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Found out I was the other woman, bf has been married for 8 years, do I tell his wife?

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:00

Name change for this one. Apologies in advance for the long story

I met a man on online dating in 2021. I’m 29 and he is 37. His profile said he was looking for something long term (as was I). We had very (almost scaringly similar) interests and hit it off right away. Before we met, he told me he was divorced. He said his divorce was finalised in 2020 after being initiated following separation in late 2019. He said he’d been married for 5 years and was in a relationship for 13 years with her altogether. He said they “settled” for each other and there was no love, or spark, they had incompatible personalities and no shared interests. He also told me that they wanted kids but that she had fertility problems and although they agreed not to have children, he always struggled with this decision. He told me he initiated the break up but that they both mutually agreed it was for the best.

We went on our first date in September 2021. We hit it off. For the first few months, we would go on about one date per week (sometimes less), always for a walk or cuppa or lunch. It was slower than the pace I was used to, but I was also relieved that he wasn’t just after sex. I started pushing for us to have a weekend night out date too, but he was a doctor (true) and would always use work as an excuse to let me down last minute.

Things finally ramped up in November time and he stayed at mine once or twice. We also had a weekend away together. Just before the New Year, I went abroad for a few weeks on a work trip which was not ideal, because then in February he went on a 10 day trip abroad by himself (although I obviously now doubt this was the case). Throughout this time, however he would text me constantly, to the point where it was beginning to negatively impact my life and I had to say we needed to cut it down. He would send me extravagant gifts to my house, would brag about money, told me he loved me and that we were soul mates and that he’d never had a connection like it in his life.

When he returned, we were supposed to go to dinner one night and then stay at his house, but he cancelled on me due to work. I went into the city anyway and was surprised to see his car in the car park and not at work. I kept this to myself and instead did some research online which resulted in me finding his Facebook. He told me he didn’t have Facebook. He was hard to find as he had purposely spelt his first name backwards.

When I challenged him, he reacted very negatively, calling me a stalker and the mask truly slipped and I saw the real side of him. He had an excuse for everything though and after I got upset due to how he spoke to me, he love bombed me for weeks afterwards. This included him finally agreeing to meet some of my family and friends and we went on another weekend away, but I was unknowingly hooked in an abusive cycle with him.

He refused to add me on socials, saying he didn’t use them because he had a “cleanse” 2 years ago and didn’t know his passwords. By now my trust had gone though and I could see his follower count on Instagram rising.

By April, I would see him 2-3 times a week but never at his house. He told me his brother and brothers gf had moved in whilst they looked for a house so they weren’t in a chain, and was very reluctant for me to meet them or any of his friends/family really, calling them “psychos”. He bad mouthed everyone. Although I never met his family or friends, he met mine and would often be negative about them after we left, saying things like “he was really judgmental wasn’t he” or “she was a big girl wasn’t she”. He would constantly bombard me with texts and wouldn’t like it if I didn’t respond to him straight away. I started to become really unhappy and knew something was off but always doubted it even though I should have listened to my gut. He always said things like “when we get married” and “when we have kids” and was starting to seem controlling. He would say how he couldn’t wait for me to meet his parents because they’d love me but … that time never seemed to come.

At the beginning of June, 7 days before our first holiday abroad together, he ended it. He did it over text in a very cold and callous way. He said his ex wife found out about us (which he seemed to blame me for?) and was stalking and harassing him which he found stressful and he didn’t feel he was in emotionally the right place for a relationship! I didn’t believe it. A few weeks later, I was on a hen do and when drunk got talking to a friend of the bride who was a nurse. I mentioned my ex, showed her photos and the colour drained from her face. She said she worked with him previously and that her sister lived in their street and he has never been divorced from his wife. They live together. She followed him on Instagram (but not FB) but his grid contained happy photos of them together throughout our relationship. On the night I saw his car in the city, they’d gone out for an anniversary meal. He also followed a huge amount of local women and insta models who’s photos he constantly likes. He also started following an old friend of mine a few months ago, around the same time she split up with her bf and began using dating apps, so I also wonder if he has been on them when we were in a rship. I blocked him whilst I was on the hen.

I’ve been in complete turmoil these past few weeks. Yes I know I’ve dodged a bullet and I know I was in an emotionally abusive rship (with a narcissist at least or psychopath at best) but please be kind, I’m feeling fragile at the moment and very silly and stupid.

I’ve found his wife on social media. I’ve been told she is absolutely lovely, extremely popular, and the stories about fertility struggles have been verified for which my heart goes out to her. They have no children, neither do I. What do I do? If it was me, I’d want to know. But as you can see, he has dangerous tendencies, and I worry about what he would do. I have a cat and dog I absolutely adore, he was always very shifty around them and would never interact with them which I found unusual. It was as if he didn’t like them because they took attention off him. I worry he may harm them or cause damage to my house or car or something but not sure if I’m worrying too much and that I should just message her.

Any advice?

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DragonflyNights · 17/07/2022 10:09

Sorry you went through this. He sounds awful and I really feel for his wife. I’m normally in the tell them camp in these sorts of situations (being an unwitting OW) but the way you describe him does make him sound dangerous and also highly manipulative.I expect he’s got cover stories galore lined up to mitigate anything you might tell her.

Its a tough one as I think his wife deserves to know the truth - could this person who knows his wife have a word do you think?

MsMcGonagall · 17/07/2022 10:12

I'm really sorry that this bastard has done this to you. It's a comprehensive deception, and as you have accurately been able to see, abusive.

Also you've done great to block him. I would try to work further on your self-preservation, recovery, coming back to your own emotional health.

I wouldn't contact his wife. You don't know her. It does risk you having to have contact with him again. It sounds like there are others who can talk with her (others from the hen?) and/or maybe she already knows (re his comments about his "exwife'".

takeitandleaveit · 17/07/2022 10:13

Firstly, you had a lucky escape.

Secondly, I'd stay well out of it, especially if you think he could become volatile towards you. You need to put your own safety first. Leave it to someone else to tell her. You don't know her at all, and he is far more likely to tell her that you are a crazy stalker who's making it all up than he is to admit that he's a lying, cheating scumbag.

Comedycook · 17/07/2022 10:14

Don't do anything. Just leave it.

cushioncovers · 17/07/2022 10:15

Just leave it don't get involved in telling her.

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:22

DragonflyNights · 17/07/2022 10:09

Sorry you went through this. He sounds awful and I really feel for his wife. I’m normally in the tell them camp in these sorts of situations (being an unwitting OW) but the way you describe him does make him sound dangerous and also highly manipulative.I expect he’s got cover stories galore lined up to mitigate anything you might tell her.

Its a tough one as I think his wife deserves to know the truth - could this person who knows his wife have a word do you think?

Thank you. I think as soon as I saw I’d blocked him he would have begun doing the ground work with his wife, probably preparing her to get a message from some “psycho woman”. However if I did message her, I would have attached evidence so there was no doubt in her mind.

I did think about asking the girl from the hen to help me out, but a lot of the information she’s given me has come from her sister (who lives on his street), and I’m worried he’ll be able to trace everything back to those two women and they will be at the receiving end of any backlash as well.

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LouLou198 · 17/07/2022 10:27

Sounds like you have had a lucky escape, but what an awful thing to go through.
My guess is he has had several affairs, his wife may even know. As hard as it is I would leave it and do nothing. Flowers

Runningdownthehill22 · 17/07/2022 10:28

Leave it and see it as a lucky escape.

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:28

MsMcGonagall · 17/07/2022 10:12

I'm really sorry that this bastard has done this to you. It's a comprehensive deception, and as you have accurately been able to see, abusive.

Also you've done great to block him. I would try to work further on your self-preservation, recovery, coming back to your own emotional health.

I wouldn't contact his wife. You don't know her. It does risk you having to have contact with him again. It sounds like there are others who can talk with her (others from the hen?) and/or maybe she already knows (re his comments about his "exwife'".

Thanks so much. You wouldn’t believe it but I’ve actually got my head screwed on, or at least, I did until I met him! I haven’t even gone into a fraction of the efforts he went to lie to me, clearly fabricating photos of things etc, so crafty. But I have already started therapy and am feeling better but can’t shake guilt for his wife.

At this point I think he must be a serial cheater, and I guarantee somebody in the last however many years of their relationship has told her, so I suppose she likely knows what he’s like. I’m not sure if she suspects anything about me and him. She doesn’t know me, but I do wonder where she thinks he was when we went away for weekends together. The rest of the time was easy for him to cover up because we saw each other during the day, and she works 9-5 in an office. Also his shifts are obviously varied so he probably pulled that excuse on us both

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Hurstlandshome · 17/07/2022 10:29

No good will come from telling the wife. She may already know. You'll end up looking the bad person here,

Focus your energies on healing from this awful experience 💐

Movinghouseatlast · 17/07/2022 10:31

If he is as dangerous as you make him.out to be then do nothing. He may be as controlling with her- he probably is. She may prefer not to know.

You have blocked him which is great, just keep away from him and don't take responsibility for his wife's happiness. She has tomtake responsibility for that.

HangingOver · 17/07/2022 10:32

It's such a shit situation OP. I'd want to know as well.

beastlyslumber · 17/07/2022 10:33

You've got away. The horrible thing is that the wife probably won't believe you and telling her will only bring trouble on yourself.

Eslteacher06 · 17/07/2022 10:38

Im usually tell her camp too but you know this will cause massive issues. Why do you really want to tell her? Part of that will be to do with 'justice', even if you don't want to admit it.

Even if you tell her, she may take out her anger on you. She may not believe you and he will may try to ruin your reputation.

As hard as it is to do, walk away with dignity. It will drag out the drama if you contact the wife.

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:40

Thanks everyone. I could easily prove it due to texts he’s sent about their fake divorce, him bad mouthing her (I’ve got hundreds of those!), selfies of us both away, naked photos of himself he sent to me (I never reciprocated luckily!) honestly there would be no end to the evidence.

But if he’s as controlling as I suspect he is, I wouldn’t even be surprised if he has access to her socials to intercept anything before it reaches her. Also for her to have been in a relationship with him for well over a decade, well I dread the control he has over her and I imagine she would still take him back even if she did believe me.

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VioletVesper · 17/07/2022 10:43

Sorry this happened to you OP, it must have felt awful when you learned the truth and I imagine you have mixed emotions given you had feelings for him.

I’m always in the ‘tell her’ camp but on this occasion, I think just move on. You are very likely right that he’s done it before and either the wife knows and chooses to stay or, given how manipulative he his, he lies his way out of it. He has already taken enough of your time and energy so I wouldn’t give him anymore by telling his wife and potentially dealing with the fallout. He sounds dangerous so I’d put your yourself first and cut ties quietly.

Oh and what you said about having your head screwed on - don’t blame yourself. You clearly did notice the signs something was off and when you are a decent and honest person, which it sounds like you are (you sound lovely!) I think you automatically expect the same from others.

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:43

Eslteacher06 · 17/07/2022 10:38

Im usually tell her camp too but you know this will cause massive issues. Why do you really want to tell her? Part of that will be to do with 'justice', even if you don't want to admit it.

Even if you tell her, she may take out her anger on you. She may not believe you and he will may try to ruin your reputation.

As hard as it is to do, walk away with dignity. It will drag out the drama if you contact the wife.

Yeah, a lot of my friends have said I should tell the wife, girl code and all that, so I think I got a bit confused and came to this forum to see what other people thought. I suppose I was probably looking for some sort of justification not to tell her, which I think I’ve found.

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:46

VioletVesper · 17/07/2022 10:43

Sorry this happened to you OP, it must have felt awful when you learned the truth and I imagine you have mixed emotions given you had feelings for him.

I’m always in the ‘tell her’ camp but on this occasion, I think just move on. You are very likely right that he’s done it before and either the wife knows and chooses to stay or, given how manipulative he his, he lies his way out of it. He has already taken enough of your time and energy so I wouldn’t give him anymore by telling his wife and potentially dealing with the fallout. He sounds dangerous so I’d put your yourself first and cut ties quietly.

Oh and what you said about having your head screwed on - don’t blame yourself. You clearly did notice the signs something was off and when you are a decent and honest person, which it sounds like you are (you sound lovely!) I think you automatically expect the same from others.

Thanks so much. I could see the red flags popping up but he was so deceptive, and it was so long before I could get any hard evidence of what was happening.

You are right, crazily I did have mixed emotions when this all came to light because I genuinely was in love with him. It’s hard processing that I was in love with a person that didn’t exist. I actually still miss the version of the person I thought he was, but the anger does help subside that and I know I will be able to fully heal eventually 💓

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AramintaLee · 17/07/2022 10:53

I'm going to go against the grain here and say to tell the wife.

The guy is clearly a manipulative liar at the very least and if you tell her, she then has the choice to decide if she wants to have a baby with that sort of man or if she deserves better and then has the opportunity to find the man she deserves.

Serial cheaters are very good at covering their tracks and hiding their behaviour, so it's likely she doesn't know what he's really like... but one day he'll show his true colours and by that time, she might have had his child and be stuck with him for life.

I would tell her everything I know and then the choice is hers. If it were me, as painful as it would be to hear, I'd want to know and i think I would ultimately be grateful. At the end of the day, you managed to dodge a bullet and you can help her dodge one too.

Eslteacher06 · 17/07/2022 10:53

Really think....why do you have girl code and feel guilt over a stranger? It is very unlikely they will do the same for you.

Just because you have something to say, doesn't mean the person you are telling wants to listen.

Plus you can speak the same language and have a million interpretations.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Honestly celebrate the fact you got away before anything more serious happened. Focus on that. Blimey imagine you had kids?!

Uk38 · 17/07/2022 10:54

I'd also say don't tell her as he does sound a potential psycho but I do feel a little tempted to send him screenshots of the pictures you found just to let him know that you know. The panic that would send him into would be a worthy punishment but it also risks him trying to shut you up.

dottiedodah · 17/07/2022 10:56

I would not tell her .Likelihood is she knows or at least suspects something . You have dodged a bullet for sure ,although it probably doesnt help you to feel any better right now. Some men are like this .He has a very nice life with his DW ,Career as a Doctor and so on .Just has to have a little on the side ! Have a nice time with your pets .At 29 you have years to find the right guy who wont badmouth your relatives and will engage with pets!

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:02

Uk38 · 17/07/2022 10:54

I'd also say don't tell her as he does sound a potential psycho but I do feel a little tempted to send him screenshots of the pictures you found just to let him know that you know. The panic that would send him into would be a worthy punishment but it also risks him trying to shut you up.

Thank you. I should have said in my OP that before I blocked him I said something like “I know. Don’t contact me again” (oops, probably wouldn’t have said that if I wasn’t drunk!) hence why I think he’s then started doing groundwork with his wife and that he may be expecting me to message her.

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ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 17/07/2022 11:04

Never trust anyone who doesn't get on with your animals!!!!

Huge red flag.

Agree don't mention to his wife for no other reason as he sounds really scary and appears that he would take revenge, probably psychologically.

Honeyroar · 17/07/2022 11:06

I wouldn’t have any hesitations in factually telling the wife, and find women who watch and say nothing strange, but if you really think he could be dangerous it changes things a bit.