't in that email you may have said it earlier/elsewhere. The evidence is that you have been together for 14 years!!!!

Honestly jealousy is the very devil, I had one of these once. He claimed I had lied to him and our relationship would never be the same/how could he trust me. What had happened was he "became aware" I had previously briefly dated our workmate, years earlier. I had thought he knew for two very good reasons - 1. everyone knew at our small workplace 2. my friend had told him. Turns out he either didn't know or had forgotten and even though we no longer worked anywhere near this guy etc apparently it tainted me forever in his eyes. Wish I had dumped him at the very moment he started to get himself into a babyish tantrum over this, and I certainly feel very sorry for his partner now as it's a habit that's hard to break. Some people feel entitled to be jealous. The fact is, it's a crap emotion where it's unfounded/over nothing - like anger is - and like anger, it's the responsibility of the person feeling that feeling to sort themselves out. Not make it everyone else's problem.

Honestly just tell him the bare facts that what happened in your romantic life before he met you is irrelevant, and if he keeps harping on about ancient history in a pre-him era YOU WILL LEAVE HIM.

Unikeko · 13/12/2022 14:45

FFS you deserve better than this!

Seeingadistance · 13/12/2022 14:46

Bloody hell, OP!

The red flags have been waving for 14 years! And you just don't see them. This is crazy!

LTB!

DutchessOfMuck · 13/12/2022 14:46

I read you whole thread op and I feel so sorry for you. Your husband is a complete nut case. Controlling, manipulative abusive behaviour from him. Please seek help and leave him.

SpeckledlyHen · 13/12/2022 14:46

Everyone else has been so lovely and eloquent, sadly all I can add is that he sounds like an absolute controlling twat. I would be running for the hills.

TheEvening · 13/12/2022 14:46

He's a complete fucking NUTCASE! Jeezo!

Mariposista · 13/12/2022 14:47

OP I was expecting to read about some steamy affair, hidden child or criminal past! You DH is really childish holding this trivia over you. You barely knew him at the time the 'crime' (if you can even call it that) was committed and you have been a good partner since. What a twat.

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 14:47

Tell us more about people or places you avoid because your husband would be upset, OP. How do you know he'd be upset? How does this manifest itself?

billy1966 · 13/12/2022 14:48

Have you children?

Have I read that correctly?

If you haven't children, get some therapy and get the hell away from him.

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