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Husband following women on Facebook

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Notbeinfunnehbut · 03/10/2022 12:30

We had a conversation about instagram models earlier on this year
out of curiosity I typed into Facebook his name and clicked on photos to see what he was looking at based on something I read on here
low and behold amongst normal stuff , loads of onlyfans style pictures of women
they aren’t friends it’s more pages I think but following
the likes and images don’t pop up on my newsfeed I really hope they don’t pop up on other peoples 😞

I can’t really bring it up right now, but a lot of the likes are recent id have to bring it up at the right time , I’m just trying to unpack this
in his mind I don’t think he gets it
sorry to offload

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WahineToa · 07/10/2022 13:41

In a sworn statement to the SEC, which regulates securities markets and protects investors, the individual said there was no solution to illegal material at Facebook because there had not been "adequate assets devoted to the problem".
They claim that a small team set up to develop software which could detect indecent videos of children was broken up and redeployed, because it was seen as "too complex".
Facebook says it uses technology known as PhotoDNA and VideoDNA, which automatically scan for known child abuse images - each image recovered by law enforcement worldwide and referred to the American National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, is given a unique identifying code.
Other accusations from the whistleblower include:
Facebook doesn't know the full scale of the problem of child abuse material because it "doesn't track it"
A constant question allegedly asked by senior managers was "what's the return on investment?"
The whistleblower told the SEC that this was a legitimate business question, "but not when it comes to public safety issues as critical as child sex abuse".
In the five-page legal document there was also a warning about Facebook "Groups", which were described as "facilitating harm".
The groups, many of which are only visible to members, is where "a lot of terrifying and abhorrent behaviours occur".
Paedophiles "use code words to describe the type of child, the type of sexual activity...they use Facebook's encrypted Messenger service or Whatsapp to share these codes, which change routinely.
"Facebook's system depends on a self-policing model that can't rationally or reasonably be enforced".

www.bbc.com/news/technology-59063768.amp

So what’s your point? Because pedophiles that get off on child rape images and videos exist and FB can’t 100% eradicate them (no one can btw), then no man in a committed relationship should be allowed to follow adult women on FB ever?

That’s rather batshit. I mean if my partner came to me and said I absolutely must never ever follow or like any tweets by a man ever because it’s sleazy and disrespectful and these men might get ideas and then I’ll get death threats and rape threats. And then send me an article about how these threats happen on Twitter by the thousands every day and a court case is being filed for them “letting” such criminal behaviour go on. All to try and prove how I must respect his wishes, I’d laugh in his face.

Notbeinfunnehbut · 07/10/2022 13:53

Wow this has erm, escalated 😒

im going to step back now

thanks for all helpful replies

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The OP is talking about FB. That makes your comments derails.

WahineToa · 07/10/2022 14:15

follow adult women

Notbeinfunnehbut · 07/10/2022 14:15

Yes all very much adult women

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CookPassBabtridge · 07/10/2022 22:17

Yeah how on earth did this get on to paedophiles, rape etc..

Notbeinfunnehbut · 07/10/2022 22:56

I’ve no idea myself

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Discovereads · 08/10/2022 12:39

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@Bluequilt What you said did suggest looking at sexual images of animals and children:
You don’t care if he looks at beastiality ? Minors? that’s scary

Notbeinfunnehbut · 08/10/2022 13:42

I think beastiality and minors are quite an escalation from my original post

it’s sad people can’t make their own threads for these discussions

like I said thanks for all the helpful posts left

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WahineToa · 08/10/2022 14:00

it’s sad people can’t make their own threads for these discussions

often posts will raise other related or extended points though, as yours did. If these are women that your husband knows it’s different, but if not then actually some of the points we raised are directly relevant to you. People don’t seem to understand that online photos and videos aren’t necessarily put there by the women or girls themselves or with their knowledge, and that the age can’t be verified. Yes, including Facebook. If your husband is spending time admiring photos of women he doesn’t know, it isn’t actually the leap you think it is to say he may be looking at videos/porn etc that then involves the more serious issues raised. They were raised by others saying they don’t care what their partners looked at, which some of us think is naive and concerning. You clearly do care and that’s all that’s relevant in your relationship and this post, your feelings of discomfort and being able to tell your partner that openly.

I know it’s frustrating if your thread is derailed, but I don’t think it was a massive leap or derail at all.

WahineToa · 08/10/2022 14:03

Actually you said:
loads of onlyfans style pictures of women they aren’t friends it’s more pages

so our points are entirely relevant. Also you mentioned you watch porn so the issues raised about that are entirely relevant too, you raised porn. Not us. At least think about our points on that and the dangers. I hope it isn’t porn hub you use.

Discovereads · 08/10/2022 15:03

Notbeinfunnehbut · 08/10/2022 13:42

I think beastiality and minors are quite an escalation from my original post

it’s sad people can’t make their own threads for these discussions

like I said thanks for all the helpful posts left

100% Agree. I was like 🤯 when I saw it.

Fairislefandango · 08/10/2022 15:18

Tbh I'd be bothered by this more because of the kind of person it shows he is, rather than it being a public lack of respect for his wife/gf. I just wouldn't want to be with the kind of man who leers over Only Fans type pictures on his social media accounts. It's just so sleazy and scummy that it would instantly kill any respect or attraction I had for him.

Notbeinfunnehbut · 08/10/2022 16:57

Fairislefandango · 08/10/2022 15:18

Tbh I'd be bothered by this more because of the kind of person it shows he is, rather than it being a public lack of respect for his wife/gf. I just wouldn't want to be with the kind of man who leers over Only Fans type pictures on his social media accounts. It's just so sleazy and scummy that it would instantly kill any respect or attraction I had for him.

I completely agree

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EarthSight · 08/10/2022 22:56

It's the fact that it's on social media that's really bad. This isn't like looking at women in magazines - he can actually communicate with these women and that's part of the appeal. They are reachable. I bet some of these men are liking these pictures in the hope that one of the women might, just might, click on his profile back and think 'Ooooo....what an interesting guy' and strike up a conversation.

If someone has thousands of followers it's unlikely to get noticed, but I think men do this as the digital equivalent of waving at a woman hoping she'll wave back. It's disrespectful.

Tsort · 08/10/2022 23:01

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Look up ‘reductio ad absurdum’.

You brought up bestiality, question mark or no. You introduced ridiculous hyperbole into the conversation. It is impossible to have any sort of intelligent conversation with a person that does that.

Your response to me was akin to going up to a person who says ‘I’ll eat anything’ and going ‘you’ll eat anything?! You sure? You’ll eat shit, then? That’s gross!’

It was bizarre, childish and unnecessary. Multiple people have told you this, but you can continue telling yourself that you’re being wilfully misunderstood by all of us as you fight the good fight.

Bluequilt · 08/10/2022 23:11

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Tsort · 08/10/2022 23:28

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And bestiality? Were you also ‘simply asking’ how my partner manages to avoid the omnipresent bestiality on social media, as well? Or do you admit that it was a truly bizarre thing to introduce into the conversation?

If you introduce bizarre irrelevant and offensive hyperbole into a conversation, people will stop talking to you.

Bluequilt · 08/10/2022 23:36

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Tsort · 08/10/2022 23:46

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Nobody was ‘running around’ telling anyone that everything online was okay. Again, hyperbole. You seem incapable of having a rational adult conversation.

Me: I don’t care what he looks at.

You: You don’t care if he looks at beastiality ? Minors? that’s scary

Me: Your response to me was akin to going up to a person who says ‘I’ll eat anything’ and going ‘you’ll eat anything?! You sure? You’ll eat shit, then? That’s gross!’

You didn’t need to illustrate I wouldn’t be okay with bestiality, as no rational person would have that interpretation of what was said. The same way ‘I eat anything’ clearly doesn’t mean the person in question gorges themselves on faeces.

I’ll repeat what I said previously:

You introduced ridiculous hyperbole into the conversation. It is impossible to have any sort of intelligent conversation with a person that does that.

It was bizarre, childish and unnecessary. Multiple people have told you this, but you can continue telling yourself that you’re being wilfully misunderstood by all of us as you fight the good fight.

Discovereads · 08/10/2022 23:49

@Bluequilt
I don’t think you know what a ? means if you think it means ignore the word that comes before as I’m not really writing it.

Your whole premise was a snarky derail. You know @Tsort wasnt saying “anything” to include things that are illegal and immoral.

And most of your posts are a lecture on online safety suited to an 11yo not an adult who we can safely assume not only knows how to avoid sexual images of animals and children but isn’t fucking looking for any either.

And the whole “how does your partner know the age of…” well that would be the same fucking way I and all women also know. That’s how. He’s an adult. I’m an adult. I don’t need to monitor or restrict a fellow grown adults online activity on some ridiculous excuse that he might “accidentally” pull up photos of something sick and illegal that only I, being a woman, could spot and prevent. It’s ridiculous.

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