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Found out I was the other woman, bf has been married for 8 years, do I tell his wife?

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Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 10:00

Name change for this one. Apologies in advance for the long story

I met a man on online dating in 2021. I’m 29 and he is 37. His profile said he was looking for something long term (as was I). We had very (almost scaringly similar) interests and hit it off right away. Before we met, he told me he was divorced. He said his divorce was finalised in 2020 after being initiated following separation in late 2019. He said he’d been married for 5 years and was in a relationship for 13 years with her altogether. He said they “settled” for each other and there was no love, or spark, they had incompatible personalities and no shared interests. He also told me that they wanted kids but that she had fertility problems and although they agreed not to have children, he always struggled with this decision. He told me he initiated the break up but that they both mutually agreed it was for the best.

We went on our first date in September 2021. We hit it off. For the first few months, we would go on about one date per week (sometimes less), always for a walk or cuppa or lunch. It was slower than the pace I was used to, but I was also relieved that he wasn’t just after sex. I started pushing for us to have a weekend night out date too, but he was a doctor (true) and would always use work as an excuse to let me down last minute.

Things finally ramped up in November time and he stayed at mine once or twice. We also had a weekend away together. Just before the New Year, I went abroad for a few weeks on a work trip which was not ideal, because then in February he went on a 10 day trip abroad by himself (although I obviously now doubt this was the case). Throughout this time, however he would text me constantly, to the point where it was beginning to negatively impact my life and I had to say we needed to cut it down. He would send me extravagant gifts to my house, would brag about money, told me he loved me and that we were soul mates and that he’d never had a connection like it in his life.

When he returned, we were supposed to go to dinner one night and then stay at his house, but he cancelled on me due to work. I went into the city anyway and was surprised to see his car in the car park and not at work. I kept this to myself and instead did some research online which resulted in me finding his Facebook. He told me he didn’t have Facebook. He was hard to find as he had purposely spelt his first name backwards.

When I challenged him, he reacted very negatively, calling me a stalker and the mask truly slipped and I saw the real side of him. He had an excuse for everything though and after I got upset due to how he spoke to me, he love bombed me for weeks afterwards. This included him finally agreeing to meet some of my family and friends and we went on another weekend away, but I was unknowingly hooked in an abusive cycle with him.

He refused to add me on socials, saying he didn’t use them because he had a “cleanse” 2 years ago and didn’t know his passwords. By now my trust had gone though and I could see his follower count on Instagram rising.

By April, I would see him 2-3 times a week but never at his house. He told me his brother and brothers gf had moved in whilst they looked for a house so they weren’t in a chain, and was very reluctant for me to meet them or any of his friends/family really, calling them “psychos”. He bad mouthed everyone. Although I never met his family or friends, he met mine and would often be negative about them after we left, saying things like “he was really judgmental wasn’t he” or “she was a big girl wasn’t she”. He would constantly bombard me with texts and wouldn’t like it if I didn’t respond to him straight away. I started to become really unhappy and knew something was off but always doubted it even though I should have listened to my gut. He always said things like “when we get married” and “when we have kids” and was starting to seem controlling. He would say how he couldn’t wait for me to meet his parents because they’d love me but … that time never seemed to come.

At the beginning of June, 7 days before our first holiday abroad together, he ended it. He did it over text in a very cold and callous way. He said his ex wife found out about us (which he seemed to blame me for?) and was stalking and harassing him which he found stressful and he didn’t feel he was in emotionally the right place for a relationship! I didn’t believe it. A few weeks later, I was on a hen do and when drunk got talking to a friend of the bride who was a nurse. I mentioned my ex, showed her photos and the colour drained from her face. She said she worked with him previously and that her sister lived in their street and he has never been divorced from his wife. They live together. She followed him on Instagram (but not FB) but his grid contained happy photos of them together throughout our relationship. On the night I saw his car in the city, they’d gone out for an anniversary meal. He also followed a huge amount of local women and insta models who’s photos he constantly likes. He also started following an old friend of mine a few months ago, around the same time she split up with her bf and began using dating apps, so I also wonder if he has been on them when we were in a rship. I blocked him whilst I was on the hen.

I’ve been in complete turmoil these past few weeks. Yes I know I’ve dodged a bullet and I know I was in an emotionally abusive rship (with a narcissist at least or psychopath at best) but please be kind, I’m feeling fragile at the moment and very silly and stupid.

I’ve found his wife on social media. I’ve been told she is absolutely lovely, extremely popular, and the stories about fertility struggles have been verified for which my heart goes out to her. They have no children, neither do I. What do I do? If it was me, I’d want to know. But as you can see, he has dangerous tendencies, and I worry about what he would do. I have a cat and dog I absolutely adore, he was always very shifty around them and would never interact with them which I found unusual. It was as if he didn’t like them because they took attention off him. I worry he may harm them or cause damage to my house or car or something but not sure if I’m worrying too much and that I should just message her.

Any advice?

OP posts:
Chrysmum · 20/07/2022 12:26

It would destroy her. Leave it.

billy1966 · 20/07/2022 12:36

An affair is one thing, but living a complete lie for 8 years with proof of living a double life, is another IMO.

Extramarital affairs between medical staff is generally kept on the down low.

It's a question of judgement, which is considered important in medicine.

Knowing your colleague has been living a complete lie would surely call that into question, if it became widely known.

Ethics Committees often happily turn a blind eye until things appear in the public domain and then feel compelled to act, even through back channels informally.

All I am suggesting is, he wouldn't be doing his career any favours if this became public knowledge within the hospital IMO.

As for the doctor who contacted the mother of a patient and started dating her?

Absolutely that would be frowned upon, not least for GDPR reasons.

EmmiJay · 20/07/2022 12:36

I'd tell the wife. I did!! If she really knows him, she'll be smart and get all her ducks in a row (contact solicitors, the police, housing whatever) before shoving it all back in his face.

zafferana · 20/07/2022 12:38

I would also see this as a lucky escape OP and not get involved. You know how manipulative he is and he surely lies and manipulates his wife, so anything you say you know he's going to have an answer for. He'll accuse you of being a stalker or someone who's obsessed with him and she'll fall for it - as she apparently falls for his other lies. Who does she think he was texting the whole time they were on holiday, for instance?

As for you - please use this as an experience that teaches you to trust your own instincts. It sounds like they were screaming at you that something was seriously wrong and yet you blundered on and on with this toxic relationship for two years!

Pandaparty · 20/07/2022 12:45

you blundered on and on with this toxic relationship for two years!

First date was Sept 2021 and relationship ended at start of June so more like 9 months, thankfully.

Decemberly · 20/07/2022 12:49

OP, I’m sorry this happened to you and like others I would leave well alone.

Your gut reaction was to block him and keep him out of your life, and I think that was the correct decision. What do you feel you would gain from telling his wife and the likely consequences of doing that? You have been damaged enough by this experience, and to engage any further would bring more drama and anxiety into your life. As others have said, his wife may already know what he is like, or likely will in the future. I do understand a desire to perhaps save this woman from, for example, going through the difficult process of fertility treatment with a man like this, but that is not your responsibility.

Your responsibility here is to yourself, to protect yourself and make positive choices to move on from this experience. I wish you all the best with that 💐

Newestname002 · 20/07/2022 13:05

@Lilliesbloom

I agree with those who say to disengage, don't tell the wife, keep yourself safe. You already know how manipulative, self-centred and aggressive this man is. If he feels you are a threat to him he will refocus on you and the protect himself, at your expense.

Keep your powder dry. Keep all your evidence so you can still tell his wife if you are stalked or threatened in any way but be aware that her reaction may not be what you think and you'll have put yourself at a disadvantage. The phrase "shoot the messenger" wasn't coined lightly. 🌹

billy1966 · 20/07/2022 13:08

Apologies I misread, married for 8 years, not affair length.

9 months is very different.

He's very dishonest.

No harm creating some gossip about him though.

YouOKHun · 20/07/2022 13:15

Lilliesbloom · 17/07/2022 11:11

I think that’s it, it’s how dangerous he could be in retaliation. If he’s as psychopathic as his behaviour suggests, I wouldn’t put anything past him :(

Yes I agree, your description of him is concerning and it could be the catalyst not only for real difficulties for you but also for his partner if she does confront him. Of course, that’s not your responsibility but it would be a factor in my instinct not to out him, even though he deserves it and his partner deserves the truth (if she doesn’t already know it). Don’t feel guilty, you’re equally a victim of his deception and you are NOT the reason for his partner’s very unhappy circumstances.

WireSkills · 20/07/2022 13:22

I can't advise on the "should you tell the wife" comment, but absolutely never, ever, trust a man that doesn't like your pets! Or even more appropriate - never trust a man that your pets don't like!

You definitely dodged a bullet on that one.

DaphneSprucesPippasClack · 20/07/2022 13:24

Never settle for someone who doesn't relate well to your pets! I've always believed in that. My OLD profile used to end with 'must love cats'

Oyoyo · 20/07/2022 13:31

No!!! Don’t communicate with her. It’s not a moral issue FGS. It’s not even your business! You were also very naieve to accept his excuses, so he chose you well (having our naievity exposed is unfortunately part of the process of growing up 😞). He’s a dangerous nut job (accusing you of stalking). Let go. FGS get away from him.

Ladyof2022 · 20/07/2022 13:34

Moving forward, I am deeply concerned that you ignored so many red flags whilst you were dating him.

You believed so much crap, so easily. You believed so many excuses and stories and lies. You did not even mind his calling his family "psychos". What kind of doctor does that?

So, moving forward, you really need to work on yourself to make absolutely sure you have boundaries and that you take heed of red flags in the future and demand better for yourself than a man who behaves as he has done.

You have to make yourself believe that you deserve better.

SuperCamp · 20/07/2022 13:34

You didn’t knowingly enter a relationship with a married man. Horrible as it is, his marriage isn’t your concern, and his wife is not your responsibility.

Revenge is never good.

Just walk away, look after yourself and be thankful that it wasn’t worse (you didn’t get pg, lend him ££££, leave home and job to be near him etc).

Purplefoxes · 20/07/2022 13:35

And this is why so many men get away with being serial cheats because us women in 2022 still 'put up and shut up'. I would get the naked photos of the fucker and anything else incriminating preferably that doesn't involve you and put in an inconspicuous bills type envelope typed with her name. Would then post it to their house making sure everything as anonymous as can be. Then I'd leave it at that. He will know but she won't. Why should you feel scared of this idiot. He is a doctor if he is caught threatening you he will be struck off! He already thinks you have told her anyway so clearly she has partially caught him out but I bet without hard evidence he has wheedled his way back. It's time this one stopped fucking over women's lives and got a taste of his own medicine.

Heatstrokeunsteady · 20/07/2022 13:37

Tell her. I would not knowing the truth. Not to mention STDS etc.

zafferana · 20/07/2022 13:37

Pandaparty · 20/07/2022 12:45

you blundered on and on with this toxic relationship for two years!

First date was Sept 2021 and relationship ended at start of June so more like 9 months, thankfully.

Sorry - I got distracted by the mention of 2020.

NightsinBlueSatin · 20/07/2022 13:57

This man is too dangerous and unstable. You need to disappear, she'll find out soon enough or maybe she already knows.

Oyoyo · 20/07/2022 14:06

It may be hard to hear OP, but you were over-involved from the start, and so ignored all the red flags. No shame in that necessarily m, but please wake up! You are still over-involved if you are focusing on “telling the wife”. She’s set up with a mental husband but probably enjoying the fruits of his salary and lifestyle! Are you? For goodness sake. Just get the hell out of there! Try to think of it as a ‘maturing’ exercise for you. Its sad 😕but that’s also what it probably is.

mrssunshinexxx · 20/07/2022 14:28

I'd want to know

ThreeLocusts · 20/07/2022 14:58

Really really difficult to decide what to do. I'd not be comfortable saying he is too dangerous to tell on - if he is dangerous, his wife really needs to know that and while she may have all sorts of inklings, she is very unlikely to know the extent of it.

But you sound like you need to focus on yourself first and aren't in the right place to take on the possible consequences of bursting his bubble. So I second the pp who said do nothing now but be careful to preserve evidence. Once you've moved on, you'll hopefully be in a better position to address this issue. Give yourself time.

Bookworm20 · 20/07/2022 15:43

I honestly can't beleive the number of people saying don't say anything, just to leave it.

I mean, the man is scum. It wasn't a one night stand, he concocted a whole other life to dupe you. And you beleived him, so most likely she believes him too. He is very good at it. And this woman is possibly undergoing fertility treatment to have a baby with someone who she thinks is the love of her life and he is completely deceiving her.

Of course you owe her nothing, you don't know her. But think about it.

So what if there is drama. HE caused it. you have tons of evidence. of course she will be devestated. But I know for a fact that if I were her, and this was going on I would want to know.

OP, you know something that could potentially save this woman from years of deception and pain. Because she will find out sooner or later. What if its 5 years down the line and they have a child? She has zero choice at the moment as she doesn't know.

I couldn't live with myself if I knew something like this and buried my head in the sand, just because I didn't want the drama or was worried about my pets.

If you are really worried he would do something violent, then try and get to meet up with her under the guise of something else, and then tell her you are worried for your safety, but you need to let her know xyz.

WeeOrcadian · 20/07/2022 16:13

I'd absolutely tell her - would you want to be the wife if the boot was on the other foot? Sure as shit I wouldn't. I'd want to.know that my cockwomble of a 'D'H was getting his dick wet somewhere else.

Would it hurt? Damn straight it would, obviously. Do I deserve to know? One million percent I do.

Cornflakegirll · 20/07/2022 22:12

Couldn’t agree more @Purplefoxes well said!

Mem will continue to cause serious harm to their wives while so many turn blind eyes because it’s ‘none of our business’. Argh!!!

Cornflakegirll · 20/07/2022 22:12

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