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Is this relationship salvageable? Dogs are making me so cross!

103 replies

Muniononion · 19/11/2022 16:45

I love my girlfriend very much, she brings joy, fun, excitement and happiness to mine and my children’s lives. She is a real free spirit whereas I’m more homely and stable. This has some challenges but overall we communicate well. We’ve been together 2.5 yrs, living together for last six months in a flat I was in before we met.

She has had two dogs since I met her. They’re cute and great with children. I like/liked them but now I’m struggling with them so much, I literally want them gone but I’ll lose her too.

The dogs are very badly behaved, jump up on us when we walk in a room, follow us everywhere even to the toilet, bark constantly (when my girlfriend hugs me they get angry), huff at us when we don’t give them food off our plates, sit there begging, bark loudly at everyone who comes to the door or even walks past, scream barking at other dogs when out and pull at the lead, don’t walk in a straight line etc. I could go on.

What’s far worse though is the lack of hygiene.
They eat my children’s sweets/chocolates and then vomit all over the house (I’ve been blamed for leaving the food out?!) I should clean the sick up and not mention it apparently. They piss all over my youngest’s bedroom, on his bed. They shit sometimes in the bathrooms. The small boy dog came back from a walk and wiped his arse on my pillows. I watched dumbfounded then changed the sheets, on a boil wash. Their hair gets everywhere, in our food and all over bedsheets. I don’t want them on them bed, and still they go on when I’m not there.

My girlfriend says this is part and parcel of living with dogs, and I should just get on with it as she cleans up after my kids. In fact I should stop mentioning it and quietly clean up, even me checking for a dogshit can cause a row. My kids can be badly behaved but in general are very good. They make a mess, but not unhygienic and I fully expect that I’m the person who tidies up after them, including me cleaning their toilet up. She occasionally cleans their toilet or does the washing up and throws this at me as ammunition when we argue about the dogs. The hair is enough to need hoovering every day, she has done it twice since moving in?

Yesterday the dog urinated in my son’s bedroom again, this was my fault as I was wfh and should have taken him out. I don’t want this responsibility. She said today she would leave them in the flat again all day as she’s working but I’m going out. I said she needs a plan as can’t keep leaving them alone all day. When I got back from my day I had to take them out, I don’t want this additional chore.

I really just want her to take total responsibility for the dogs. She wants to be able to leave them in the flat on their own and I take them out when I get back. I don’t know am I being unfair? She feels I’m making her uncomfortable. I’m so cross I can’t think straight. I don’t know if our relationship can survive this feels so fundamental.

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Muniononion · 19/11/2022 16:46

wow that was long. Sorry, I think TLDR is that my gf dogs are quite dirty and it’s not so much their mess and behaviour but her response to it that’s driving me mad.

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wizzywig · 19/11/2022 16:46

That's really disgusting. I'd imagine she would be similar if she ever had kids

MadMadMadamMim · 19/11/2022 16:47

Tell her she needs to go. Just take her dogs and go. It's disgusting and she's taking the piss.

You and your children will be much happier.

Damnautocorrect · 19/11/2022 16:49

i agree the sweets and chocolate are your fault for leaving it out.

the rest is bad training and should be occasional accidents if ill.

you sound incompatible. Dogs do come as part of a package like children and shared views on parenting are much the same if it’s dog or child.

Stokey · 19/11/2022 16:50

Dogs that aren't house trained is not ok unless they're puppies?

Can't see how this is going to resolve itself.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 19/11/2022 16:50

To me, it would be a no brainer. The only way the relationship would survive would be living separately.

TrentCrimm · 19/11/2022 16:50

My girlfriend says this is part and parcel of living with dogs

Absolutely not. Your problem is you have a girlfriend with very poor standards if she thinks any of that is acceptable.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 19/11/2022 16:53

Without eirher of you (or the dogs) I'm afraid I think that a fundamentally different attitude towards pets would eventually make you incompatible as a couple.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 19/11/2022 16:53

Dogs are animals and totally unclean if badly trained and not looked after properly. I couldn’t live like this and neither should you or your kids. She sounds like a nightmare, don’ have kids with her. Tell her to get rid of the dogs or leave.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 19/11/2022 16:53

Part and parcel of living with someone is making compromises, finding solutions together.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 19/11/2022 16:54

Without judging either of you...

MultiTulip · 19/11/2022 16:54

How old are the dogs and what breed? Given how badly trained they are, I’m going to guess they’re something in bred and hard to train, like a Frenchie. They don’t live very long, so this may be a short term issue. Particularly as she’s letting them get to chocolate and then not taking them to the vet. I absolutely couldn’t live with untrained dogs like this. It’s not a suitable environment for kids either. She has to train them and take responsibility or move out.

Mabelface · 19/11/2022 16:55

Chuck her and her dogs out. She's a lazy, selfish nightmare.

DaphneSprucesPippasClack · 19/11/2022 16:55

I love animals but couldn't live with this. They need training and boundaries and your gf isn't being a good dog owner AT ALL.

Motherofalittledragon · 19/11/2022 16:56

Tell her that she and the dogs need to go, peeing on the beds is unacceptable and completely disgusting.

category12 · 19/11/2022 16:57

Thing is, if you're going to live together, you need to be on the same page and willing to to help each other out.

So yeah, I'd expect a partner to take out the dogs for a walk or let them out if I was out even if they were my dogs, or to keep an eye on the kids etc even if they were his kids. Cos you're a team.

I can understand why you wouldn't want much to do with the dogs, considering they are an untrained nightmare, but if you don't want to muck in with pets or she with your children, you shouldn't be combining households.

Deathraystare · 19/11/2022 16:58

My girlfriend says this is part and parcel of living with dogs,

Yes if they have had no training. Not acceptable to piss everywhere and should not eat chocolate. Should not get jealous of you both.

Soothsayer1 · 19/11/2022 16:58

Her dogs have been given the position of highest status beings in the household, she values them above all else.

Therealjudgejudy · 19/11/2022 16:59

Yuck. That is absolutely disgusting and I can't believe you have let this carry on around your kids for so long.

Get some boundaries and kick her out . So gross

Bookaholic73 · 19/11/2022 17:00

I have dogs, and love them almost more than my husband…but this is disgusting! I would get rid of her and them, and live in a clean house!

Muniononion · 19/11/2022 17:00

Wow. Thank you. I am so heartbroken. I don’t think she’s lazy at all, or selfish. I don’t think she has good boundaries and isn’t good at putting in expectations for others this is magnified as she calls these dogs her babies, they can do no wrong in her eyes. She has indulged them in every way, sleeps with them under her covers like co sleeping, it’s driven me to distraction. I put boundaries in with them and she cannot fulfil them. She has no idea how to parent (for reasons you can imagine).

I truly mean it when I say she is an amazing person, she is extremely kind and loving. She’s creative and has brought a huge amount of love and joy into my life. I am very sad as I don’t know how we get past this. I am so grateful to you though, I don’t think I’m being particularly difficult about hygiene now I’ve heard the views of others.

they’re Pomeranian dogs, so they are fluffy and possessive. Needy, walk all over you if you’re sat down and scratch away at your arm if you’re not stroking them.

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Muniononion · 19/11/2022 17:02

Soothsayer1 · 19/11/2022 16:58

Her dogs have been given the position of highest status beings in the household, she values them above all else.

I think it’s this, and it’s causing so much tension. I feel like a mug. Doormat. 😭

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hummerbird · 19/11/2022 17:02

She has very low standards of hygiene.
Very low standard of caring for Children, very low standard for caring for the dogs.
It would make me think about her general attitudes to other behaviour social responsibility, even honesty
If it's your flat chuck the lazy cow and her shittty-arsed dogs out.
Try and park your children somewhere with a relative while she goes if it's possible.

Muniononion · 19/11/2022 17:04

category12 · 19/11/2022 16:57

Thing is, if you're going to live together, you need to be on the same page and willing to to help each other out.

So yeah, I'd expect a partner to take out the dogs for a walk or let them out if I was out even if they were my dogs, or to keep an eye on the kids etc even if they were his kids. Cos you're a team.

I can understand why you wouldn't want much to do with the dogs, considering they are an untrained nightmare, but if you don't want to muck in with pets or she with your children, you shouldn't be combining households.

I agree I should have taken them out, absolutely, I would never want any animal to suffer. I had an accident at home yesterday and was preoccupied, but accept this has led to the urine incident. Today I’ve taken them out once when I returned. It makes me resentful though, particularly as there’s no negotiation, they’re just left in, and I have no say.

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ConnieTucker · 19/11/2022 17:05

Chocolate simply cannot be left out near dogs.

the dogs need proper training. Untrained dogs are dead dogs.

they also need a dog walker during the day when everyone is out.

she is an irresponsible dog owner.

but woth regards to hair everywhere? What bread are they? How often are they groomed? How often is the flag getting dusted / hoovered / mopped? I have animals. I dont have hair everywhere.

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