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Think I've destroyed my marriage and family because of a lie I told 14 years ago! HELP!!

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ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 13:34

This is a long one so apologies in advance!! My DH and I have been together for 14 happy years, the last 7 of those married. He’s the most incredible and amazing person I’ve ever met and we have had the best fun and loving relationship I could have wished for plus now our amazing little family on top of all that. But, I think something I did 14 years ago may have just completely destroyed it all…..

3 months into our relationship (almost 14 years ago) I received an email from my ex containing friendly chat and asking me to design him a tattoo. I replied with equally friendly chat and said I’d design the tattoo. My memory is failing me with some of the details surrounding the event as it’s so long ago but my DH (bf at the time) was massively unimpressed when he found out I’d emailed him back – I said I’d replied with friendly chat and told my DH that moving forward I wouldn’t design the tattoo and wouldn’t reply to my ex again, and I stuck to my word. However, and this is the hazy area but a key point, I did tell my DH that I’d mentioned him to my ex in the email and said how amazing he was. DH seemed okay. Case dropped. We moved on continuing to be loved up and happy.

Fast forward 14 years…..still loved up and happy but….DH and I have a heated conversation, jealousy kicking in over my past and previous relationships (this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance). Said email mentioned above comes into the conversation and he’s saying how can I believe you, how do I know you didn’t reply again blah blah blah. I said I’ll see if I can find the email and show it to you because I wanted to prove to him and make him feel better. Well what a can of worms that has opened up…….we found the email trail containing the friendly chat and showing no further follow-up, but no mention of me telling my ex about my DH, in fact no mention of him at all. My DH has absolutely flipped saying that I’ve lied to him and betrayed him and been completely dishonest which I think he’s within his rights to say and that I chose my ex over him as should never have emailed in the first place. But he’s also saying that I must have still had feelings for my ex, must have wanted to re-kindle something with him, the content was far too personal and friendly. He simply will not believe that this wasn’t the case however much I try to reassure him. And let me tell you, that absolutely was not the case – my ex was controlling to the extreme and made life hellish the majority of the time however the breakup, when I finally plucked up courage to leave him, was amicable and we did exchange sporadic messages as friends on and off in the following months. My DH is interpreting it completely wrong and the daft thing is that I feel like I only replied to my ex in the first place because of my own insecurities/jealousy over my DH’s past. It just all feels like such a mess over something that isn’t significant at all in my mind (although obviously the consequences are) but is HUGE in my DH’s mind and nothing I seem to say or do is fixing it. I have honestly believed for the last 14 years (as has he) that I said that in the email but it’s clearly not there in writing – I either bare face lied or it’s in some other correspondence that I have zero trace of…?! And the thing is, I don’t know which is true and will never know now!!!

Now is also probably a good point to mentioned the other issue I’ve caused, and there is a link – that I lied to my DH when we first got together – I was intimidated by his past and felt threatened by it which led to feeling insecure and jealous. So for some ridiculous reason I bigged up my past sex life up to something fairly extreme, stupid I know, but that’s all come back to bite recently too. I have now been completely honest with him about that and explained why I felt the need to glorify things but again, and again unsurprisingly, he doesn’t believe me and can’t take my word as the truth. Understandably he’s saying I’ve lied to him over the last 14 years and what else is a lie, how can he trust me etc. etc. The problem with telling him the “honest” bit here is that the past basically boils down to sex with the ex in the email above so DH is thinking I had some amazing sex life with my ex that I was trying to rekindle in the email. Aaaarghhh!!!!

I feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I’ve done this, I can’t sleep and it’s making me feel ill. How can I ever put this right if my DH won’t believe me when I explain my feelings for him and how amazing he is and how happy and in love I am with him. I don’t want this to destroy my marriage and my family who are all perfect in every way!! What have I done!!!

OP posts:
GoldenCupidon · 13/12/2022 17:07

I think to find your post you go to the dropdown on "Talk" and scroll down to "Saved", but I haven't tried it myself.

"I just honestly can't believe it, can't get my head around why you would do this to me to us." - be honest with yourself, if you heard one of your friends saying this to his wife you'd think AT LEAST she had shagged his brother on the coffee table, wouldn't you? At worst that she'd shagged all three of his brothers and his grandad on a bouncy castle in front of an aghast public before going on a killing spree. At no point would you think, oh probably not quite sure about the contents of an email that practically predates the invention of the iphone.

You probably feel bad because his madness over the years has meant you felt forced to insist on exactly what was in this email etc, so you have "lied". But in reality a) it doesn't matter b) it's because you've felt a desperate need to calm him down!

LizzieSiddal · 13/12/2022 17:09

That’s good that you’ve asked to speak tonight. He needs to understand that HE is in the wrong here and should be going for counselling to sort his ridiculously controlling behaviour.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 17:09

I guess I'm still waiting for a reply from someone who sees it from his perspective rather than mine

Why? why do you want people to tell you that this man is absolutely right to be a jealous, abusive, gaslighting violent shit rather than tell you to run like the wind?

diamondpony80 · 13/12/2022 17:09

Why are you ashamed and embarrassed? You’ve done nothing wrong. And no, it’s not normal to be jealous over an ex that was 14+ years ago and an innocent email. Your DH sounds like an abusive, manipulative prick.

ArabellaScott · 13/12/2022 17:10

www.choosingtherapy.com/narcissistic-abuse/

SinnerBoy · 13/12/2022 17:11

ThisIsNotThePostYourLookingFor · Today 16:15

Someone who flips so much over things like this have normally done things themselves.

That thought passed through my mind, too. Often people will accuse others of something they have done themselves. They think that everyone has their low moral standards.

HotChoxs · 13/12/2022 17:12

As soon as I got to the bit about him telling you not to email your ex 3 months into dating I knew this would be something about DH being controlling

Veryxonfused · 13/12/2022 17:12

“(this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance)”

no that’s not normal

Dreamsoffreedomjoyandpeace · 13/12/2022 17:13

Did you see Maid on Netflix? The man in that was also only abusive to the walls and the series was about domestic violence.

FurAndFeathers · 13/12/2022 17:13

@ithinkiveruinedmymarriage

why is it your job to manage your husband’s batshit emotions/jealousy because a few bad things happened in his past?

as a mature adult surely it’s HIS responsibility to manage his irrational jealousy/anxiety/whatever and proactively seek therapy.
rather than control and micromanage you for 14 years in order to give himself a sense of importance?

he’s an emotionally abusive dickhead
stop entertaining his tantrums and tell him to take some responsibility/seek help.
he’s being ridiculous

aintnothinbutagstring · 13/12/2022 17:13

I couldn't stand to be with someone that jealous - how can you be attracted to him? Sounds weak and whingy. I literally would not have the patience to justify my actions from 14 YEARS AGO 😫

Whydoicare88 · 13/12/2022 17:13

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 17:09

I guess I'm still waiting for a reply from someone who sees it from his perspective rather than mine

Why? why do you want people to tell you that this man is absolutely right to be a jealous, abusive, gaslighting violent shit rather than tell you to run like the wind?

She wants someone to validate her decision to stay with him, because facing up to the truth and leaving is too hard.

I hope you do get your head around this quickly OP and leave him. You and your children deserve so much better.

daisy46 · 13/12/2022 17:13

Your DH is insane. I can't believe you're taking all the responsibility for his anger and saying things like "he's understandably upset." No, nothing about his reaction is understandable and he's conned you into thinking you're the problem.

LifeExperience · 13/12/2022 17:14

He continues to torture you and make you feel bad for something that happened FOURTEEN YEARS AGO! That's pathological. A man who truly loved you would never hurt you that way. He has a deep-seated need to control you, and over the years he's gaslighted you and made you feel that one mistake many years ago gives him permission to denigrate and torment you for the rest of your life. That's deranged.
He has severe mental health issues that need to be addressed by a very good therapist. If he won't do that, immediately, you must get away from him for the sake of the children.

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 17:14

OP - Could this nonsensical argument have been started and stoked by your husband to punish you for some perceived transgression?

Or is this just more of the same old, same old....................?

pinkyredrose · 13/12/2022 17:18

He’s the most incredible and amazing person I’ve ever met and we have had the best fun and loving relationship I could have wished for

Failing to see what's amazing about this immature, jealous idiot.

Littlewhitecat · 13/12/2022 17:19

Classic coercive control to tell you that he has trust issues and therefore you have to modify your behaviour or you'll set him off. I bet whatever you do isn't right, even if previously it has been. He's not a catch and you need to stop thinking you should be protecting other people's view of him. Jealously is not a normal part of a long term relationship.

Catdaft · 13/12/2022 17:21

He's an arsehole. Leaving would be best

Jenni92 · 13/12/2022 17:23

To all those saying your DH is 'crazy' and 'controlling' I vehemently disagree. A lie is a lie. Big or small. No one wants to think that our partner was still entertaining their ex, it can also stir feelings of betrayal to know he wasn't discussed and you lied. He has every right to feel the way he does. You could sit with him and start of by saying... 'You have every right to feel the way you do about the lie I told you in the beginning of the relationship about... going forward I want to know what I can do to regain your trust and show you that I am not consistently lying or betraying you' Start there and see where you two can go.

I wish you and your family all the best :)

HotChoxs · 13/12/2022 17:24

Catdaft · 13/12/2022 17:21

He's an arsehole. Leaving would be best

No, tell him to get therapy for his issues. He's controlling and has trust issues

If he doesn't do that then leave.

SafferUpNorth · 13/12/2022 17:24

The issues seem to be purely linked to me and/or my past. He genuinely believes I've done something heinous with that email (and "lie") so it's hard for me not to question whether I am actually in the wrong or not if that makes sense.

OP FFS....everyone has a past. In any healthy marriage, such a trivial matter that happened early in the relationship would be water under the bridge and not worth a second thought.

I'll say it again: his issues of jealousy and insecurity are HIS PROBLEMS TO SOLVE, not yours. He needs to get them and get help, rather than beat you over the head with them. He needs counselling, or you can go for couples counselling. When having a chat with him this evening, insist on that. Or you'll be his whipping boy forever.

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 17:24

Jenni92 · 13/12/2022 17:23

To all those saying your DH is 'crazy' and 'controlling' I vehemently disagree. A lie is a lie. Big or small. No one wants to think that our partner was still entertaining their ex, it can also stir feelings of betrayal to know he wasn't discussed and you lied. He has every right to feel the way he does. You could sit with him and start of by saying... 'You have every right to feel the way you do about the lie I told you in the beginning of the relationship about... going forward I want to know what I can do to regain your trust and show you that I am not consistently lying or betraying you' Start there and see where you two can go.

I wish you and your family all the best :)

This is ridiculous nonsense.

Wibbly1008 · 13/12/2022 17:24

You are being gaslighted. Dh needs help, lots of counselling and therapy

speakout · 13/12/2022 17:25

You found emails from 14 years ago???

beastlyslumber · 13/12/2022 17:25

Jenni92 · 13/12/2022 17:23

To all those saying your DH is 'crazy' and 'controlling' I vehemently disagree. A lie is a lie. Big or small. No one wants to think that our partner was still entertaining their ex, it can also stir feelings of betrayal to know he wasn't discussed and you lied. He has every right to feel the way he does. You could sit with him and start of by saying... 'You have every right to feel the way you do about the lie I told you in the beginning of the relationship about... going forward I want to know what I can do to regain your trust and show you that I am not consistently lying or betraying you' Start there and see where you two can go.

I wish you and your family all the best :)

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