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Do you believe in law of attraction/thoughts create your reality?

137 replies

raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 15:58

Do you believe you manifest everything, so for example a lot of it says you choose your romantic partner and attract that cause of your thoughts - what do you think?

do you think you create every bad thing that happens to you?

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Wor · 29/05/2022 17:44

No. Generally I find that rich successful people are attracted to this idea and people who live in places like Syria and Ukraine know that it is a load of bollocks.

DaftyLass · 29/05/2022 17:46

Who manifests the childhood cancers?
Who manifests a drunk driver hitting you on your way home from work?
It's not real.

Be aware of what is going on, look for the good to appreciate it, be aware the bad can happen, and you will be fine

Cool Cathy · 29/05/2022 17:50

Yes

Wartywart · 29/05/2022 17:55

Yes to a certain extent. I went on a snowboarding holiday hundreds of years ago, and I remember the instructor telling me that if I wanted to go in a certain direction, all I had to do was look that way. No moving of my body, nothing - just look that way. And it worked.

With hindsight, obviously the 'looking' made a very slight pressure change in my feet, or made me slightly lean that way or something - a really subtle shift - but I think this is kind of how the law of attraction works.

ouch321 · 29/05/2022 18:09

No, I find it as cringy as a grown adult still thinking Father Xmas is real..
It's all made up crap made to sell books and courses.

Left · 29/05/2022 18:17

No.

Maybe there is some value to using some of the techniques, like using vision boards to help work towards goals, but as a belief system it is toxic positivity fuelled nonsense.

WakeWaterWalk · 29/05/2022 18:18

No.
However I would say "you have to be in it to win it."

WakeWaterWalk · 29/05/2022 18:25

Op your own anxiety is telling you quite rightly to run a mile from these people and their ideas.
They aren't helping you so drop them!

WhoWants2Know · 29/05/2022 18:58

I think a person's mindset can heavily influence their perception of life events.

There are some events in life that are objectively tragic or heartwarming, but the majority of everyday life is full of events that fall somewhere in between. To some extent, we can decide how we see those events. When it's raining, some people see the weather is miserable and others see much needed nourishment for plants.

So basically, if you feel like good things are going to happen, you will be on the lookout for the good side of events and see them when they happen

Mytoddlerisamazing · 29/05/2022 18:58

No

raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 18:59

BertieBotts · 29/05/2022 17:10

No no no no no. Please do NOT get into this stuff if you're predisposed towards anxiety. The fear about "accidentally" creating bad things with your thoughts is terrible and can really trap you in a very unhealthy, dangerous place.

Your mind is a perfect safe space to imagine whatever you like as freely as you want. Use it to imagine wonderful things - and then use actions in real life to make those things come about. Use it to imagine terrible happenings, perfectly safe in the knowledge that your thoughts have absolutely zero influence on whether those things happen or not.

Thoughts cannot affect reality. There is absolutely no way this could happen. People sharing stories of it "working" are experiencing confirmation bias, that is all.

Thank you so much for this. I have been anxious about a specific thing happening for weeks, and when I got over the anxiety, I have seriously been trapped in “well I worried for 4 weeks so it’s bound to happen now” despite it not being realistic in the slightest. I have made myself so unwell, been distant in my relationship and just overall a mess. I’ve been trying to Google my way out of it and all I read is it can happen, and it’s been awful.

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raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 19:03

WakeWaterWalk · 29/05/2022 18:25

Op your own anxiety is telling you quite rightly to run a mile from these people and their ideas.
They aren't helping you so drop them!

I think I’m going to! I have a friend I told my worry to and she’s very heavily into it and trying to manifest her ex back, and she told me “you need to stop because you’ll create it/make it happen” and I just felt so awful since.

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DatingDinosaur · 29/05/2022 19:54

Manifesting group? Sounds like you’re being brainwashed by a cult @raincheckrosemary

I like the pp’s analogy of it being a sort of vision board – to help clarify what you want in life so you can work out ways to proactively achieve those things.
So why would you create a vision board of misery and angst to concentrate on?

raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 19:57

DatingDinosaur · 29/05/2022 19:54

Manifesting group? Sounds like you’re being brainwashed by a cult @raincheckrosemary

I like the pp’s analogy of it being a sort of vision board – to help clarify what you want in life so you can work out ways to proactively achieve those things.
So why would you create a vision board of misery and angst to concentrate on?

I went through a really bad breakup last year and was in an awful place, when I came across Law of Attraction. It's basically what you assume, will be. I didn't get it at first and I legitimately thought it was BS until I started doing the affirmations and techniques to change your thoughts etc. People in the group manifest people, like exes back or their dream partner or whatever.

I actually did end up getting back with my ex at the time (now partner), got a promotion, better friend group etc. But now that I am struggling with something, I am in this awful and vicious circle of constant 24/7 worrying that because I've had crippling anxiety about something happening (which won't), that it will materialise. And now looking back on LOA, I can see all those things happened cause I went for them, I didn't "manifest" them at all!

So I agree - it's a cult, mild, but still very cultish.

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raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 19:58

Meant to say Law of Assumption!

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Gooniez · 29/05/2022 20:18

I don't believe in manifesting.

I do however believe that
'My beliefs create my reality'.

Depending on our childhood we end up with a set of core beliefs that, in simple terms, say

I am good, lovable and have agency to get my needs met
or
I am worthless, unlovable and I am incapable of getting my needs met.

If you have the latter set of beliefs you will attract people who will treat you badly because that's what you believe you deserve ... and vice versa.

People think they know what their core beliefs are but I suspect the majority of people don't actually know.

The best way to identify your core beliefs is to listen to your inner voice.

However changing your core beliefs can take years or even decades.

broccolicheese · 29/05/2022 20:48

No, absolutely not. I find it a bit triggering to be honest, when people shill it. I love the answer from PP about your mind should be a safe space.

I think another way to think of manifesting is just setting a goal and working towards it which is perfectly okay. But you’re going to get to the goal because of the work you put into achieve it, its not just going to magically land on your doorstep because you think it.

Gooniez · 29/05/2022 20:51

I don't believe in manifesting.

I do however believe that

'My beliefs create my reality'.

Depending on our childhood we end up with a set of core beliefs that, in simple terms, say
I am good, lovable and have agency to get my needs met
or
I am worthless, unlovable and I am incapable of getting my needs met.

If you have the latter set of beliefs you will attract people who will treat you badly because that's what you believe you deserve ... and vice versa.

People think they know what their core beliefs are but I suspect the majority of people don't actually know.

The best way to identify your core beliefs is to listen to your inner voice.

However changing your core beliefs can take years or even decades.

raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 21:26

broccolicheese · 29/05/2022 20:48

No, absolutely not. I find it a bit triggering to be honest, when people shill it. I love the answer from PP about your mind should be a safe space.

I think another way to think of manifesting is just setting a goal and working towards it which is perfectly okay. But you’re going to get to the goal because of the work you put into achieve it, its not just going to magically land on your doorstep because you think it.

Do you think you can manifest people? I’ve been down a rabbit hole where you can manifest people thinking of you, and they can only treat you how you assume they will. It’s so damaging.

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ClumpingBambooIsALie · 29/05/2022 21:37

Nobody has special magic mind powers. If special magic mind powers existed, there'd be accredited assessments and qualifications, and those with the strongest magic mind powers would be in the pay of the powers that be. The fact that most of the people who say they have special magic mind powers are either con-men selling the ability to gain special magic mind powers, or vulnerable people who don't have a better avenue to success, is testament to that.

Sure, for some people it can be a useful metaphor for a productive way of approaching the world and themselves, but it's no more than that.

Nobody can manifest people. If they could, Osama bin Laden would've been found a lot quicker.

raincheckrosemary · 29/05/2022 21:41

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 29/05/2022 21:37

Nobody has special magic mind powers. If special magic mind powers existed, there'd be accredited assessments and qualifications, and those with the strongest magic mind powers would be in the pay of the powers that be. The fact that most of the people who say they have special magic mind powers are either con-men selling the ability to gain special magic mind powers, or vulnerable people who don't have a better avenue to success, is testament to that.

Sure, for some people it can be a useful metaphor for a productive way of approaching the world and themselves, but it's no more than that.

Nobody can manifest people. If they could, Osama bin Laden would've been found a lot quicker.

I’d be really interested to hear what you think then. There’s a whole topic of manifesting an “SP” - specific person. People do it for people they have been with before (exes), people they have a crush on etc. They affirm over and over that they are already together and just do crazy things similar and weirdly.. there are success stories?!

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ClumpingBambooIsALie · 29/05/2022 21:49

What I think… I think magic doesn't exist and there are any number of reasons why these people might believe they've done magic with their minds. Or say that they believe so.

You are no more going to cause bad things to happen simply by having thought of them than they are going to be able to make people appear and behave in a certain way just by thinking about it. Seriously, if this were possible the CIA wouldn't bother with all the expensive stuff. It's all just the results of their actions, coincidences, confirmation bias, and other logical fallacies. You're totally safe from your mind bringing bad things on you.

Hariboqueen1 · 29/05/2022 21:55

I do believe it. But I struggle to use it in my life as I suffer anxiety. I see evidence of it working in small things such as board games. Sometimes I just know that I’m going to win and I know exactly what my dice is going to be before Ive rolled it. It’s a different feeling to hoping. I know when I’m going to lose as well. before I start playing. I can’t choose if I win or lose I already know the outcome it’s strange. I tried to replicate the feeling into playing the lottery, I didn’t win the jackpot but my millionaires code was one digit out. I tried to know what the millionaires code was. Deep down I do believe it but using it to create a life I just don’t know how!

coodawoodashooda · 29/05/2022 21:58

A bit.

DatingDinosaur · 29/05/2022 22:11

Yes, there’s a difference between “just knowing” and actively trying to manifest something by consciously thinking about it.

I’ve just known things – it’s like being in a daydream state. I can’t control what it is, I just know – a thought that wafted through my head, it just happens.

When I’m on the train I’ll daydream out of the window and I might see something that makes me think of a friend I’ve not heard from for a while so I’ll think about getting in touch after work that night and lo and behold, a message from her on the answerphone when I get in.

I’ve bought a scratch card on a whim (not in the habit of buying them). Just had a feeling when stood at the checkout. Won £20.

So, just a feeling. Not a conscious thought process.

God that’s really hard to explain the difference, lol.