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Found out I was the other woman, bf has been married for 8 years, do I tell his wife?

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:00

Name change for this one. Apologies in advance for the long story

I met a man on online dating in 2021. I’m 29 and he is 37. His profile said he was looking for something long term (as was I). We had very (almost scaringly similar) interests and hit it off right away. Before we met, he told me he was divorced. He said his divorce was finalised in 2020 after being initiated following separation in late 2019. He said he’d been married for 5 years and was in a relationship for 13 years with her altogether. He said they “settled” for each other and there was no love, or spark, they had incompatible personalities and no shared interests. He also told me that they wanted kids but that she had fertility problems and although they agreed not to have children, he always struggled with this decision. He told me he initiated the break up but that they both mutually agreed it was for the best.

We went on our first date in September 2021. We hit it off. For the first few months, we would go on about one date per week (sometimes less), always for a walk or cuppa or lunch. It was slower than the pace I was used to, but I was also relieved that he wasn’t just after sex. I started pushing for us to have a weekend night out date too, but he was a doctor (true) and would always use work as an excuse to let me down last minute.

Things finally ramped up in November time and he stayed at mine once or twice. We also had a weekend away together. Just before the New Year, I went abroad for a few weeks on a work trip which was not ideal, because then in February he went on a 10 day trip abroad by himself (although I obviously now doubt this was the case). Throughout this time, however he would text me constantly, to the point where it was beginning to negatively impact my life and I had to say we needed to cut it down. He would send me extravagant gifts to my house, would brag about money, told me he loved me and that we were soul mates and that he’d never had a connection like it in his life.

When he returned, we were supposed to go to dinner one night and then stay at his house, but he cancelled on me due to work. I went into the city anyway and was surprised to see his car in the car park and not at work. I kept this to myself and instead did some research online which resulted in me finding his Facebook. He told me he didn’t have Facebook. He was hard to find as he had purposely spelt his first name backwards.

When I challenged him, he reacted very negatively, calling me a stalker and the mask truly slipped and I saw the real side of him. He had an excuse for everything though and after I got upset due to how he spoke to me, he love bombed me for weeks afterwards. This included him finally agreeing to meet some of my family and friends and we went on another weekend away, but I was unknowingly hooked in an abusive cycle with him.

He refused to add me on socials, saying he didn’t use them because he had a “cleanse” 2 years ago and didn’t know his passwords. By now my trust had gone though and I could see his follower count on Instagram rising.

By April, I would see him 2-3 times a week but never at his house. He told me his brother and brothers gf had moved in whilst they looked for a house so they weren’t in a chain, and was very reluctant for me to meet them or any of his friends/family really, calling them “psychos”. He bad mouthed everyone. Although I never met his family or friends, he met mine and would often be negative about them after we left, saying things like “he was really judgmental wasn’t he” or “she was a big girl wasn’t she”. He would constantly bombard me with texts and wouldn’t like it if I didn’t respond to him straight away. I started to become really unhappy and knew something was off but always doubted it even though I should have listened to my gut. He always said things like “when we get married” and “when we have kids” and was starting to seem controlling. He would say how he couldn’t wait for me to meet his parents because they’d love me but … that time never seemed to come.

At the beginning of June, 7 days before our first holiday abroad together, he ended it. He did it over text in a very cold and callous way. He said his ex wife found out about us (which he seemed to blame me for?) and was stalking and harassing him which he found stressful and he didn’t feel he was in emotionally the right place for a relationship! I didn’t believe it. A few weeks later, I was on a hen do and when drunk got talking to a friend of the bride who was a nurse. I mentioned my ex, showed her photos and the colour drained from her face. She said she worked with him previously and that her sister lived in their street and he has never been divorced from his wife. They live together. She followed him on Instagram (but not FB) but his grid contained happy photos of them together throughout our relationship. On the night I saw his car in the city, they’d gone out for an anniversary meal. He also followed a huge amount of local women and insta models who’s photos he constantly likes. He also started following an old friend of mine a few months ago, around the same time she split up with her bf and began using dating apps, so I also wonder if he has been on them when we were in a rship. I blocked him whilst I was on the hen.

I’ve been in complete turmoil these past few weeks. Yes I know I’ve dodged a bullet and I know I was in an emotionally abusive rship (with a narcissist at least or psychopath at best) but please be kind, I’m feeling fragile at the moment and very silly and stupid.

I’ve found his wife on social media. I’ve been told she is absolutely lovely, extremely popular, and the stories about fertility struggles have been verified for which my heart goes out to her. They have no children, neither do I. What do I do? If it was me, I’d want to know. But as you can see, he has dangerous tendencies, and I worry about what he would do. I have a cat and dog I absolutely adore, he was always very shifty around them and would never interact with them which I found unusual. It was as if he didn’t like them because they took attention off him. I worry he may harm them or cause damage to my house or car or something but not sure if I’m worrying too much and that I should just message her.

Any advice?

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:08

Eslteacher06 · 17/07/2022 10:53

Really think....why do you have girl code and feel guilt over a stranger? It is very unlikely they will do the same for you.

Just because you have something to say, doesn't mean the person you are telling wants to listen.

Plus you can speak the same language and have a million interpretations.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Honestly celebrate the fact you got away before anything more serious happened. Focus on that. Blimey imagine you had kids?!

I dread to think what kind of Dad he would be. When we were together he was really intolerant of any children we came into contact with. There was a child crying next to us on a table once and he insisted we move! I think he only wants kids as an extension of himself, I can’t see how he would be capable of giving them any love.

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:10

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 17/07/2022 11:04

Never trust anyone who doesn't get on with your animals!!!!

Huge red flag.

Agree don't mention to his wife for no other reason as he sounds really scary and appears that he would take revenge, probably psychologically.

I agree, I always found it odd. What was quite chilling is when we were out, he would always make a fuss over peoples animals (like my best friends dog), but never so much as acknowledged my dog. Weird eh? Again, presumably giving off the impression to everyone else how great he is, but was a different story behind closed doors.

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:11

Honeyroar · 17/07/2022 11:06

I wouldn’t have any hesitations in factually telling the wife, and find women who watch and say nothing strange, but if you really think he could be dangerous it changes things a bit.

I think that’s it, it’s how dangerous he could be in retaliation. If he’s as psychopathic as his behaviour suggests, I wouldn’t put anything past him :(

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ShandaLear · 17/07/2022 11:15

I would definitely tell. It’s wrong to allow people to get away with appalling behaviour. By not condemning it you’re condoning it. If it was me I would definitely want to know. I’d do it factually and possibly face to face if it was possible (I don’t know how you’d manage to do that, but it would make it harder for him to wriggle out of it).

Oblomov22 · 17/07/2022 11:21

Your driving force for wanting to tell her is hurt. This is not a good motive. Deal with your own hurt without hurting anyone else. You are hurting. It's you that needs help and support right now.

Purplecatshopaholic · 17/07/2022 11:23

I was the wife in a very similar situation. I would want to know, but I say that now, as someone who is out of the situation/divorced. While I was in the middle of my marriage to a person similar to who describe, it is highly unlikely I would have believed you. Even if I did, through evidence, he would have talked me round (and I am a clever, educated person believe it or not, but these men are devious and manipulative). He probably has laid ground work so he is ‘covered’ if something is said to her about you or others. He will likely have her IT all locked down, probably without her knowing (my ex had mine controlled for years without my knowledge). I would keep the evidence you have - you just never know when it might come in handy, but don’t use it just now.
You are right that you did not love a ‘real’ person. I am sorry you went through it. Be very glad you escaped.

Yummyhobnobsandtea · 17/07/2022 11:26

How horrible for you!

I am really torn as if it was me and my husband was a brazen cheat I would desperately want to know so that I could dump his ass and stop being humiliated.

But for yourself it could cause a load of hassle you don’t need, so for your own self preservation I probably wouldn’t say.
If he is a serial cheat she will find out one day. Poor woman.

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:43

Purplecatshopaholic · 17/07/2022 11:23

I was the wife in a very similar situation. I would want to know, but I say that now, as someone who is out of the situation/divorced. While I was in the middle of my marriage to a person similar to who describe, it is highly unlikely I would have believed you. Even if I did, through evidence, he would have talked me round (and I am a clever, educated person believe it or not, but these men are devious and manipulative). He probably has laid ground work so he is ‘covered’ if something is said to her about you or others. He will likely have her IT all locked down, probably without her knowing (my ex had mine controlled for years without my knowledge). I would keep the evidence you have - you just never know when it might come in handy, but don’t use it just now.
You are right that you did not love a ‘real’ person. I am sorry you went through it. Be very glad you escaped.

Thanks, it’s so interesting to hear it from
this point of view. I really think he will have her social media under control. They both have very high privacy settings on all
platforms. Even if he doesn’t have access to her accounts, I hear what you are saying and believe he would have managed to talk her round even with all the evidence provided to her. I could give her undeniable evidence but I suppose he could then pull the whole “you weren’t making me happy in our relationship” card, aka admitting the affair but putting the blame on her. He would never take responsibility for his actions.

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Ultimatebetrayal · 17/07/2022 12:28

Fgs don't send any pics of him that you have. That's a criminal offence.

I'm with the don't tell her. She probably won't believe you anyway

Cakecakecheese · 17/07/2022 12:38

The wife does deserve to know but your priority is your own safety.

beastlyslumber · 17/07/2022 14:54

You fell for the true love scam, OP. I've been there too. www.truelovescam.com/d-i-y-guide-to-a-sociopaths-psyche/

I think generally the best advice in these situations is to get as far away as possible from the individual in question and don't give him any reason to think about you again! These people are very frightening.

The wife won't believe you. I wouldn't have believed you if you'd told me. You probably wouldn't have believed it if you'd been warned at the beginning. If you tell her, you are risking become his target.

If there's a way you could tell her without it coming back on you, then you might think about that. Gossip between your friend and her sister who knows them, something like that. But otherwise, I would honestly just leave it.

whiteroseredrose · 17/07/2022 15:44

Leave it be. Nothing is worth putting your precious pets at risk.

It is her lookout. And she may have an inkling anyway.

ohdearmissus · 17/07/2022 16:03

Do nothing
Move on with your better life
Let Karma take care of him x

blandnessneveroffends · 17/07/2022 16:13

He sounds horrible OP!

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 16:55

Thanks everyone. He is an absolutely vile man :(

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Catlover1970 · 19/07/2022 20:53

He will get found out eventually. Keep your distance - he sounds like a nasty piece of work

seaUrchinOne · 19/07/2022 21:18

I expect she has an inkling about his character, as you say he likes a lot of women on SM, that's a dodgy red flag, she probably does turn a blind eye to it.
Gut feeling, when he goes out dressed up, going away again... I expect she has a good idea already but not wanting to listen to the signs.
Although ideally you would want her to know, so she has solid proof, if you don't feel safe, then don't, this isn't your fault.

StanleyBostitch · 19/07/2022 21:26

If you were the wife would you want to know? I would.

Dery · 19/07/2022 22:20

This man is dangerous. Best to keep away from the whole sad situation.

Lilliesbloom · 19/07/2022 22:33

seaUrchinOne · 19/07/2022 21:18

I expect she has an inkling about his character, as you say he likes a lot of women on SM, that's a dodgy red flag, she probably does turn a blind eye to it.
Gut feeling, when he goes out dressed up, going away again... I expect she has a good idea already but not wanting to listen to the signs.
Although ideally you would want her to know, so she has solid proof, if you don't feel safe, then don't, this isn't your fault.

Thank you. I’d be really surprised if he hasn’t cheated on her before (many times tbh) and she doesn’t already have some idea. I don’t think I’m going to tell her, as hard as that is.

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ouch321 · 19/07/2022 22:59

You're obviously not going to tell her.

You're just hoping people will help you justify it with strange assumptions like she already knows or won't believe you.

If she already knows no harm in you informing her as not news.

If she doesn't believe you then you know you've done what you can and can then just walk away.

People always say they'd want to be told and expect for the other person to have the decency and tell them yet at the same time everyone here always advocates "don't get involved".

This is how the world just gets crappier and crappier because these days people just say 'not my problem' and walk away.

This isn't just on this thread but all the others that crop up sporadically with this same dilemma.

GG1986 · 19/07/2022 23:01

This is really sad, sorry he treated you that way. I don't think you should tell her, it could backfire on you massively and will cause a lot of upset and drama for you, you can just quietly walk away knowing you had a lucky escape from this asshole!

cosmicbabe · 19/07/2022 23:21

I wouldn't be scared of him. I'd be raging!!!! I'd get all the evidence and tell your friends and family then his wife. Just in case anything happened then everyone knows the truth. Or better still go to the police and get a restraining order.

The wife deserves better and so do you.

MissSharma · 19/07/2022 23:21

Focus on you and your healing. You've done brilliantly well in blocking him - as of now this whole saga is over, and all you need to do now is heal.

If you tell his wife, you're opening up the whole thing again and exposing yourself to - at the very least - more drama, and at worst, potentially being badly hurt, harassed, smeared.

You're in the right place now to start healing. Don't reopen that wound.

MissSharma · 19/07/2022 23:23

She isn't your responsibility.

Telling her might help her, but it will almost certainly harm you.

I'm in a similar situation where I know someone is having an affair. I often wonder if I should tell his wife - but I know it would open up a whole can of drama which I don't need or deserve in my life. So I stay well clear.

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