Do you believe in law of attraction/thoughts create your reality?

[raincheckrosemary]

Do you believe you manifest everything, so for example a lot of it says you choose your romantic partner and attract that cause of your thoughts - what do you think?

do you think you create every bad thing that happens to you?

I feel so much for you getting caught in such a spiral. That's how insidious the LoA nonsense is. For me it was money and trying to manifest better finances while spending as though the windfall had already arrived, because OF COURSE the Universe would deliver. Ended up in debt.

This happened to me too - I would spend, spend, spend and ended up in debt all because I thought it would come to me!

Have you tried CBT for your anxiety?

@Robin233 its something I’m going to look into. I’m just not sure it’ll help with my OCD.

@raincheckrosemary yes I thought he thought I was an idiot and a stalker so I just stopped. That's when I just gave up with this stuff and relied on myself.

Yes, I do believe it but not because I think if you ask the universe will deliver.

If you have a more positive mindset it makes sense that you will be more confident and proactive in your life which will elicit more positive outcomes.

Opportunities are all around us all the time. But you have to he in the right frame of mind to see them and take advantage of them 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nope. The universe doesn't give a shit about your thoughts or feelings.

Headology 😉

Imagination is a really powerful tool for figuring out what goals we want to aim for. And if you believe that it is possible, even inevitable, you are more likely to invest your time in achieving it and look for those opportunities that move you forward.

It's like people who believe they are lucky are more likely to put themselves out there and create the opportunities to make it happen. And they are more likely to take a Pollyannaish perspective on events others perceive negatively.

E.g. if you have a life threatening experience do you perceive yourself as lucky to have survived or unlucky to have almost died?

I think this stuff works or appears to work because of psychology and people taking action rather than magic. And whilst I would say that we know worry and stress isn't great for our physical health so it's good to work on lowering your anxiety, I don't think you need to be afraid that you are making specific unlikely things happen in your life just because you have been ruminating upon them or having intrusive thoughts.

If the obsessing about a specific person resulting in a relationship thing was real then we'd all be slaves wouldn't we? No free will. Goodness knows how celebrities would manage to manage so many co-current relationships.

Someone manifesting a relationship with an ex that presumably ended for a reason seems a little unwise, and not that impressive - because it was something they had already achieved before?

Beware the person who denounces having a scarcity mindset about money who a minute later asks you for money for a course, there is a good chance they are more concerned about improving their finances than yours!

@ThirdThoughts yes, exactly! That's what that topic and coaches in it say. Nobody has "freewill and there are alternate realities" which absolutely terrifies me.

They sound like unscrupulous people op.

There's a whole load of websites and forums dedicated to "get your ex back" it's crazy.

There is very well established evidence of the physical health impacts of stress, trauma, loneliness etc.

But this is very different from what posters have said Hay is saying. She is saying that specific emotions, such as deep hurt or resentment, cause cancer. With other emotions causing other illness. She seems to be strongly implying that people cause their cancer by choosing to hold onto these hurts and resentments. In reality, the causes of cancer are multiple and varied, with genetic predisposition, weight, diet, activity, sun exposure, smoking and so on all identified as contributors to different cancers. And people often cannot ‘choose’ their reactions to trauma, particularly adverse childhood experiences, with these in particular often being more akin to a brain injury than a behavioural issue.
So yes, Hays is simplistic, ignorant and offensive in her analysis. The best snake oil merchants use a bit of scientific sounding stuff to try to give credence to their pay-per-view nonsense. But they haven’t understood the science and use it only as a marketing tool, rather than forming their theory from the science.

@MsEverywhere I really don't see the point you and others have made about LoA or Louise Hay blaming people for their reactions or ill health. I just don't. I don't like the Secret but that's because I don't believe in doing shit like writing blank checks and waiting for money to come. Louise Hay doesn't blame you, have you actually read a book of hers or listened to her?

Lot's of things LH or others like her in the 80s were saying about letting go of resentment for better health are things that western medicine have only recently been saying. For me, I liked realising that I am in control of my throughts and emotions, that I can change my day by the way I react to things. That my emotions don't need to overwhelm me. It did help me when I was very sad.

I don't think I've read of listened to anything blaming someone for getting cancer because they are sad/resentful etc. Or expecting you to create a reality where your parent/spouse/child doesn't die. The changing your reality is about changing your thoughts around something. It's a woo version of western therapy. Whatever floats someone's boat IMO. LoA is no different to Tai Chi and being in your Shen or your flow, just another way to explain something. And everyone makes money on the way they explain something, be that Western psychology or Eastern practices or Louise Hay.

@SnowWhitesSM
Agree.
I started reading louise hay nearly 27 years ago.
Ti me the secret just seemed to be about money.
I progressed on to Abraham Hicks about 15 years ago. and weather true or not find the recording very uplifting.

It's one thing being in control of your emotions – I agree, that can only be a positive thing. But LLH is saying with her list of ailments that it's very much the individual who is responsible for manifesting illness by holding onto rotten ones. I honestly don't think I'm misinterpreting the ethos behind it. Again, I wonder how the parents of children with Cystic Fibrosis feeling about her statement that them having it is down to a "poor me" attitude. Or people bringing on MS by being "inflexible". It's horrible and frankly indefensible.

I don't believe in her list of health conditions or causes. But she was on the ball way before Western medicine caught up with mental health being linked to physical health. I don't read the list as blaming. I read it as that's her belief. I don't believe my sciatica is caused by me being a hypocrite, I don't feel that she's blaming me for my sciatica either. Her affirmations for health aren't that different than the curable app - which is a Western research based app for curable pain - the app is a writing, meditation, brain training and education app, with positive affirmations.

There are quacks in all sorts of practices, chiropractors are a good example of a Western quack. We also discover or rediscover new things that work and things that science has now disproved all the time. Prozac was thought to be the cure for depression and anxiety and now they've gone to meditation, yoga, dance and feeling your feelings and accepting them for best practice, alongside EDMR. So more Eastern practices that were poo pooed by Western medicine than before. GPs are now being asked to not just give antidepressants but refer to talking therapies first.

So no, I'm not saying people bring ill health and disabilities on themselves, but I do believe that the way we learn to deal with stress can create better health outcomes and longevity of life and Western medicine hasn't helped us as a society deal with poor MH.

Also the way Buddhism for example, explains disabilities. Simplifying it, Buddhism says children born with disabilities is their karma for a previous life. It sounds cold as fuck to say that! But if you live in a Buddhist society they're much more accepting of the disability and are happy. So Louise Hay's list isn't really that different to a well established religion's thoughts on the matter. I don't believe in past lives or karma, I don't believe in LHs list. But I don't see it as blaming either. I don't know if it's something others are getting but I'm not, I just don't feel reactive to the list, even when it describes my own ailments.

@SnowWhitesSM You sound like Glenn Hoddle.

@SnowWhitesSM
Very well put.
I see stuff in main stream places that 27 year ago seemed quite woo.
But thought create actions.
I think I can get this job - apply and turn up at interview.
As apposed to.
I'll never get that job - doesn't even apply for it.

Thanks @Robin233

OP, I recommend Woo Wei Wisdom and his advice on following the golden thread of your thought. You keep asking yourself why you feel a 'red light feeling' and you get to the bottom of it and work out your core belief about yourself. He also does nice self love meditations. He is a trained therapist and also studied with the woo wei monks in China. So when you have an intrusive thought that makes you feel anxious, his golden thread approach of naming feelings as red or green and working through the feeling could be helpful to you. For me it works much better than CBT on training your brain. You create every thought in your head, taking responsibility for that gives you your power back and you can then stop that thought.

No, or it implies the other way around- that people get ill through their own fault etc.

And none of us can control reality- only what little we can do through our actions.

I've known people who believe in stuff like this, and they can feel they've failed when something bad happens to them.

I have found that there are two types of people. Those who research and question and those who blindly accept a plausible explanation and believe.
Take religion, the human brain needs to know “why”. Ancient man had no idea how the world came to be but some clever people came up with a good story that seem to fit the evidence they had at the time and used it to build a powerful ruling religion that if you question any of beliefs you were thrown out or killed. Survival depended on being part of a large family or tribe so if you had doubts you either kept quiet or became an ex tribe member. What is bazaar is the bible, for example, is full of stories about outliers. Most other regions have a back story of someone questioning the ancient beliefs and creating their own religion.
I suspect it is part of our genetic makeup to follow a charismatic character who promises a better life. Those amongst us who are genetic cynics are no longer burnt at the stake but continue to be thorns in the side of the charismatic charlatans that continue to cast a spell of those genetically susceptible to bullshit.

Of - over

Most bubbly happy people I know deep down don't give a damn and are quite selfish but not in a poisonous way . They don't harm others . They are also good at avoiding toxic people / situations and delegating responsibility . If it doesn't concern then or impact on them they don't care . In short care less don't overthink .

I wish I was like this so badly!