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SAHM up shit creek

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WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:21

Long post. Trying to avoid drip feeding. Also please be kind and constructive. I'm reeling and feeling so messed up. I've never revealed any of this to anyone because of shame and fear.

I'm utterly screwed. Dh wants a divorce. He says because I show him no affection. I'm negative and critical.

Dh has had two emotional affairs over the years. I found out by snooping because he'd been acting vile. I was shaken and so upset by these but he wanted to try again. So I agreed.

He's also prone to hysterical screaming abuse perhaps two or three times per year. These can be triggered by random things for example, me asking him to drive slower or if I ask him to let the dog out for a wee at 7am.

Three weeks ago, he was mad keen to make things work between us. See attached. I had been very detached because he was yelling and calling me a stupid fucking cunt in the car in August. No sex. No hugs. No affection from me after that. I was shattered by it. I lost my dad last October and I think I'm menopausal to boot (I'm 49). So I'm feeling weird anyway.

Whilst these episodes are distressing, they don't happen very often. He apologises. He's on medication. He sees a psychiatrist twice a month to help him manage. He's keen to improve himself. Be a better person, he says.

He's generous to a fault. Is often really helpful around the house and with the dcs. It's just a three or four times a year, he goes mental with dramatic yelling.

He has just been on a business trip for four days - he normally wfh - and he's been ebullient upon his return. Says he wants a divorce. During the trip he called the dcs and me but he was very chilly to me. I think someone has caught his fancy or he fucked someone whilst away. The last three times he's said he wants a divorce in the past are when he's been away. I've said ok and then he changes his mind. Not this time though.

He wasn't wearing his wedding ring when I picked him up from the train station. He always wears it. I commented on that and he said, "That's the first thing you've got to say to me? I was in a hurry and chucked it in my toiletry bag." Smells like bullshit to me and he's been WhatsApping a lot too. He's gone away again now to see a friend for a week. That was planned for ages and I was fully supportive.

I do care a lot about him. He has a lot of good qualities. But so much damage has been done to our relationship over the years. I'm really sad. I don't want to let go because I will miss him terribly and we do have laughs. I will also be so jealous if he has a serious relationship with anyone else.

So anyway, I'm also shit shit scared. Three kids at private school - not in UK. Two at critical stages of A level and GCSE exams. I cannot risk disruption and upset for them this year.

I'm also totally shit scared because I've not worked for years and years. I've never adulted. My dh pays all the bills, deals with all financial stuff. I'm ashamed but that is the bald truth. How embarrassing.

I have zero zero confidence. I'm a graduate. Got an MSc in marketing albeit 22 years ago. I worked in creative agency in London for a few years, got married, had babies. Had PND. Was paralysed by PND actually for a good few years and never went back to work. I cannot think what I can do to support myself and the dcs.

So, whilst dh says he will split everything 50/50 - and says that I shouldn't try and get more because that will cost a huge amount in legal fees and why waste money on legal fees, he says - I don't believe the dcs and I will be ok financially. He will meet someone else very quickly and she and he will be very reluctant to be 50/50. I don't trust his words now, currently well meaning as they are.

What should I do? Agree to a divorce? Hope for the best in terms of his settlement? It won't be much anyway. We spend all our money on school fees. Am not in UK btw.

Please, anyone who has safe advice or has experienced this kind of thing and can give me any pointers, insights, boosts, I'd be grateful.

I don't want to burden or involve my friends because they are mostly his friends too and well, they don't deserve to hear all this awful stuff.

SAHM up shit creek
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Cakeandcoffee93 · 08/10/2022 20:22

His message gives me the ick. I couldn’t be with someone like that op

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:25

Just because of his message?

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Chamelotfolk · 08/10/2022 20:36

This is hard op. Whatever you do don't agree to anything with dh under any circumstances. Say that you consult solicitor. Whenever you feel ready consult one. Where abouts are you? I am asking as wondering if it changes anything legally. Take your time in talking any decision. It takes some time for your mind to settle after the initial shock. Xx

Chamelotfolk · 08/10/2022 20:37

This is hard op. Whatever you do don't agree to anything with dh under any circumstances. Say that you consult solicitor. Whenever you feel ready consult one. Where abouts are you? I am asking as wondering if it changes anything legally. Take your time in talking any decision. It takes some time for your mind to settle after the initial shock.

feckoffbrian · 08/10/2022 20:41

You need legal advice, and quick. Find a SHL.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that he's played away again.

ElephantLover · 08/10/2022 20:44

Which country are you in?

Pixiedust1234 · 08/10/2022 20:46

You need a solicitor to explain what you are financially entitled to. This all depends on length of marriage, children and their needs (and who looks after them). It depends on equity of house, savings, investment and pension.

You can't stop the divorce but dont agree to 50/50 split until you know that a judge would say its fair.

Dacadactyl · 08/10/2022 20:46

Sorry you are going through this OP. I dont really have any advice except dont agree to anything without legal advice and dont let him railroad you.

Bleurgh to his message too...sounds like some hippy dippy nonsense

reallyworriedjobhunter · 08/10/2022 20:50

Use this week while he is away to get your ducks in a row.

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:50

I have no ducks to get in a row.

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NameChangeLifeChange · 08/10/2022 20:51

I’m not really sure what to say OP. He sounds completely bonkers with the bi annual screaming and the repeated emotional affairs would have ended it long ago for me. Equally you’re in a very vulnerable position and all you can do is ask a lawyer. If you can’t afford 50/50 you’ll have to take the kids out of private school and scale back your life. That’s all you can do really.

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:52

I'm really shafted, aren't I?

I feel like in a few years I will be destitute.

We rent where we currently live.

We have three tiny btls in UK that don't even cover half the rent here. Think v expensive country.

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NameChangeLifeChange · 08/10/2022 20:53

Could you move back to the UK?

Rainbowqueeen · 08/10/2022 20:55

It’s hard to give advice without knowing what country you are in but it sounds to me like you would be entitled to far more than 50 percent and that your H knows this. More importantly he also knows that you and the kids would not be ok financially but he does not care. What a charmer.

Seek legal advice. Is there an organisation similar to womens aid?? Find out and speak to them.

Open your own bank account. Your local library is likely to run courses or know somewhere that runs courses for people who need assistance in your circumstances.

Don’t accept his 50-50 offer. Educate yourself about what you are entitled to Good luck.

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:55

I really don't want to move back to the UK.

I want to get citizenship for me and my dcs to ensure they have every opportunity and freedom. Two more years and I can apply......dh says he wouldn't jeopardise that.

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NameChangeLifeChange · 08/10/2022 20:57

That’s fair enough but sometimes it’s needs must. It doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship at all in the first place. would be you be able to get a job, even if low paid, if you split up?

hadtochangetothisone · 08/10/2022 20:59

No one can give you proper advice without knowing which country you are in !

Saudi Arabia .. ? Get the hell out under any circs...
France ... Go through the court process...

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:59

Well, I don't know. I'm resident here but not an EU citizen. I'm happy to work. It would be very low paid.

I'm starting to hate him.

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WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 20:59

Lux.

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Sunshinegirl82 · 08/10/2022 20:59

Very much depends where you are OP. It will be very different if you are in Europe as opposed to the Middle East.

Is there much equity in the BTL's? Does he have a decent pension? Much in the way of other assets? Do you have family in the U.K.? Would you want to remain in your current country if you divorced?

hadtochangetothisone · 08/10/2022 21:00

Luxembourg ?

Go through the court process !!

RoseslnTheHospital · 08/10/2022 21:00

You do have ducks to get in a row. There's financial information about your joint assets that you should gather if you haven't already. As Pp has said, open your own bank account if you don't have your own separate one. Find out if there are any advice organisations in your country for women who want to get divorced. Make sure you've got your personal documents to hand, and the kids too.

Keep posting here too, for support and advice.

From what you've described your husband sounds like hard work. He sounds emotionally manipulative and the threat of random outbursts would be too much for me.

Lavendersummer · 08/10/2022 21:00

Marriage therapy. Find a good therapist. Go together. If he won’t go then go alone. Living abroad and being a SAHM is totally different from the Uk. Expat marriages are hard.
so marriage therapy should be your first step.

Sunshinegirl82 · 08/10/2022 21:02

Do you speak the language? You need legal advice to see how this would usually be approached under the laws there.

WhatAPatheticSpecimen · 08/10/2022 21:02

Should I try and keep things going ?

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