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Found out I was the other woman, bf has been married for 8 years, do I tell his wife?

121 replies

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:00

Name change for this one. Apologies in advance for the long story

I met a man on online dating in 2021. I’m 29 and he is 37. His profile said he was looking for something long term (as was I). We had very (almost scaringly similar) interests and hit it off right away. Before we met, he told me he was divorced. He said his divorce was finalised in 2020 after being initiated following separation in late 2019. He said he’d been married for 5 years and was in a relationship for 13 years with her altogether. He said they “settled” for each other and there was no love, or spark, they had incompatible personalities and no shared interests. He also told me that they wanted kids but that she had fertility problems and although they agreed not to have children, he always struggled with this decision. He told me he initiated the break up but that they both mutually agreed it was for the best.

We went on our first date in September 2021. We hit it off. For the first few months, we would go on about one date per week (sometimes less), always for a walk or cuppa or lunch. It was slower than the pace I was used to, but I was also relieved that he wasn’t just after sex. I started pushing for us to have a weekend night out date too, but he was a doctor (true) and would always use work as an excuse to let me down last minute.

Things finally ramped up in November time and he stayed at mine once or twice. We also had a weekend away together. Just before the New Year, I went abroad for a few weeks on a work trip which was not ideal, because then in February he went on a 10 day trip abroad by himself (although I obviously now doubt this was the case). Throughout this time, however he would text me constantly, to the point where it was beginning to negatively impact my life and I had to say we needed to cut it down. He would send me extravagant gifts to my house, would brag about money, told me he loved me and that we were soul mates and that he’d never had a connection like it in his life.

When he returned, we were supposed to go to dinner one night and then stay at his house, but he cancelled on me due to work. I went into the city anyway and was surprised to see his car in the car park and not at work. I kept this to myself and instead did some research online which resulted in me finding his Facebook. He told me he didn’t have Facebook. He was hard to find as he had purposely spelt his first name backwards.

When I challenged him, he reacted very negatively, calling me a stalker and the mask truly slipped and I saw the real side of him. He had an excuse for everything though and after I got upset due to how he spoke to me, he love bombed me for weeks afterwards. This included him finally agreeing to meet some of my family and friends and we went on another weekend away, but I was unknowingly hooked in an abusive cycle with him.

He refused to add me on socials, saying he didn’t use them because he had a “cleanse” 2 years ago and didn’t know his passwords. By now my trust had gone though and I could see his follower count on Instagram rising.

By April, I would see him 2-3 times a week but never at his house. He told me his brother and brothers gf had moved in whilst they looked for a house so they weren’t in a chain, and was very reluctant for me to meet them or any of his friends/family really, calling them “psychos”. He bad mouthed everyone. Although I never met his family or friends, he met mine and would often be negative about them after we left, saying things like “he was really judgmental wasn’t he” or “she was a big girl wasn’t she”. He would constantly bombard me with texts and wouldn’t like it if I didn’t respond to him straight away. I started to become really unhappy and knew something was off but always doubted it even though I should have listened to my gut. He always said things like “when we get married” and “when we have kids” and was starting to seem controlling. He would say how he couldn’t wait for me to meet his parents because they’d love me but … that time never seemed to come.

At the beginning of June, 7 days before our first holiday abroad together, he ended it. He did it over text in a very cold and callous way. He said his ex wife found out about us (which he seemed to blame me for?) and was stalking and harassing him which he found stressful and he didn’t feel he was in emotionally the right place for a relationship! I didn’t believe it. A few weeks later, I was on a hen do and when drunk got talking to a friend of the bride who was a nurse. I mentioned my ex, showed her photos and the colour drained from her face. She said she worked with him previously and that her sister lived in their street and he has never been divorced from his wife. They live together. She followed him on Instagram (but not FB) but his grid contained happy photos of them together throughout our relationship. On the night I saw his car in the city, they’d gone out for an anniversary meal. He also followed a huge amount of local women and insta models who’s photos he constantly likes. He also started following an old friend of mine a few months ago, around the same time she split up with her bf and began using dating apps, so I also wonder if he has been on them when we were in a rship. I blocked him whilst I was on the hen.

I’ve been in complete turmoil these past few weeks. Yes I know I’ve dodged a bullet and I know I was in an emotionally abusive rship (with a narcissist at least or psychopath at best) but please be kind, I’m feeling fragile at the moment and very silly and stupid.

I’ve found his wife on social media. I’ve been told she is absolutely lovely, extremely popular, and the stories about fertility struggles have been verified for which my heart goes out to her. They have no children, neither do I. What do I do? If it was me, I’d want to know. But as you can see, he has dangerous tendencies, and I worry about what he would do. I have a cat and dog I absolutely adore, he was always very shifty around them and would never interact with them which I found unusual. It was as if he didn’t like them because they took attention off him. I worry he may harm them or cause damage to my house or car or something but not sure if I’m worrying too much and that I should just message her.

Any advice?

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LuckyLil · 19/07/2022 23:28

I think you have to be honest with your motives. Are you wanting to tell her because you genuinely care about her and want to help her, or is it because you want revenge on him for treating you so badly? If it's the latter then you're not coming from a place of genuine concern for her.

OldFan · 19/07/2022 23:41

I agree with Honeyroar. I would usually say tell her, but if you think he could potentially harm you or your furbabies then of course you shouldn't.

TiredBeyondTired · 19/07/2022 23:52

Another no to telling his wife. Not your problem. I think you’ve had enough of this man’s problems. Keep away from him completely.

user1477391263 · 20/07/2022 00:02

I would tell her, just in case she is planning a pregnancy with this guy.

Livelovebehappy · 20/07/2022 00:13

I think you have to ask yourself whether you are telling her for her sake, or whether it’s your way of creating drama/having your revenge. I suspect it’s the latter - it’s usually the case in these situations. You don’t know her, so I don’t understand why you feel you owe her anything.

DrSophia · 20/07/2022 00:52

Honestly, I would tell her. I think she should know what a bastard he is but I will admit that I would also love to see a little bit of his world begin to crumble.

I'm horrid, I know that but I would provide enough proof to leave her in no doubt that what I was saying was true.

Cornflakegirll · 20/07/2022 06:56

I’m always in the tell camp. Being cheated on rips your life choices away. It puts you at risk of STDs and wrecks your mental and emotional health. So I’d always tell.

Roselilly36 · 20/07/2022 07:17

Leave well alone OP, focus on you.

He sounds quite a dangerous man, he wasn’t the person you thought he was. He seems quite a manipulative person.

Should you tell his wife, he will no doubt twist things and she will more than likely believe his versions of events, because she will want too.

She may well have suspected he’s been having an affair, you may not have been his first and I expect not his last.

Wishing you much happiness OP, take time to heal and then move forward with your life. Good luck.

billy1966 · 20/07/2022 08:15

Highly likely his wife knows.

At least you can ask your friends sister to gossip about him at work and put the word out what a nasty psycho he is.

Him getting the side eye at work, having the feeling he is the source of gossip is how you deal with men like him.

If he approaches you in any way, contact his employer and report him.

He has shown himself to be of very poor character and you have proof of it.

Don't be tempted to delete anything.

BlueWhat · 20/07/2022 08:41

OMG! This sounds very similar to a doctor my friend was dating.

He hit on her when she took her child to see him (he's a consultant). He text her using the number on the hospital form!!

Luckily she saw through him after one date but I'm still aghast that he broke so many rules by texting her!! Red flag right there!

Lulu996 · 20/07/2022 08:58

My ex was a doctor, also a compulsive liar with a secret fiancée and lots of other women on the side. He gave me an STI during my pregnancy and put me and our unborn under a lot of harm. I reached out to her but she wasn’t interested so when I got my results I asked the clinic to contact him. Honestly you are better off without this waste of a man and he will do the same thing again eventually showing his true colours. I understand it can be incredibly painful when you’ve been so betrayed and deceived and they seem to get off without any consequences. She will find out who he is as he won’t be able to keep up the charade for long.

MajorCarolDanvers · 20/07/2022 09:04

I have a relative who had a very similar experience to you.

She found out because the wife found out and told her.

My relative has always been grateful she was told.

I would tell the wife.

ILikeHotWaterBottles · 20/07/2022 09:09

Honestly I'd tell her. She deserves to know, and I'd tell my friends who might be being targeted by him now too.

And I'd let him know that if he even tries to do anything to me, if he comes near me, my house or my animals in any manner I do not approve of, it will be harassment and I will destroy his career, which is very easy when he is a doctor. Then block him on everything. If he does do anything, he has been warned.

Macaroni1924 · 20/07/2022 11:02

I would want to know 100% Would I instantly believe you? I can’t say I 100% would but then you do have evidence. I know I would certainly go away and do my own snooping and be on alert.
A wife of couple we were friends with had an affair. Her husband went to the hospital and told the wife. The poor wife had suspected it but he had made her out to be paranoid and set up counselling for her and she was beginning to doubt her own mental health!! Guys and women like this are the lowest. Two families broken up with 5 kids between them all because they couldn’t keep it in their pants.

savethatkitty · 20/07/2022 11:12

If you can back up your claims & have evidence that you really weren't aware he was (a cheating, lying wanker) married, I would absolutely tell his wife. Every sordid message, I'd spill all the tea. There is a high probability she might suspect, but doesn't know for sure, her husband is a douche. Personally, I feel by keeping quiet, this dickhead will continue to get away with disrespecting his wife & women in general.

Lilliesbloom · 20/07/2022 11:47

Lulu996 · 20/07/2022 08:58

My ex was a doctor, also a compulsive liar with a secret fiancée and lots of other women on the side. He gave me an STI during my pregnancy and put me and our unborn under a lot of harm. I reached out to her but she wasn’t interested so when I got my results I asked the clinic to contact him. Honestly you are better off without this waste of a man and he will do the same thing again eventually showing his true colours. I understand it can be incredibly painful when you’ve been so betrayed and deceived and they seem to get off without any consequences. She will find out who he is as he won’t be able to keep up the charade for long.

So sorry to hear that happened to you, a “secret fiancé” what the f*!

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Pandaparty · 20/07/2022 11:51

For your own sake, I don't think you should tell her. He sounds like a really horrible man who would hate you getting one over on him.

If you did want to give her a heads up, I suppose you could set up a false account and try to get a screenshot of his online dating profile - assuming he's back on there, hunting for fresh meat. Then send it to her anonymously In a few months. But given that would be far less evidence than you actually have, he'd be able to explain that away even more easily, and it might still rebound on you. I think I would just leave it though it sucks for his poor wife.

billy1966 · 20/07/2022 11:52

Medical Ethics Committees take this type of thing very seriously.

He has shown a terrible lack of judgement.

I certainly wouldn't want to be treated by a man with such a fundamental lack of respect for women.

8 years is a very long time.

The temptation to send a copy of all correspondence to his wife and the hospital must be very tempting.

I would doubt you are the only victim of his lies.

Lilliesbloom · 20/07/2022 11:52

savethatkitty · 20/07/2022 11:12

If you can back up your claims & have evidence that you really weren't aware he was (a cheating, lying wanker) married, I would absolutely tell his wife. Every sordid message, I'd spill all the tea. There is a high probability she might suspect, but doesn't know for sure, her husband is a douche. Personally, I feel by keeping quiet, this dickhead will continue to get away with disrespecting his wife & women in general.

seriously the amount of evidence I have is crazy, countless messages from him talking about how dead his marriage “was”, even years before he “left her”, talking about how assets were split in the divorce, how mentally unstable she is, how she”s been “stalking” him, how his family all thought she was too plain and had “no personality”.

Then there’s all the messages between us about how in love we are, photos of us together on breaks away, the evidence is endless. I wouldn’t even know where to start with what to include.

If I do contact her, I’m not sure how, given likelihood he controls her social media?

OP posts:
Lilliesbloom · 20/07/2022 11:55

billy1966 · 20/07/2022 11:52

Medical Ethics Committees take this type of thing very seriously.

He has shown a terrible lack of judgement.

I certainly wouldn't want to be treated by a man with such a fundamental lack of respect for women.

8 years is a very long time.

The temptation to send a copy of all correspondence to his wife and the hospital must be very tempting.

I would doubt you are the only victim of his lies.

The temptation is overwhelming and all consuming tbh! I’m sure they’d have something to say over all this.

Yes, 8 years married but together for even longer.

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Lilliesbloom · 20/07/2022 11:59

Pandaparty · 20/07/2022 11:51

For your own sake, I don't think you should tell her. He sounds like a really horrible man who would hate you getting one over on him.

If you did want to give her a heads up, I suppose you could set up a false account and try to get a screenshot of his online dating profile - assuming he's back on there, hunting for fresh meat. Then send it to her anonymously In a few months. But given that would be far less evidence than you actually have, he'd be able to explain that away even more easily, and it might still rebound on you. I think I would just leave it though it sucks for his poor wife.

That’s not a bad idea though and not one I’d previously considered, although yes like you say it’s a lot less damning than just sending her all the evidence I have. I think he’d have an inkling I’d done it.

i also think he would launch a smear campaign against me. He has plenty of ammunition in our messages, presuming he never deleted them. I’ve got a strained relationship with my sister and brother in law and he could destroy the relationship entirely with messages I’d sent him about them :(

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Pyewhacket · 20/07/2022 12:03

Runningdownthehill22 · 17/07/2022 10:28

Leave it and see it as a lucky escape.

Yep. That's what I would do.

velvetvixen · 20/07/2022 12:07

Just leave it OP. He sounds dangerous. Leave the whole mess firmly in the past.

Trainfromredhill · 20/07/2022 12:12

Medical Ethics Committees take this type of thing very seriously

and your evidence for this is?

if the medical ethics committee were to investigate every dr or nurse who had cheated they would do little else.

If their actions aren’t directly affecting patients no one is interested.

BlueWhat · 20/07/2022 12:24

And a top tip for you ... if a bf slags of an ex to that extent (family said she was plain, psycho etc) then run to hills!

It's a number one red flag!