Straightforward, drama free abortion

[FineMom]

I know everyone’s different and possibly some women get upset by having an abortion. But my experience when I was in my early 20s was really fine. My partner was supportive. The whole thing was relatively free, it was also guilt free and stress free. I told my mother she was fine too and came to stay with me. There was no drama or doubt just a sense of relief that
I had access to this safe health care service.

I love the Archers and I know they need a story line but, AIBU to feel they have massively over milked this subject.
I remember when Lizzie Archer had one a few years ago and they treated the issue far more in line with my experience.

Exactly. How did 15 year old me not realise that the baby I was pregnant with after my brother raped me was actually a blessing. Ffs.

@AuntieDickhead 😞x

Sometimes advanced search explains a lot! Not talking about the OP

@Birdie002

You have by car been the most hateful person here. You called a poster a Parasite for having an abortion. You said that another poster was trying to ease her conscious because she didn't express guilt about having an abortion. You repeatedly called abortion barbaric, and deny it all you like the implication about those who have abortions or carry them out is there.

I sincerely hope you don't have any daughters if this is how you think of women.

I think you mean viable—23 weeks is considered the edge of viability. I’ve never heard of sentience being known at this point?

Again with the fixation on a heartbeat.
It’s actually not even a heartbeat since the heart hasn’t formed - it’s a structural shadow of the heartbeat in readiness, if you like. So weird how so much stock is placed by it.

@AuntieDickhead there aren't words.

Carrying a baby in your uterus is NATURAL and we are made to be able to hold that weight in our bodies.

Actually, in evolutionary terms women's bodies are compromise between walking upright, having a large brain and giving birth. Basically the evolutionary advantages of the first two are weighed by maternal death in the last. Natural selection worked to select just how many deaths in childbirth were 'worth' the advantage of being intelligent and walking upright. Turns out, a lot. Because nature is red in tooth and claw and doesn't care about feelings.

Facts don't matter though. It's all appeals to emotions and false information. I'd love to know what you want to achieve with that. Is it to ban abortion? Because results in many more deaths. Is it to shame women after abortion? Because that just makes you an arsehole. Is it to have women choose to carry unwanted pregnancies to term? Because that's unrealistic and also a terrible idea. Lots of unwanted babies being raised by unwilling, unhappy mothers. Welcome to abuse and neglect.

@Panpastels @MrsTerryPratchett thank you. And to anyone else who feels they need them.

It's very interesting how @Birdie002 disappeared as soon as I posted my history. Now maybe I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion, but that seems to happen a lot. Or maybe she's been banned.

Better to disappear than be a twat to you.

Let's hope.

Although I'm sensing a lack of shame.

@AuntieDickhead the forced birthers don't like being confronted with facts, or with the actual consequences of what they want to happen. Almost as if they find it difficult to face their own hatred of women.

Your story is powerful and I thank you for using it against the tide of anti abortion sentiment I'm currently seeing on MN.

I just wonder if the forced birthers ever read stories like mine and stop posting because it's made them think and they're not brave (not really the right word) enough to apologise and admit they are wrong.

I'll never stop sharing my truth, (unless MN make me, or it starts to affect my MH) because it's so important that the truth is told. If it helps one victim of abuse/ woman who had an abortion then its done its job.

If it makes one force birther reconsider their opinion, or even just learn to be considerate with their words, then it's done more than its job.

AuntieDickhead hopefully your brave post has made her just have a little think.

I'm so sorry @AuntieDickhead

Agree with everything you said, and so sorry you’ve been through that. You’re incredibly strong to be so open in your argument back to the misogynist.

I know what I saw with my own eyes at that exhibition.

Then you either misread the labels, or the exhibits were not to scale, or the exhibition got its facts massively wrong. It really is that simple. All you have to do is look up some basic human biology.

It does sound like you misread the labels as months instead of weeks because there is no medical way it was as you described. Unless it was in a medical marvel section... you maybe need to go and have a wee Google to see if you can identify what you actually saw before continuing to give people misinformation.

Then you misread the labels. Because you would have needed an actual microscope to see them at 3 weeks and 5 weeks. It's just not possible.

This is really sad these posts. Can’t believe the negativity on this page. People are sharing their stories and just have people go on negative really is upsetting.
thank you for telling your stories, @AuntieDickhead thank you for sharing your experience also and I’m so sorry that you’ve have someone be so negative and mean about it.
we should respect each other and their decisions, whether you agree or not.
life is too short to criticise others because you don’t believe what they have done is right.
sending love and good vibes to all xx

Why was this bumped? The kid will be an adult now.

What?

You need to learn a bit of basic human biology then @Jippers Just a quick google would do it.

As I remember it, von Hagen didn't make things up so I think you must have misremembered because the labelling was very accurate.

I know what I saw with my own eyes at that exhibition.

Then you weren't paying attention properly. I'm not surprised by that tbh

I know what I saw with my own eyes at that exhibition.

You must have mis-read. A 3 or 5 week embryo does not look anything like a baby. I know this because I have a scan photograph of an 8.5 week foetus pinned up. It is my ds. We thought I had miscarried and this was the scan to check the miscarriage was complete but there he was. In the photo he looks like a kidney bean shaped blob. Nothing like a baby. Even in my most emotional (it was a much wanted pregnancy that we thought we had lost) I said “it is the most beautiful blob I have ever seen”.

I’m not really sure what you are trying to do here - haranguing women who have already had an abortion to try and make them feel bad about it seems a bit pointless.

If you don’t like abortion there are far more effective ways you can get involved in this. For example you can lobby to improve contraception access. (I’m currently having a total nightmare getting a repeat prescription of the pill and I am in my early 40s with affluence, education, transport and family support behind me. It would be so much harder if I was 15 and didn’t want my mum to know.)

Another option is to fight against child poverty.

Or battle against child victims of domestic violence being forced to see the violent parent.

Abortion is a necessary tool in an imperfect world. The best way to reduce abortions is to make the world less imperfect.